#24 - MarJon Beauchamp - NEW POLL ADDED 12/4/23

[Baddy Chuck]

The league where Nik Stauskas dominates aint better than **** .

Luka Garza dominated college. So did Nik Stauskas.

[JayMKE]

The league where Nik Stauskas dominates aint better than **** .

Luka Garza dominated college. So did Nik Stauskas.

Check out his g league stats then lol

You can’t be like these would be the best guys on their college teams therefor its a higher level of competition since its just not serious basketball for the most part. Its extended summer league, is summer league a higher level of competition than collage? The games aren’t played as a team or winning in mind, its just guys on an island getting theirs.

[FrieAaron]

I was very high on Moore so I can't say I love the pick, but obviously rooting for the kid.

[Baddy Chuck]

The league where Nik Stauskas dominates aint better than **** .

Luka Garza dominated college. So did Nik Stauskas.

Check out his g league stats then lol

You can’t be like these would be the best guys on their college teams therefor its a higher level of competition since its just not serious basketball for the most part. Its extended summer league, is summer league better the collage? The games aren’t played as a team or winning in mind, its get guys on an island getting theirs.

I just find it hilarious how you use Nik Stauskas as someone to point out how college basketball is superior.

The same Nik Stauskas that was the Big 10 player of the year.
The same Nik Stauskas that was the best player on an Elite 8 team the year Shabazz Naiper and DeAndre Daniels won it all.
The same Nik Stauskas that made second team All-American because Nick Johnson and Russ Smith beat him out.

I think the top end talent of college is unquestionably higher. I think a lot of the times the "talent" of those players is hardly developed and largely gawked at with potential though. Chet Holmgren wasn't a better college player than Kofi Cockburn who just went undrafted and will probably play in the G-League. And there's dozens of All-American, conference player of the year, etc playing in the G-League. Including, well, Nik Stauskas.

[JayMKE]

Luka Garza dominated college. So did Nik Stauskas.

Check out his g league stats then lol

You can’t be like these would be the best guys on their college teams therefor its a higher level of competition since its just not serious basketball for the most part. Its extended summer league, is summer league better the collage? The games aren’t played as a team or winning in mind, its get guys on an island getting theirs.

I just find it hilarious how you use Nik Stauskas as someone to point out how college basketball is superior.

The same Nik Stauskas that was the Big 10 player of the year.
The same Nik Stauskas that was the best player on an Elite 8 team the year Shabazz Naiper and DeAndre Daniels won it all.
The same Nik Stauskas that made second team All-American because Nick Johnson and Russ Smith beat him out.

I think the top end talent of college is unquestionably higher. I think a lot of the times the "talent" of those players is hardly developed and largely gawked at with potential though. Chet Holmgren wasn't a better college player than Kofi Cockburn who just went undrafted and will probably play in the G-League. And there's dozens of All-American, conference player of the year, etc playing in the G-League. Including, well, Nik Stauskas.

I guess I lost what the point trying to be made here about guys who suck in the NBA tearing it up in gatorade league exhibition games is. Again, its not serious competitive basketball.

[RRyder823]

Check out his g league stats then lol

You can’t be like these would be the best guys on their college teams therefor its a higher level of competition since its just not serious basketball for the most part. Its extended summer league, is summer league better the collage? The games aren’t played as a team or winning in mind, its get guys on an island getting theirs.

I just find it hilarious how you use Nik Stauskas as someone to point out how college basketball is superior.

The same Nik Stauskas that was the Big 10 player of the year.
The same Nik Stauskas that was the best player on an Elite 8 team the year Shabazz Naiper and DeAndre Daniels won it all.
The same Nik Stauskas that made second team All-American because Nick Johnson and Russ Smith beat him out.

I think the top end talent of college is unquestionably higher. I think a lot of the times the "talent" of those players is hardly developed and largely gawked at with potential though. Chet Holmgren wasn't a better college player than Kofi Cockburn who just went undrafted and will probably play in the G-League. And there's dozens of All-American, conference player of the year, etc playing in the G-League. Including, well, Nik Stauskas.

