Mavs rotation ahead of FA

[41Dirk41]

He might make 3/4 3s in a row, but he definitely gets killed by opponents. That is the main problem.

Not so true... He is not a worse defender than Luka or Brunson,

WHAT???? Dude you're not watching the games then.

Davis tries and I appreciate that but he is a large step below even Luka.

Brunson can't guard a chair, everybody shoots on his head. He is short + short arms.

Luka resting in defense of course, potential is a decent defender.

[BeiBeau]

Good player shows value on court automatically, no matter if there are any plays call for him. You can score, perimeter/post defense, rebound, shooting, assist, ball screening, ball handling, making offensive charge, steal, block......there are just too many things you can do during the game. However, Bertans can just shoot and nothing else. I agree we may set some plays for him to get some 3 pts shooting, but once it doesn't fall in, then you have to take him out, because he is killing us on all other areas. We cannot try to play him more, and hoping to rebuild his trade value, in return for the risk of losing the game and our position in the extremely competitive western conference. Of course, we can play him more in those rubbish time, or those games with bad teams, but come on, other teams are not that foolish to be misled. In short, bad player is bad player, you cannot fix it by any means. Bad player under huge contract is a disaster that you can either add further positive assets to unload it or just holding it until it expired.

Agreed half the people on this forum have the attitude of "RS doesnt matter" in a since I understand why. But they're dead wrong, it's important that we avoid back-to-back-to-back series against the Nuggests, Grizzlies, Clippers, Warriors. Playing Bertans bull minutes to hope and increase his trade value is stupid the second it starts to cost us games.

If you think playing Bertans 10/15min in RS will change our seed you are dead wrong my friend

You love so much RS stats, so Bertans had one the Mavs best +/- last season

I have never cared about RS stats, but I do care about regular season wins. If you really think playing Bertans, a bottom 5 defender in the league, 18 minutes instead of 10 minutes doesn't make a difference in a game then I don't know what to tell you other then you should learn basketball before making takes.

[BeiBeau]

Not so true... He is not a worse defender than Luka or Brunson,

WHAT???? Dude you're not watching the games then.

Davis tries and I appreciate that but he is a large step below even Luka.

Brunson can't guard a chair, everybody shoots on his head. He is short + short arms.

Luka resting in defense of course, potential is a decent defender.

Jalen wont be a plus defender, but you don't watch the games if you think Brunson is worse than Bertans. Jalen has the most physical limitations on the team in terms of defense but he's fairly quick to stick in front of smaller guards, is very crafty with his charges he takes, has a solid frame to not get backed down by bigger guards, and is smart on his switches.

The only thing Bertans does on defense is try, but he's one of the few people in the NBA where effort doesn't matter for his defense, he just sucks at it. Even when he sticks on his man he's just not physical enough, quickness, doesn't jump high enough to change the shot.

[41Dirk41]

Agreed half the people on this forum have the attitude of "RS doesnt matter" in a since I understand why. But they're dead wrong, it's important that we avoid back-to-back-to-back series against the Nuggests, Grizzlies, Clippers, Warriors. Playing Bertans bull minutes to hope and increase his trade value is stupid the second it starts to cost us games.

If you think playing Bertans 10/15min in RS will change our seed you are dead wrong my friend

You love so much RS stats, so Bertans had one the Mavs best +/- last season

I have never cared about RS stats, but I do care about regular season wins. If you really think playing Bertans, a bottom 5 defender in the league, 18 minutes instead of 10 minutes doesn't make a difference in a game then I don't know what to tell you other then you should learn basketball before making takes.

What?????

You talked about RS stats when you have exalted Powell "elite offensive skill" (OMG that's exhilarating every time ) a couple days ago.

[BeiBeau]

If you think playing Bertans 10/15min in RS will change our seed you are dead wrong my friend

You love so much RS stats, so Bertans had one the Mavs best +/- last season

I have never cared about RS stats, but I do care about regular season wins. If you really think playing Bertans, a bottom 5 defender in the league, 18 minutes instead of 10 minutes doesn't make a difference in a game then I don't know what to tell you other then you should learn basketball before making takes.

What?????

You talked about RS stats when you have exalted Powell "elite offensive skill" (OMG that's exhilarating every time ) a couple days ago.

Thats not a stat. Saying that Powell has elite finishing and will help win RS games so we can avoid the Nuggets or Clippers in the first round isn't the same as caring about RS stats.

[41Dirk41]

WHAT???? Dude you're not watching the games then.

