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Skin wrote:drsd wrote:The-Stallion70 wrote:I expect Banchero to operate as a center often and primary decision maker similar to how Vucevic did.
Bacnchero does let Carter play PF minutes. And the two can rotate between positions on both ends.
That spells doom for us on defense.
Skin wrote:Rainwater wrote:Skin wrote:It's the weirdest built team ever.
Orlando's Rebuilding Plan... Duplicating talent everywhere and hoping it fits and doesn't sink.
You make it seem like this is the final team, like the rebuilding has ended. No, this is a multi year process. There will be a few more years and few more drafts to correct this roster.
We were in the bottom barrel of the league in 3PT% and with the #1 overall pick, did absolutely nothing to improve ourselves in that area. But maybe he's right. You don't need to shoot 3s in order to win in today's NBA. .
KillMonger wrote:yeah....like defense was ever our problem....i swear man
cedric76 wrote:I m still in shock
Wasn't my pick but welcomed Paolo and Best of luck
Go Magic
pepe1991 wrote:Most people are down on Banchero because ...: Fultz and Suggs ?
You kidding ,right? Because your team is really going anywhere with Reggie Jackson vol.2 and poor man Eric Bledsoe ?
For love of the God STOP overhyping Fultz into something he isn't . He was drafted 5 years ago. for half of a decade he continued to prove he ISN'T what he was proclaimed to be before draft .He is the worst first overall pick since Bennett. He is bust.
At apsolute best ,Fultz is your middle of the road- top 20 PG in nba. In way more realistic scenario, Fultz is overused T. J. McConnell /homeless Westbrook.
He isn't good defender, he can pass but he can't shoot from long range, he is forced to take mid range shots who are in general bad shots and there is nothing for him to do in modern offense if ball isn't in his hands. BUT he,himself, isn't good enough to have ball in his hands most of the time. So you are stuck between rock and hard place where you have to pander offense to him, and in same time he isn't THAT good where that's justified.
Rainwater wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Most people are down on Banchero because ...: Fultz and Suggs ?
You kidding ,right? Because your team is really going anywhere with Reggie Jackson vol.2 and poor man Eric Bledsoe ?
For love of the God STOP overhyping Fultz into something he isn't . He was drafted 5 years ago. for half of a decade he continued to prove he ISN'T what he was proclaimed to be before draft .He is the worst first overall pick since Bennett. He is bust.
At apsolute best ,Fultz is your middle of the road- top 20 PG in nba. In way more realistic scenario, Fultz is overused T. J. McConnell /homeless Westbrook.
He isn't good defender, he can pass but he can't shoot from long range, he is forced to take mid range shots who are in general bad shots and there is nothing for him to do in modern offense if ball isn't in his hands. BUT he,himself, isn't good enough to have ball in his hands most of the time. So you are stuck between rock and hard place where you have to pander offense to him, and in same time he isn't THAT good where that's justified.
Yeah, I feel like people have become attached to certain players (or a certain vision) of this team without realizing, as this a rebuild, unless you are "that guy or those guys" (who the magic haven't really established yet maybe with the exception of franz) their fit doesn't really matter and could be moved to build a more cohesive team.
KillMonger wrote:
is Lethal Shooter going to be coming to Orlando as well as a shooting coach? I believe he did some work with Cole and Markelle....make sense if it's case
pepe1991 wrote:One thing that confuses me is why so many smokescreens if you are first on the clock to draft?
Did they really think Houston will give them Green to move 2 spots up? Or unprotected pick? Stone, Houston GM, has been working for nba for 17 years on top positions, he ain't fool, buying off Segun for pretty much top 18 protected pick in far future is best example that he won't get fooled by smokescreens.
It's still very confusing why Magic didn't trade down for lesser return value ( and still drafted player they wanted).
It's still unclear why create all this drama about Banchero's workout if he was going to be your first overall pick?
