Magic Trade #35 for Future 2nd and Cash

[Howard Mass]

The Magic have traded one of their Second Round Picks (#35) for a future Second Round Pick and cash.

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-los-angeles-lakers-second-round-nba-draft-pick-20220623

I know a lot of people are ticked about this but I think The Magic were going to move one second round pick anyway.

It was more about getting the more favorable of The L.A. Lakers and Washington's 2028 second round picks as unprotected 2nds even if they are 6 years down the line have the most value.

Before anyone judges, let's see a few things.

1) Packages tonight by other teams that are used to trade into First Round.

2) What is the latest second round pick that is traded for a future second round pick as this varies. One year, Mid-30's pick was last one that got a team a future second while other years like 2020 when The Magic got the pick that turned out to be #35 AND a future 2nd.

3) What The Magic do with #32.

I know people want The Magic to use a second round pick tonight but The Magic were not going to bring in three draft picks to camp with all the youth on this team and limited roster spots depending on what free agents they bring back or sign in free agency.

Lay out your thoughts.

[Ducklett]

I think this is more about the fans and trust in the magic front office. Trades like this diminish that trust. If the org had more good will with the fanbase, no one would care about this, but the org has pissed away that good will with constant trades like this.

[Skin]

Are they not allowed to send these players to the G-League and develop them there? Isn't that what the G-League is designed for?

[bigdogdylan5]

Are they not allowed to send these players to the G-League and develop them there? Isn't that what the G-League is designed for?

Can someone please explain to me what happens if they are put in the Gleague like how does the contract work do they have to get one of the Two ways? I got reemed for not knowing that second rounders dont get guaranteed contracts anymore but how does that work? It makes more sense to me with the whole rights things for international picks is it the same?

[tiderulz]

The Magic have traded one of their Second Round Picks (#35) for a future Second Round Pick and cash.

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-los-angeles-lakers-second-round-nba-draft-pick-20220623

I know a lot of people are ticked about this but I think The Magic were going to move one second round pick anyway.

It was more about getting the more favorable of The L.A. Lakers and Washington's 2028 second round picks as unprotected 2nds even if they are 6 years down the line have the most value.

Before anyone judges, let's see a few things.

1) Packages tonight by other teams that are used to trade into First Round.

2) What is the latest second round pick that is traded for a future second round pick as this varies. One year, Mid-30's pick was last one that got a team a future second while other years like 2020 when The Magic got the pick that turned out to be #35 AND a future 2nd.

3) What The Magic do with #32.

I know people want The Magic to use a second round pick tonight but The Magic were not going to bring in three draft picks to camp with all the youth on this team and limited roster spots depending on what free agents they bring back or sign in free agency.

Lay out your thoughts.

why cant they wait until the draft. you never know who falls down and might be available. and the team isnt so brimming full of talent, that a good 2nd round player couldnt come in and push for a possible roster spot. Iggy, Cannady, Schofield are not that good that their roster spots should be 100% solid. and why cant we take them and send them to Lakeland? Gortat wasnt on the team his 1st year after ORlando got his rights.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I'm with you in terms of what they do at 32. There seems to be 76ers at 23 and GSW at 28 that don't want the guaranteed $ so those could be 2 spots for us. I will be interested to see if someone trades out what it costs and who moves in.

They need to either take someone at 32 or move up, anything other than those 2 and they've failed again

[p0peye]

What do you mean by draft-and-stash, is that even legal? There's good money to be made here.

[Howard Mass]

The Magic have traded one of their Second Round Picks (#35) for a future Second Round Pick and cash.

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-los-angeles-lakers-second-round-nba-draft-pick-20220623

I know a lot of people are ticked about this but I think The Magic were going to move one second round pick anyway.

It was more about getting the more favorable of The L.A. Lakers and Washington's 2028 second round picks as unprotected 2nds even if they are 6 years down the line have the most value.

Before anyone judges, let's see a few things.

1) Packages tonight by other teams that are used to trade into First Round.

2) What is the latest second round pick that is traded for a future second round pick as this varies. One year, Mid-30's pick was last one that got a team a future second while other years like 2020 when The Magic got the pick that turned out to be #35 AND a future 2nd.

3) What The Magic do with #32.

I know people want The Magic to use a second round pick tonight but The Magic were not going to bring in three draft picks to camp with all the youth on this team and limited roster spots depending on what free agents they bring back or sign in free agency.

Lay out your thoughts.

why cant they wait until the draft. you never know who falls down and might be available. and the team isnt so brimming full of talent, that a good 2nd round player couldnt come in and push for a possible roster spot. Iggy, Cannady, Schofield are not that good that their roster spots should be 100% solid. and why cant we take them and send them to Lakeland? Gortat wasnt on the team his 1st year after ORlando got his rights.