Davis tries and I appreciate that but he is a large step below even Luka.

Brunson can't guard a chair, everybody shoots on his head. He is short + short arms.

Luka resting in defense of course, potential is a decent defender.

Jalen wont be a plus defender, but you don't watch the games if you think Brunson is worse than Bertans. Jalen has the most physical limitations on the team in terms of defense but he's fairly quick to stick in front of smaller guards, is very crafty with his charges he takes, has a solid frame to not get backed down by bigger guards, and is smart on his switches.

The only thing Bertans does on defense is try, but he's one of the few people in the NBA where effort doesn't matter for his defense, he just sucks at it. Even when he sticks on his man he's just not physical enough, quickness, doesn't jump high enough to change the shot.

I said Bertans is not a worse defender than Brunson, not Jalen is a worse defender than Bertans.
It's different.
They are both bad defender.

Brunson take the worst offensive player of the other teams, every time. Crowder/Green ecc ecc.
It's not a randomness. He can't guard literally nobody.
Plus on the perimeter the shooters are not afraid by him because he is too short and everybody can shoot over him without problem.

It's not on me, it's Kidd and the court spoken. Sorry.

[41Dirk41]

I have never cared about RS stats, but I do care about regular season wins. If you really think playing Bertans, a bottom 5 defender in the league, 18 minutes instead of 10 minutes doesn't make a difference in a game then I don't know what to tell you other then you should learn basketball before making takes.

What?????

You talked about RS stats when you have exalted Powell "elite offensive skill" (OMG that's exhilarating every time ) a couple days ago.

Thats not a stat. Saying that Powell has elite finishing and will help win RS games so we can avoid the Nuggets or Clippers in the first round isn't the same as caring about RS stats.

Man don't joke on me please, you talked about "93th percentile for finish around the basket".
That's a stat. Don't be stupid.

[BeiBeau]

Brunson can't guard a chair, everybody shoots on his head. He is short + short arms.

Luka resting in defense of course, potential is a decent defender.

Jalen wont be a plus defender, but you don't watch the games if you think Brunson is worse than Bertans. Jalen has the most physical limitations on the team in terms of defense but he's fairly quick to stick in front of smaller guards, is very crafty with his charges he takes, has a solid frame to not get backed down by bigger guards, and is smart on his switches.

The only thing Bertans does on defense is try, but he's one of the few people in the NBA where effort doesn't matter for his defense, he just sucks at it. Even when he sticks on his man he's just not physical enough, quickness, doesn't jump high enough to change the shot.

I said Bertans is not a worse defender than Brunson, not Jalen is a worse defender than Bertans.
It's different.
They are both bad defender.

Brunson take the worst offensive player of the other teams, every time. Crowder/Green ecc ecc.
It's not a randomness. He can't guard literally nobody.
Plus on the perimeter the shooters are not afraid by him because he is too short and everybody can shoot over him without problem.

It's not on me, it's Kidd and the court spoken. Sorry.

Yeah obviously Brunson defends the worst starter on the opposing team. He's the worst defender in the starting line up. You're just wrong if you think he's the same as Bertans. But a bad defender isn't the same as a bottom 3 defender in the league. Sorry, court as spoken.

[BeiBeau]

What?????

You talked about RS stats when you have exalted Powell "elite offensive skill" (OMG that's exhilarating every time ) a couple days ago.

Thats not a stat. Saying that Powell has elite finishing and will help win RS games so we can avoid the Nuggets or Clippers in the first round isn't the same as caring about RS stats.

Man don't joke on me please, you talked about "93th percentile for finish around the basket".
That's a stat. Don't be stupid.

Ehh. If you want to be ticky tacky sure 93rd percentile is a stat. But that wasn't the intention when it was brought up and you know it. I would say don't be stupid but...

[41Dirk41]

Thats not a stat. Saying that Powell has elite finishing and will help win RS games so we can avoid the Nuggets or Clippers in the first round isn't the same as caring about RS stats.

Man don't joke on me please, you talked about "93th percentile for finish around the basket".
That's a stat. Don't be stupid.

Ehh. If you want to be ticky tacky sure 93rd percentile is a stat. But that wasn't the intention when it was brought up and you know it. I would say don't be stupid but...

That's a stat. No question.

[41Dirk41]

Jalen wont be a plus defender, but you don't watch the games if you think Brunson is worse than Bertans. Jalen has the most physical limitations on the team in terms of defense but he's fairly quick to stick in front of smaller guards, is very crafty with his charges he takes, has a solid frame to not get backed down by bigger guards, and is smart on his switches.

