2022 NBA Draft Part II

[CptCrunch]

Ignoring fit, my grade so far for the top 10 picks.

Magic - Paolo - A+, best player first, make the right pick despite media distractions, legendary smokescreen
OKC - Chet - A, second best player this year
Houston - Jabari, A-, third best player, Paolo actually dodged Orlando workout on purpose to get to Houston
Kings - Murray, F, huge reach going for Keegan here. As I said last year, age is just a number for them. Drafting an old prospect once again. Low upside high floor isn't we you should go here.
Pistons - Ivey, B, consensus #4 pick but lower on my board, likely a reasonable pick given that they picked right after the Kings.
Pacers - Mathurin, B+, very sharp choice cutting through the noise in picking a boring prospect
Blazers - Sharpe, C, I know I said I am not gonna hammer fit, but this is terrible for Portland's timeline. Sharpe is a mega project with high upside. Dame is gonna get dealt this season?
Pelicans - Daniels, A+, selected the best passing guard this year
Spurs - Sochan, A, this pick might be legendary, this man is way better than Kawhi on defense at draft. This kid can be DPOY.
Wizards - Davis, F-, Wizards take a 20+ talent at 10. I'm gonna make up F minus since this is way worse than what the Kings did.

[Big J]

Johnny Davis mom a baddy too.

[CP War Hawks]

Anyone have the latest medicals on Griffin. Can't imagine an 18 yo knees are already finished.

[Duke4life831]

The Pels believe in their ability to develop guys shooting with Fred Vinson, if that's his weakness.

The real issue is that there isn't really someone available that's a clean fit for what the Pels need at 8, so they took what they thought was BPA. We really don't have many minutes available for a rookie unless he's an instant stud right now anyway, so he's going to have to be someone that sits and develops.

We're not drafting for a guy that starts today.

But why not go for Johnny Davis instead then? Id much rather go with Davis if the hope is a player is going to drastically become a better shooter. Id rather go with Davis with the thought of even if he doesnt fit in a starting lineup with BI and Zion, he could be a good scorer who can defend off the bench.

With Daniels the hope is pretty much, hopefully he gets big strides in his shot so he can maybe become similar to Lonzo. They didnt like the Lonzo fit.

[Big J]

High bust potential with Dieng. Knicks drafting him does not inspire confidence. Ahh, going to OKC. Guess they are just throwing darts.

[Duke4life831]

Honest question, does Woj have Tourette's or something? Seems to have a twitch going on.

[SelfishPlayer]

Knicks have drafted a lot of foreign players

[Big J]

Love Perk calling Chet out on the weight room stuff.

[NO-KG-AI]

The Pels believe in their ability to develop guys shooting with Fred Vinson, if that's his weakness.

The real issue is that there isn't really someone available that's a clean fit for what the Pels need at 8, so they took what they thought was BPA. We really don't have many minutes available for a rookie unless he's an instant stud right now anyway, so he's going to have to be someone that sits and develops.

We're not drafting for a guy that starts today.

But why not go for Johnny Davis instead then? Id much rather go with Davis if the hope is a player is going to drastically become a better shooter. Id rather go with Davis with the thought of even if he doesnt fit in a starting lineup with BI and Zion, he could be a good scorer who can defend off the bench.

With Daniels the hope is pretty much, hopefully he gets big strides in his shot so he can maybe become similar to Lonzo. They didnt like the Lonzo fit.

I like Johnny Davis too, but I don't love (or particularly hate either) anyone that was reasonably expected to be picked at the spot. In a perfect world, an explosive guard with range is our biggest need. That guy doesn't really exist right now.

I dunno why we are still talking about Lonzo. He's one of the worst half court guards I've ever watched night to night. He's completely useless inside the 3 point line, like Bizarro Ben Simmons. He's a good passer but not a real creator that gets people easy shots. He's an injury prone mess, he's paid 20+ million a year, and he has an inflated sense of what his role and stuff should be here. Even his defense is way overrated. He's got all the tools, but he also gets lazy as hell and completely falls asleep on defense.

If Lonzo was 19, on a rookie deal, and was going to come in and buy into our development plan and stuff, it would be different.

Nobody here wants Lonzo, and Lonzo doesn't want us. Daniels already is shooting 74% from the line, and shot the ball well the last 2/3 of the season, and he doesn't need his entire shot mechanics re-worked like Lonzo did.

I'm a way bigger believer in taking talent over trying to make a perfect lineup where everyone can defend every position and shoots 50/40/90. I just hope Daniels is the best talent and becomes a star(I'm not sure he is, but I dont feel like I know who that player is). Fit will work itself out.

[clyde21]

Charlotte needs to take Williams here and run, and then Eason.

[jman3134]

I don't see how you take Williams over AJ Griffin, Malaki Branham, or Ochai Agbaji. There is a talent gap imo.

