2022 NBA Draft Open Thread

[psman2]

Memphis apparently trying to move into the lottery per Kevin O Conner, says they are looking at the Knicks.

Brooks, 23, 29 for Fournier, 11? Completed after the draft with space from MEM.

Please… #11 can bring a star…

I think that deal is a bit too rich for Memphis. I think you are looking at like 22, 29, future 2nd for 11 and two of Burks/Noel/Kemba. I don't think we give up Brooks on top of all that though a Brooks inclusion is very possible in whatever version does potentially happen just because the Knicks have asked about him the last couple offseasons and clearly like him.

I don't think Memphis is going to use cap space in a move like this, not worth giving up MLE and bird rights on Jones/Anderson. So we would have to use matching salary and try to balance the value. So Fournier/11 for Brooks/?..... Is 22 too much, is 29 too little?

IMO NY should just stay at 11 and not worry about clearing money at this point unless they have a firm yes from a FA target.

[Devilanche]

Portland.

A kyrie /dame backcourt?

My bad, I thought you were talking about KD as he will leave if Kyrie does.

Hart/Gordon/filler/ #7 + a few future 1sts is a pretty damn solid package for KD that would be hard to beat by any team KD could be traded and immediately contend on.

Not a bad offer . Could see how my reply could meant KD ring chasing though but it’s more of kyrie getting paid .

[zimpy27]

Why don't Knicks give Fournier, Cam and 11 to OKC?

That opens $27m capspace for them.

In return they get future picks. Maybe WAS23FRP and DEN23FRP. They'd have 4 FRPs next season.

[K_chile22]

Rockets got the Brooklyn picks until 2027...that's pretty sweet.

Bunch of late picks worth nothing I was told by some

[Dadouv47]

Why don't Knicks give Fournier, Cam and 11 to OKC?

That opens $27m capspace for them.

In return they get future picks. Maybe WAS23FRP and DEN23FRP.

I would love that.

[Devilanche]

Why don't Knicks give Fournier, Cam and 11 to OKC?

That opens $27m capspace for them.

In return they get future picks. Maybe WAS23FRP and DEN23FRP.

Presti probably not willing give up future first .

I’m not sure it’s a good idea for Knicks to use 11 to dump salary though instead of a future first … other than they not counting 11 salary cap hold into free agency as well.

[zimpy27]

Why don't Knicks give Fournier, Cam and 11 to OKC?

That opens $27m capspace for them.

In return they get future picks. Maybe WAS23FRP and DEN23FRP.

Presti probably not willing give up future first .

I’m not sure it’s a good idea for Knicks to use 11 to dump salary though instead of a future first … other than they not counting 11 salary cap hold into free agency as well.

Well the #11 is probably not going to be an amazing talent. That $5m salary for 11 will matter.

Knicks will also have $34m expirings with Rose, Burks, Noel. And they have 4 FRPs in 2023. Could see them being able to make a decent midseason trade too.

[Texas Chuck]

Rockets got the Brooklyn picks until 2027...that's pretty sweet.

Bunch of late picks worth nothing I was told by some

One of my biggest pet peeves..... A big part of picks values, especially unprotected picks is their upwards variance, a variance that only increases as they are pushed out.

Trades would never happen if these picks were protected top 20. Team know they are taking a major risk trading a superstar player for lottery tickets, but they do so because you can win the lottery.

IF you want to value a pick in the 20's years before it conveys, then top 20 protect it. Otherwise just stop.

[Devilanche]

Why don't Knicks give Fournier, Cam and 11 to OKC?

That opens $27m capspace for them.

In return they get future picks. Maybe WAS23FRP and DEN23FRP.

Presti probably not willing give up future first .

I’m not sure it’s a good idea for Knicks to use 11 to dump salary though instead of a future first … other than they not counting 11 salary cap hold into free agency as well.

Well the #11 is probably not going to be an amazing talent. That $5m salary for 11 will matter.

Knicks will also have $34m expirings with Rose, Burks, Noel. And they have 4 FRPs in 2023. Could see them being able to make a decent midseason trade too.