The only thing Bertans does on defense is try, but he's one of the few people in the NBA where effort doesn't matter for his defense, he just sucks at it. Even when he sticks on his man he's just not physical enough, quickness, doesn't jump high enough to change the shot.

I said Bertans is not a worse defender than Brunson, not Jalen is a worse defender than Bertans.
It's different.
They are both bad defender.

Brunson take the worst offensive player of the other teams, every time. Crowder/Green ecc ecc.
It's not a randomness. He can't guard literally nobody.
Plus on the perimeter the shooters are not afraid by him because he is too short and everybody can shoot over him without problem.

It's not on me, it's Kidd and the court spoken. Sorry.

Yeah obviously Brunson defends the worst starter on the opposing team. He's the worst defender in the starting line up. You're just wrong if you think he's the same as Bertans. But a bad defender isn't the same as a bottom 3 defender in the league. Sorry, court as spoken.

Brunson taken worst opponent starter every time and Bertans played most of the time out of position (because Dwight "mr elite offensive skill" Powell can't play). That's the reality.
We can't hide Bertans because we have to hide Brunso( and others ) but that's right because they are better players... So you can't judge their defense in those situation.

[BeiBeau]

Man don't joke on me please, you talked about "93th percentile for finish around the basket".
That's a stat. Don't be stupid.

Ehh. If you want to be ticky tacky sure 93rd percentile is a stat. But that wasn't the intention when it was brought up and you know it. I would say don't be stupid but...

That's a stat. No question.

Whatever buddy. It is technically a stat sure, but that wasn't the context. You can go tell your mom you won an argument on the internet. I think it might be best if we don't get into these long conversations anymore because I don't think you're arguing in good faith. It feels like you're trying for a race to the bottom.

[41Dirk41]

Ehh. If you want to be ticky tacky sure 93rd percentile is a stat. But that wasn't the intention when it was brought up and you know it. I would say don't be stupid but...

That's a stat. No question.

Whatever buddy. It is technically a stat sure, but that wasn't the context. You can go tell your mom you won an argument on the internet. I think it might be best if we don't get into these long conversations anymore because I don't think you're arguing in good faith. It feels like you're trying for a race to the bottom.

I know, that's hurt.

But **** happens so go ahead and try to learn the lesson. Cheers.

[SOUNDCHASER]

If NY offers Brunson $110 Mill, what do we do let him go or sign him. Goran Dragic can show up and we already have Dinwiddie, and Frank. Maybe Hardy can handle the ball too?

[arkuo]

If NY offers Brunson $110 Mill, what do we do let him go or sign him. Goran Dragic can show up and we already have Dinwiddie, and Frank. Maybe Hardy can handle the ball too?

At this point, it all depends on what Brunson wants. Nico said this during his press conference. Dallas will bring him back if he wants to come back. But also wont break the bank just for him. If he wants to leave then Dallas will work out a sign and trade.

Brunson is nice piece to have but he's not All-NBA $30M nice. Luka is a must have. Brunson is a nice to have. There are tiers to this.

[Apz]

If NY offers Brunson $110 Mill, what do we do let him go or sign him. Goran Dragic can show up and we already have Dinwiddie, and Frank. Maybe Hardy can handle the ball too?

I would let him walk if thats the case. I would not sign dragic. Unless he agree to be on the bench always and just are there to teach hardy.

[41Dirk41]

I see Mavs absorb a PG/SG on the TPE if they feeling that Brunson will go away... TPE expires 27 june, right?

[Apz]

I see Mavs absorb a PG/SG on the TPE if they feeling that Brunson will go away... TPE expires 27 june, right?

Better give hardy the chance. Im not worried with luka dinwiddie hardy green thj bullock frank back there. More worried because we only have kleber bertans at pf and wood powell at C.

[arkuo]

I see Mavs absorb a PG/SG on the TPE if they feeling that Brunson will go away... TPE expires 27 june, right?

Better give hardy the chance. Im not worried with luka dinwiddie hardy green thj bullock frank back there. More worried because we only have kleber bertans at pf and wood powell at C.

I think Kidd will go to war with Woods + Powell at C. He's almost never gone three deep at center in the playoffs.

Would be nice to see Woods play long minutes to see if he is really worth a contract extension.

[41Dirk41]

I think Kidd is smart enough to want another big... It's time to contend. Now.