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Post#1081 » by BucksFanSD » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:38 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:I just don’t see it with this guy. But am excited to be proven wrong next season.

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He has some very good stats that translate well generally, but the biggest fear for me is can he get strong enough to play the 5 in the NBA?


If he can't the Thunder will slide Chet to the 4 and have Pokuševski at the 5.

Looking forward to it, actually. Especially when they wave their hands in the air on defense.
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Post#1082 » by skones » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:51 pm

JonHeist wrote:For someone with the highest block % in NCAA history (Walker Kessler) it sure is weird how none of the blocks in his highlights are impressive at all

also he averaged like .23 blocks a minute at home and .13 on the road/neutral so there's probably some serious homecookin being done by auburn's scorekeeper


I don't agree that his block highlights aren't impressive. If anything, the single most impressive thing about Kessler is the fundamentals he puts into action when blocking shots. Guy is so so so good at creating legal contact with his chest and going straight up, altering the shot, and often times collecting the ball or putting a teammate in position to. That's just a far more impactful way to do things than jumping 35 inches in the air and swatting a shot out of bounds.
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Post#1083 » by buckboy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:04 pm

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Post#1084 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:13 pm

emunney wrote:Still think Chet's going to be really good unless he's medically derailed like mid thinks.


I missed out on the medical post, can you point me to the issue?
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Post#1085 » by Fotis St » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:16 pm

Chet is a second rounder in my opinion.
Don't understand the hype.
Opponents will shove him out of their way & dunk on him so many times.
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Post#1086 » by emunney » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:17 pm

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emunney wrote:Still think Chet's going to be really good unless he's medically derailed like mid thinks.


I missed out on the medical post, can you point me to the issue?


When the news about him dodging cardio evals came out, mid pointed out that he's got a lot of physical presentations of Marfan Syndrome. Came pretty close to betting his medical license on it.
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Post#1087 » by theFireBlanket » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:18 pm

Kessler will be elite at protecting the rim & has fundamentals to put together a post game. Wouldn't be upset with targeting him at all.
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Post#1088 » by BuildingBucks » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

Not a first rounder to me but a second round sleeper I like is Alondes Williams, his court vision and passing ability might be the best in the draft. And his dunk highlights and finishing at the rim are impressive. If only his jumper didn't look so rough. Was effective in the mid range despite that just not much there beyond the arc.
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Post#1089 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:21 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
emunney wrote:Still think Chet's going to be really good unless he's medically derailed like mid thinks.


I missed out on the medical post, can you point me to the issue?


When the news about him dodging cardio evals came out, mid pointed out that he's got a lot of physical presentations of Marfan Syndrome. Came pretty close to betting his medical license on it.


There was this that came out yesterday FYI

https://sports.yahoo.com/chet-holmgren-refuse-medical-information-200031731.html

“There’s some questions about his medicals. I’ve been told — I’ve heard mixed things. I’ve also been told that he’s not given his medicals to Orlando or Oklahoma City. Whether that matters, we’ll find out. But it’s possible if anybody slips at the top three to number four, in my opinion, it’s Chet. Just based on the medicals. There are going to be doctors who question — there are some questions about whether he took the heart test with the NBA. I don’t know for sure, so I don’t want to say he didn’t. But there are definitely gonna be some doctors who think there’s too much risk at number one. So he’s certainly an option — a candidate to slip if there is going to be a slider. And Jaden Ivey would be the guy who slides into the top three.”
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Post#1090 » by FrieAaron » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:24 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
emunney wrote:Still think Chet's going to be really good unless he's medically derailed like mid thinks.


I missed out on the medical post, can you point me to the issue?


When the news about him dodging cardio evals came out, mid pointed out that he's got a lot of physical presentations of Marfan Syndrome. Came pretty close to betting his medical license on it.


Hadn't heard about this and am having trouble getting any results from google. What's this about?

Edit: Just saw the above post. How does the NBA not REQUIRE players do cardio tests? Just for safety reasons.
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Post#1091 » by BigO » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:All this obsession with "going small" and "switching everything" continues to ignore the things that you sacrifice if you don't have the perfect personnel equipped to do it (rim protection, rebounding). Would've thought we learned that after the disastrous Semi Ojeleye experiment where the front office just assumed they could replace PJ with any 6'6 guy with a pulse who's also built like a fire hydrant.

That's not even a defense for drafting Kessler (I wouldn't), but using that same rationale to dismiss any non-floor spacing 5 next to Giannis is exactly how you draft a bust or mediocre end-of-bench guy because he fits "a role" and are blindly focused on a specific player archetype. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to move up and draft a dude like Mark Williams if the opportunity presents itself. Brook regressing to a 31-32% 3PT shooter since his first season under Bud hasn't had a detrimental effect on spacing and the overall offense at all.


Also, the game changes and a little imagination goes a long way. It's not like switching everything is the terminal point of basketball evolution. There will be a response.


Using Semi to attack going small is pretty weak sauce. Semi isn't good in any system. That was a Horst/Bud failure.

As far as the game changing, it has been changing in one direction for 15 years and it all has to do with the:

1) advent of analytics
2) increase in three point shooters.

Teams know that their success doesn't rely on low post offense anymore, but rather having multiple shooters OR multiple switchable defenders.

You can envision a day when posting down low has a comeback, but it ain't going to be soon. Unless there are rule changes or changing of the three point line, the need for defenders who can guard multiple positions is critical to success. Now, if you have the best player in the world, you have some room for error, but it is no accident the Warriors and Celtics were the last teams standing.

Switching isn't the terminal defense, but it is critical in the near future. As to never drafting a big, I sure never said that. What I said was that the Bucks shouldn't draft Kessler. If they can find a big who can switch (maybe Williams), that's great. They're just very hard to find.
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Post#1092 » by theFireBlanket » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:40 pm

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Post#1093 » by SKG » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:58 pm

Oklahoma will soon have the skinniest starting 5 ever in this leahue
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Post#1094 » by crowhead76 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:14 pm

SKG wrote:Oklahoma will soon have the skinniest starting 5 ever in this leahue


With the cost of fuel, they are looking to save money on team flights.
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Post#1095 » by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:25 pm

Richard Jefferson is embarrassing. This Countdown show is a big yikes.
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Post#1096 » by Licensed to Il » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:29 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Richard Jefferson is embarrassing. This Countdown show is a big yikes.


That guy has always been a little odd, to me.
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Post#1097 » by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:10 pm

Why does Stephen A need to be on everything ESPN does? He's literally just yelling in his mic during a round-table conversation on Kyrie. It's like listening to Dick Vitale commentate golf.

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Post#1098 » by Gianstoppable » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:14 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Richard Jefferson is embarrassing. This Countdown show is a big yikes.

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