Yes but we seen team paying upfront to dump capspace and then get desperate when option A, B and C sign elsewhere . Why not use future picks to dump salary when option D agree to sign with them. More so when they can evaluate if the cost at that point still worth it for signing option D

[amcoolio]

Not much info leaking out hours before the draft, I would expect it to be busy right now

[Scoot McGroot]

Not much info leaking out hours before the draft, I would expect it to be busy right now

Probably final meals, naps, and loading up on coffee right now

[MoneyTalks41890]

Not much info leaking out hours before the draft, I would expect it to be busy right now

I'm taking that as a sign that things are actually happening and there's less time to float spin.

[DoItALL9]

Kyrie and KD for CP3, Bridges, and Ayton plus today's pick

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[Texas Chuck]

Not much info leaking out hours before the draft, I would expect it to be busy right now

I'm taking that as a sign that things are actually happening and there's less time to float spin.

For Dallas, I'm taking it as business as usual on draft night. Just need an intern around for the Wood trade call when its their turn in the queue.....

[amcoolio]

"Detroit Pistons GM Troy Weaver is one of Duren's biggest fans in the NBA, sources say, and could very well look to target him in a draft night trade if he continued to slide down the board, especially to Charlotte, which has been identified as a possible trading partner for the Pistons in a potential Gordon Hayward deal."

If we completely offload Hayward (assuming Duren falls to 13) to Detroit for nothing but pure cap space, do we have enough space to offer Ayton a max? Then just match any offer Miles gets and build around a core of LaMelo/Miles/Ayton

[MoneyTalks41890]

"Detroit Pistons GM Troy Weaver is one of Duren's biggest fans in the NBA, sources say, and could very well look to target him in a draft night trade if he continued to slide down the board, especially to Charlotte, which has been identified as a possible trading partner for the Pistons in a potential Gordon Hayward deal."

If we completely offload Hayward (assuming Duren falls to 13) to Detroit for nothing but pure cap space, do we have enough space to offer Ayton a max? Then just match any offer Miles gets and build around a core of LaMelo/Miles/Ayton

Per Spotrac Charlotte is at 109 with 22-23 salaries and Batum dead salary. Waive all holds except Miles, which is 16m, and you’re at about 125m. Back off Hayward’s amount, 95m. Then add 4m for pick 15 and 5m for roster holds, and you’re at 104m. Unless I missed something I think Charlotte would need to dump Plumlee and at least the ung part of Oubre. Of course this also assumes that no one makes Bridges an offer first.

[HartfordWhalers]

"Detroit Pistons GM Troy Weaver is one of Duren's biggest fans in the NBA, sources say, and could very well look to target him in a draft night trade if he continued to slide down the board, especially to Charlotte, which has been identified as a possible trading partner for the Pistons in a potential Gordon Hayward deal."

If we completely offload Hayward (assuming Duren falls to 13) to Detroit for nothing but pure cap space, do we have enough space to offer Ayton a max? Then just match any offer Miles gets and build around a core of LaMelo/Miles/Ayton

Per Spotrac Charlotte is at 109 with 22-23 salaries and Batum dead salary. Waive all holds except Miles, which is 16m, and you’re at about 125m. Back off Hayward’s amount, 95m. Then add 4m for pick 15 and 5m for roster holds, and you’re at 104m. Unless I missed something I think Charlotte would need to dump Plumlee and at least the ung part of Oubre. Of course this also assumes that no one makes Bridges an offer first.

Sure, but what if Kyrie opted out and then signed for the vet min?

[Dadouv47]

GMs taking a very long nap.

Duren would be a very nice fit next to Cade...worth taking him if they aren't sure they can get Ayton.

[blind prophet]

Read on Twitter

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Not sure if anyone posted this.

I know nothing of this player, but I'm guessing this is someone the Kings want to bring over to play right now?

I doubt it. $1.5M in cash was included as well

So typical cash considerations. Maybe from a PR standpoint they got a player this time?

Happens every year.

[DNP-Old]

Is it too soon for a Dust Bowl nickname?

I heard someone propose the Thin Towers

Twin spires

I'm a little late to the party, but how about "Lightning Rods."