[jman3134]

I'm guessing Charlotte takes Duren here.

[Duke4life831]

The Pels believe in their ability to develop guys shooting with Fred Vinson, if that's his weakness.

The real issue is that there isn't really someone available that's a clean fit for what the Pels need at 8, so they took what they thought was BPA. We really don't have many minutes available for a rookie unless he's an instant stud right now anyway, so he's going to have to be someone that sits and develops.

We're not drafting for a guy that starts today.

But why not go for Johnny Davis instead then? Id much rather go with Davis if the hope is a player is going to drastically become a better shooter. Id rather go with Davis with the thought of even if he doesnt fit in a starting lineup with BI and Zion, he could be a good scorer who can defend off the bench.

With Daniels the hope is pretty much, hopefully he gets big strides in his shot so he can maybe become similar to Lonzo. They didnt like the Lonzo fit.

I like Johnny Davis too, but I don't love (or particularly hate either) anyone that was reasonably expected to be picked at the spot. In a perfect world, an explosive guard with range is our biggest need. That guy doesn't really exist right now.

I dunno why we are still talking about Lonzo. He's one of the worst half court guards I've ever watched night to night. He's completely useless inside the 3 point line, like Bizarro Ben Simmons. He's a good passer but not a real creator that gets people easy shots. He's an injury prone mess, he's paid 20+ million a year, and he has an inflated sense of what his role and stuff should be here. Even his defense is way overrated. He's got all the tools, but he also gets lazy as hell and completely falls asleep on defense.

If Lonzo was 19, on a rookie deal, and was going to come in and buy into our development plan and stuff, it would be different.

Nobody here wants Lonzo, and Lonzo doesn't want us. Daniels already is shooting 74% from the line, and shot the ball well the last 2/3 of the season, and he doesn't need his entire shot mechanics re-worked like Lonzo did.

I'm a way bigger believer in taking talent over trying to make a perfect lineup where everyone can defend every position and shoots 50/40/90. I just hope Daniels is the best talent and becomes a star(I'm not sure he is, but I dont feel like I know who that player is). Fit will work itself out.

Because they're similar players. 6'6 guards who are pass first and good defenders who arent good scorers and arent good shooters. Also his season was only 14 games, not really looking to into what his shooting numbers were over the last half-2/3s of a 14 game season.

Just dont think this team needed another ball handler, especially a ball handler who isnt a good shooter. This team desperately needs shooting. Again I think the best thought process should be having the mindset of giving BI and Zion more and more on ball responsibilities. Get those guys that can play off of them and give good spacing.

[jman3134]

Ochai Agbaji will likely be the pick here I think.

[NO-KG-AI]

You're not wrong. I just don't think there is a real shooter at the guard spot that warranted going number 8, so you just take who you think was the best. Any of the wing guys are going to have to beat out Zion, Ingram, Murphy who already is a sick shooter, and Herb who is a top tier defender who improved a ton as a shooter very quickly.

I wouldn't have been mad with Davis, Duren, Griffin either though, even if they have flaws or aren't great fits lol. I just hope the Pels picked the guy that ends up the best player, since the clean fit wasn't really there. I'm totally ok with a team player who can chip in all over the floor and has a tough/hustle mentality. That mantra worked out so well for our draft last year, I'm in!

[Duke4life831]

Great pick for the Cavs. Agbaji just needs to come in and play with energy, play hard nose defense and shoot the 3. And he should be able to do that right away. Should fit great next to Mobley and Garland.

[jman3134]

Think Charlotte goes Eason here. Fits their dynamic best.

[azcatz11]

Great pick for the Cavs. Agbaji just needs to come in and play with energy, play hard nose defense and shoot the 3. And he should be able to do that right away. Should fit great next to Mobley and Garland.

Sexton moves to the bench?

[Duke4life831]

You're not wrong. I just don't think there is a real shooter at the guard spot that warranted going number 8, so you just take who you think was the best. Any of the wing guys are going to have to beat out Zion, Ingram, Murphy who already is a sick shooter, and Herb who is a top tier defender who improved a ton as a shooter very quickly.

I wouldn't have been mad with Davis, Duren, Griffin either though, even if they have flaws or aren't great fits lol. I just hope the Pels picked the guy that ends up the best player, since the clean fit wasn't really there. I'm totally ok with a team player who can chip in all over the floor and has a tough/hustle mentality. That mantra worked out so well for our draft last year, I'm in!

I just think you either try and trade down, or take the guy with the slightly lower ceiling but the better fit. I just think guys like AJ or Agbaji are the much better fits. And I would've gone with Davis over Daniels if I would've gone with a higher ceiling guy. Because again at least Davis has a nice path of being a 6th man scorer if he doesnt fit with BI and Zion in the starting lineup.

[The Moose]

Ivey and Duren were both top 7 guys for me, so I'm stoked