It's still unclear why play Jabari Smith like complete fool and have him parading around Magic arena like they signed prime Hakeem/Jordan just to play him- like a fool on draft night?
Wtf was that with printing Banchero's name on number Bamba has , as guy is still RFA and in theory "your" player. That's a guy you spent 6th overall pick on just 4 years ago.
Just very,very confusing predraft time culminated into very confusing draft night.
Rainwater wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Most people are down on Banchero because ...: Fultz and Suggs ?
You kidding ,right? Because your team is really going anywhere with Reggie Jackson vol.2 and poor man Eric Bledsoe ?
For love of the God STOP overhyping Fultz into something he isn't . He was drafted 5 years ago. for half of a decade he continued to prove he ISN'T what he was proclaimed to be before draft .He is the worst first overall pick since Bennett. He is bust.
At apsolute best ,Fultz is your middle of the road- top 20 PG in nba. In way more realistic scenario, Fultz is overused T. J. McConnell /homeless Westbrook.
He isn't good defender, he can pass but he can't shoot from long range, he is forced to take mid range shots who are in general bad shots and there is nothing for him to do in modern offense if ball isn't in his hands. BUT he,himself, isn't good enough to have ball in his hands most of the time. So you are stuck between rock and hard place where you have to pander offense to him, and in same time he isn't THAT good where that's justified.
Yeah, I feel like people have become attached to certain players (or a certain vision) of this team without realizing, as this a rebuild, unless you are "that guy or those guys" (who the magic haven't really established yet maybe with the exception of franz) their fit doesn't really matter and could be moved to build a more cohesive team.
j_n wrote:Skin wrote:Rainwater wrote:
You make it seem like this is the final team, like the rebuilding has ended. No, this is a multi year process. There will be a few more years and few more drafts to correct this roster.
We were in the bottom barrel of the league in 3PT% and with the #1 overall pick, did absolutely nothing to improve ourselves in that area. But maybe he's right. You don't need to shoot 3s in order to win in today's NBA. .
Agreed, that's why I wanted Jabari, can't do much about it now.
Besides, regardless of how confident I am about certain prospects, the draft is always a crapshoot.
If I remember correctly before the 2013 draft you made a thread about why we should take Ben Mclemore over Oladipo( I was also leaning towards Ben), with other options being Noel, Burke, Zeller, Len or even Shabazz Muhammed.
Fast forward to today and most of the lottery guys from that draft busted horribly while Giannis and Gobert were taken outside of the lottery so who the hell knows anything right now?
Skin wrote:j_n wrote:Skin wrote:We were in the bottom barrel of the league in 3PT% and with the #1 overall pick, did absolutely nothing to improve ourselves in that area. But maybe he's right. You don't need to shoot 3s in order to win in today's NBA. .
Agreed, that's why I wanted Jabari, can't do much about it now.
Besides, regardless of how confident I am about certain prospects, the draft is always a crapshoot.
If I remember correctly before the 2013 draft you made a thread about why we should take Ben Mclemore over Oladipo( I was also leaning towards Ben), with other options being Noel, Burke, Zeller, Len or even Shabazz Muhammed.
Fast forward to today and most of the lottery guys from that draft busted horribly while Giannis and Gobert were taken outside of the lottery so who the hell knows anything right now?
I have been wrong plenty, but I passionately wanted Dipo over B-Mac. So correction there.
I hated Hezonja from the start, but I don't hate Banchero as much as I hated Hezonja. I can give him a chance, but I still have to express my worries.
Luka is a career 33% 3 point shooter and career 73% free throw shooter. Not sure I consider that dead eyeSkin wrote:RookieStar wrote:Watching that DAL vs PHO series... Luka just bullied anyone and everyone who guarded him. He was hunting CP3, he took Ayton to an island, Booker was scared and even their so called defensive guys in Bridges,Crowder and Cam were just toast.
Im.hoping Paolo can do the samenfor us.
Luka is a dead eye shooter. Paolo is a shooter with a dead eye.