Maybe they got a better idea of the market for tonight at #35 and wanted to lock in a future 2nd before The Lakers made that deal with another team.

Like I said in the other thread, what happens at #32 along with other trades should help us judge this one better.

In the end, I want them to do something with #32 (Take someone or trade up, it could be more of a salary dump.)

[Howard Mass]

What do you mean by draft-and-stash, is that even legal? There's good money to be made here.

Sometimes teams have agreements with second round picks to sign outright with The G League Team so they keep their Draft Rights rather than risk having to cut or use a main roster spot on them.

[p0peye]

What do you mean by draft-and-stash, is that even legal? There's good money to be made here.

Sometimes teams have agreements with second round picks to sign outright with The G League Team so they keep their Draft Rights rather than risk having to cut or use a main roster spot on them.

Understood, my command of English still fails my good sense of humour.

[Howard Mass]

What do you mean by draft-and-stash, is that even legal? There's good money to be made here.

Sometimes teams have agreements with second round picks have agreements with second round picks to sign outright with The G League Team so they keep their Draft Rights rather than risk having to cut them or use a main roster spot on them.

Understood, my command of English still fails my good sense of humour.

My grammar sometimes sucks and also type too fast missing words. LOL!

Fixed.

[axl_c_cool]

Since the FO took over they haven't valued or used 2nd round picks, that's the problem. This just makes me worried they'll do something silly going into the draft now!

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[Howard Mass]

Since the FO took over they haven't valued or used 2nd round picks, that's the problem. This just makes me worried they'll do something silly going into the draft now!

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Let's see what happens with #32.

[p0peye]

Sometimes teams have agreements with second round picks have agreements with second round picks to sign outright with The G League Team so they keep their Draft Rights rather than risk having to cut them or use a main roster spot on them.

Understood, my command of English still fails my good sense of humour.

My grammar sometimes sucks and also type too fast missing words. LOL!

Fixed.

I was making a joke at Weltham expense for not doing draft-and-stash, which can mean keeping the player in Europe, G League or any other than NBA while keeping his draft rights. For instance, we could draft some nice 3&D wing such as Gabriele Procida and let him mature for a season or two before bringing him over.

Instead, we chose the money route yet again.

[KokoKaizer]

Understood, my command of English still fails my good sense of humour.

My grammar sometimes sucks and also type too fast missing words. LOL!

Fixed.

I was making a joke at Weltham expense for not doing draft-and-stash, which can mean keeping the player in Europe, G League or any other than NBA while keeping his draft rights. For instance, we could draft some nice 3&D wing such as Gabriele Procida and let him mature for a season or two before bringing him over.

Instead, we chose the money route yet again.

And again and again...

[Ducklett]

Since the FO took over they haven't valued or used 2nd round picks, that's the problem. This just makes me worried they'll do something silly going into the draft now!

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Let's see what happens with #32.

Well, we can't trade it for cash because WE MAXED OUT THE AMOUNT OF CASH CONSIDERSATIONS WE GOT THIS YEAR. What a joke.

I foresee us picking a player at 32 and trading that player immediately after for two future fake seconds.

At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if we traded 1 for 4 future seconds.

[Skin]

This tells me that packaging the picks with T-Ross to move up was not of interest to any other team in the NBA. T-Ross has little to no value.

This tells me that they are scared to be evaluated based on their second round selections and develop them in the G League.

This tells me that they value cash considerations more than taking a chance at developing talent.

This tells me they are soft. Ultimately, we will have a soft team. FIRE THEM NOW!

[Mauro Pedrosa]

What do you mean by draft-and-stash, is that even legal? There's good money to be made here.

Sometimes teams have agreements with second round picks to sign outright with The G League Team so they keep their Draft Rights rather than risk having to cut or use a main roster spot on them.

Understood, my command of English still fails my good sense of humour.

It’s also a term used for international players who want to remain overseas for a couple of years before coming to the NBA

[[whistler]]

Am I the only one who doesn't care if they sell some 2nd round draft picks? The Magic essentially own all of their future draft picks plus extras all the way up through 2028 so it isn't like they've leased out their draft future like some other teams. I don't really see there being a much higher chance of finding a star in the 2nd round vs the tons of players in free agency, some of them being former hyped 1st rounders.

[Howard Mass]

The Magic also got a future 2nd in this Trade.

If you look at the roster, The Magic currently have 10 Guaranteed contracts (If you include #1).

Moritz Wagner (Team Option) and Devin Cannady (Non-guaranteed Player Option) would make 11 as Cannady is 12 but also not guaranteed.

Then, The Magic have 4 free agents: Mo Bamba, Gary Harris, Robin Lopez and Bol Bol.

It's possible The Magic want to bring back some free agents and add a veteran or two in free agency.

With that said, I'd like them to bring in a second rookie to camp but roster spots are limited.