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2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added

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If Bulls keep the pick, who should they select?

Jalen Williams
7
11%
Tari Eason
18
29%
Nikola Jovic
4
6%
Mark Williams
18
29%
Ochai Agbaji
1
2%
TyTy Washington
0
No votes
Ousmane Dieng
0
No votes
Malaki Branham
2
3%
EJ Liddell
8
13%
Jeremy Sochan
4
6%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added 

Post#1361 » by SfBull » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:34 pm

Wingy wrote:Prediction: I don’t know what we’ll do w/the pick, but I’m thinking Eason will be available, we’ll pass, half the board will melt down, and years later, it won’t matter.

Not sure if Tari Eason will be available at 18,his ceiling can be high,needs a lot of work on some aspects of his game but still a very interesting player who would help us a lot.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pic: Poll added 

Post#1362 » by SfBull » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:41 pm

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Post#1363 » by Bullbleep » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:57 pm

My guessessment:

50% stay with #18
5% move up (unlikely, almost nothing to move up with...)
30% move down
15% trade for a current player (Bulls need 1st nba contract guys at this point, not overpriced veterans...)
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Post#1364 » by sco » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:03 pm

5 hours to go! More like 6.5 til #18, but still.
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Post#1365 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:15 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:
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I'm sorry, did you really just attempt to state that a 3 time all NBA star player cannot teach a younger player basketball skill related things?
Don't apologize.

DDR is a dinosaur. Maybe Kareem can come back and teach them all the sky hook.

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What? Kareem's skyhook would still be unstoppable today. Way to double down....
Yes. Because he was elite at it. Kareem shooting the skyhook would still be great. Anyone else, not so great. Or they would be doing it.

DDR is all world in midrange efficiency. That doesn't mean anyone else can be, or they would all be doing it.

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Post#1366 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:15 pm

sco wrote:5 hours to go! More like 6.5 til #18, but still.

5 hours until coverage starts, 6 hours until draft starts, 7.5 until pick #18. :wink:
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Post#1367 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:17 pm

Stratmaster wrote:
_txchilibowl_ wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:Don't apologize.

DDR is a dinosaur. Maybe Kareem can come back and teach them all the sky hook.

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What? Kareem's skyhook would still be unstoppable today. Way to double down....
Yes. Because he was elite at it. Kareem shooting the skyhook would still be great. Anyone else, not so great. Or they would be doing it.

DDR is all world in midrange efficiency. That doesn't mean anyone else can be, or they would all be doing it.

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That's a really simplistic viewpoint. DDR can teach those kids how to prepare and live as professionals. He can teach them how to get to their spots. He can teach them his offseason conditioning workout.

Just because DDR is great at midrange, doesn't mean that's all he has learned in his long NBA career.
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Post#1368 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:20 pm

I've been too busy to do a deep dive of the draft this year, but Eason is my pick if he's available. Could also see Jovic being our guy.
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Re: 2022 Draft Prospects Thread :Bulls get 18th pick 

Post#1369 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:25 pm

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_txchilibowl_ wrote:

What? Kareem's skyhook would still be unstoppable today. Way to double down....
Yes. Because he was elite at it. Kareem shooting the skyhook would still be great. Anyone else, not so great. Or they would be doing it.

DDR is all world in midrange efficiency. That doesn't mean anyone else can be, or they would all be doing it.

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That's a really simplistic viewpoint. DDR can teach those kids how to prepare and live as professionals. He can teach them how to get to their spots. He can teach them his offseason conditioning workout.

Just because DDR is great at midrange, doesn't mean that's all he has learned in his long NBA career.
I already acknowledged he can help with basic professionalism, what to expect in the NBA. Just like any other vet can.

He can teach them how to get to his spots. Not necessarily their spots. I'm not sure that is much of a service since the success he has at his style of play makes him somewhat of a unicorn in today's NBA.

The discussion was about Branham. Drafting him and having him work out with DDR Everything I read about him says his level of success will likely depend on if his 3 point shooting translates. Is DDR the guy you want helping with that?

I'm not saying DDR'S wisdom wouldn't be helpful or that if the Bulls draft him he shouldn't do that. But DDR is being looked at as a guy who is going to help develop all the young players. I don't see him as being any better for them than any other vet player. Maybe even less so.

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Post#1370 » by HoopsterJones » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:29 pm

Lakers acquired the Magic’s 35th pick for a future SRP and cash considerations. Man I wanted the Bulls to do the same exact thing.
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Post#1371 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:32 pm

Stratmaster wrote:
mlitney01 wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:Yes. Because he was elite at it. Kareem shooting the skyhook would still be great. Anyone else, not so great. Or they would be doing it.

DDR is all world in midrange efficiency. That doesn't mean anyone else can be, or they would all be doing it.

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That's a really simplistic viewpoint. DDR can teach those kids how to prepare and live as professionals. He can teach them how to get to their spots. He can teach them his offseason conditioning workout.

Just because DDR is great at midrange, doesn't mean that's all he has learned in his long NBA career.
I already acknowledged he can help with basic professionalism, what to expect in the NBA. Just like any other vet can.

He can teach them how to get to his spots. Not necessarily their spots. I'm not sure that is much of a service since the success he has at his style of play makes him somewhat of a unicorn in today's NBA.

The discussion was about Branham. Drafting him and having him work out with DDR Everything I read about him says his level of success will likely depend on if his 3 point shooting translates. Is DDR the guy you want helping with that?

I'm not saying DDR'S wisdom wouldn't be helpful or that if the Bulls draft him he shouldn't do that. But DDR is being looked at as a guy who is going to help develop all the young players. I don't see him as being any better for them than any other vet player. Maybe even less so.

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Yeah, I guess that's fair. But I also don't see many vets escorting a rookie to a college ceremony (Ayo's jersey retirement). Or inviting several young players to work out with him over the summer. Maybe DDR is more likely to take a young guy under his wing than just about ANY other vet.
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Post#1372 » by ChettheJet » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:39 pm

for some perspective on how important the lottery picks are read, yeah read the first part of this article


https://www.nba.com/bulls/news/sam-smiths-final-2022-nba-mock-draft?fbclid=IwAR0F_PZaaAW4oWmdlM46JOr_lB51Sb8Fz4l6fSAXhdQ0CHsKVtFBGvcSrMk

It's far from an exact science and virtually all of the experts throwing stats and comparisons and fit and everything else around,

they're wrong
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Post#1373 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:54 pm

With Tari, I'd say the focus for his development will be 3 things. He'll need to continue improving at his 3pt shot. He'll need to get way better at using his offhand and going left. And he'll need to get better with finishing strong and not avoiding contact. Honestly if he can do this, I see high level starter in his future.
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Post#1374 » by GoBlue72391 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm

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GoBlue72391 wrote:What a relief it is to not have to follow the draft prospects so closely this year.

No comprende

At the time I said that we were 8-3 and 1st in the Eastern Conference. I meant it partially in a joking manner, basically saying "Hey, we're actually good for once and we no longer have to micro-analyze every top 7 draft prospect since we won't be picking in the lottery for once."
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Post#1375 » by drosestruts » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:21 pm

Dresden wrote:
HoopsterJones wrote:
drosestruts wrote:If we keep 18 - I want Jovic, and I'd stash him for a year.

Would love to trade back with Memphis for their two 1sts, if Jovic is still available when they pick. Stick to the stash Jovic plan, and take someone else with 29.


I would say a draft and stash strategy isn’t ideal either considering the current roster as constructed. The window to compete for a title is short with DDR being under contract for 2 more years and him being 33 years old. Ideally the Bulls attempt to use this pick to improve the team with a win now approach.


I agree, that's why I"m not high on Dieng or Jovic. Both guys seem like they are 3-4 years away from being contributors.


It's funny because this is exactly why I want to target a draft and stash candidate. In my view, a vet min player will be more beneficial to this team than a rookie, any rookie, we could take at 18.

We've got 10 guys under contract, I'd like to keep Zach and DJJ. After that, which brings us to 12. A player or two with the tax-pater MLE and 1-2 vet min contracts are needed more than someone at 18.

People rally like Liddell and he may be good. But in 2022-23, Thad Young, Batum, Milsap, Griffin, and others - I think would all provide more.
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Post#1376 » by dawhizz » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:25 pm

Last minute check-in:

Guys I like: Williams (both), Eason, Branham
Guys I’d be fine with: Jovic, Liddell, Agbaji
Not really interested but I’m sure I’d talk myself into them: Griffin, Wesley, Duran, Beauchamp, Sochan
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Post#1377 » by DuckIII » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:34 pm

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Post#1378 » by _txchilibowl_ » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:43 pm

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BigUps wrote:Whoever it is tonight, just assure me Bulls fans that despite your opinion of the player before we draft them that we'll all get behind them once they join our club. They need our support to reach their potential!


Always do. Unless they end up proving my skepticism right. I was throwing tantrums when we drafted Kirk and Taj both. Each went on to become two of my absolute favorite Bulls ever.



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Post#1379 » by ImSlower » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:49 pm

I generally expect the Bulls to trade the pick, but I have a mild personal bias hoping the Bulls draft EJ Liddell. He led a rival high school to two state championships, and my coworker just told me yesterday that his cousin grew up with EJ and they still keep in touch. Told him he needs to get that cousin to bring Liddell to the restaurant we work at once he gets that bag.

Two hours left! I wonder if Woj has spent more than five minutes today not on his phone.
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Post#1380 » by Dresden » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:41 pm

ChettheJet wrote:for some perspective on how important the lottery picks are read, yeah read the first part of this article


https://www.nba.com/bulls/news/sam-smiths-final-2022-nba-mock-draft?fbclid=IwAR0F_PZaaAW4oWmdlM46JOr_lB51Sb8Fz4l6fSAXhdQ0CHsKVtFBGvcSrMk

It's far from an exact science and virtually all of the experts throwing stats and comparisons and fit and everything else around,

they're wrong


I always like Sam's take on things. He's like the Mike Royko of Chicago basketball journalism.

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