I guess I lost what the point trying to be made here about guys who suck in the NBA tearing it up in gatorade league exhibition games is. Again, its not serious competitive basketball.

But every college player who made it to the NBA then sucked in the NBA also tore it up in NCAA also so............

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[JayMKE]

I just find it hilarious how you use Nik Stauskas as someone to point out how college basketball is superior.

The same Nik Stauskas that was the Big 10 player of the year.
The same Nik Stauskas that was the best player on an Elite 8 team the year Shabazz Naiper and DeAndre Daniels won it all.
The same Nik Stauskas that made second team All-American because Nick Johnson and Russ Smith beat him out.

I think the top end talent of college is unquestionably higher. I think a lot of the times the "talent" of those players is hardly developed and largely gawked at with potential though. Chet Holmgren wasn't a better college player than Kofi Cockburn who just went undrafted and will probably play in the G-League. And there's dozens of All-American, conference player of the year, etc playing in the G-League. Including, well, Nik Stauskas.

I guess I lost what the point trying to be made here about guys who suck in the NBA tearing it up in gatorade league exhibition games is. Again, its not serious competitive basketball.

But every college player who made it to the NBA then sucked in the NBA also tore it up in NCAA also so............

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So? Did you even read my post?

[RRyder823]

I guess I lost what the point trying to be made here about guys who suck in the NBA tearing it up in gatorade league exhibition games is. Again, its not serious competitive basketball.

But every college player who made it to the NBA then sucked in the NBA also tore it up in NCAA also so............

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So? Did you even read my post?

Something something not competitive basketball because something something players that suck in the NBA have done well there because something something reasons so college is way better

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[Dick Tate]

I dub thee last series of pages as “Jay’s Bridge”.

Good players go to college for a year because they have to. That won’t always be the case.

[JayMKE]

But every college player who made it to the NBA then sucked in the NBA also tore it up in NCAA also so............

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So? Did you even read my post?

Something something not competitive basketball because something something players that suck in the NBA have done well there because something something reasons so college is way better

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yeah this isnt a serious post, do you feel stupid?

Gleague is just garbage summer league tier basketball and the main reason a prep player would go that route is because they can’t qualify. Pound the ball isos and very little defense, nobody runs plays or cares about winning.

[benultimate]

His athleticism getting to the rim is something we haven’t had for a while. Outside Gianni of course

[Coach Carter]

Better than Nwora

[Fotis St]

His athleticism getting to the rim is something we haven’t had for a while. Outside Gianni of course

Kinda disagree ... we have Jrue and Grayson Allen + Pat when cold from outside they attack the rim. We really miss a ball handler and a reliable shooter. The common thing with Pat & Grayson is that they have poor handles, can't create for themselves , so they just drive hard straight the lane.


Is he the return of Andre Roberson ?

Watch on YouTube

I hope he makes his FTs
BUT Does a Roberson has a role in todays NBA ?
The answer leans more to no than yes.

[Illawarra_Buck]

Minus the top competition, saying its better than college is a stretch.

What?

You don't actually think a typical 40 game college schedule is better competition than the G League do you?

The best players in college are better than the ones in the g league are they not? Why aren’t they getting pick #1 then?

The majority of G League players aren't draft cantidates though. They are grown-ass men and hardened professionals.

If your point is that there's more talent and potential in the NCAA. Absolutely. There's literally thousands of draft eligible 18-22 year olds plying their trade there. They rightfully see college ball as a great platform and development tool. The NCAA is still a colossus, it stands to reason that the majority of the best young talent still comes through this pathway.

Still, put the best college teams against a pro team from more or less any fully professional league, G League included, and they would be exposed for what they are; kids. The G League is a higher standard of competition than college and its not even close.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

The league where Nik Stauskas dominates aint better than ****

How many top college or Euroleague teams do you think a g league tean would beat with their summer league-esqe pound the air out of the ball iso style? Bad take on your guys parts.

20 year old Staukas averaged 18 points at Michigan. You don't think he wouldn't dominate and be the concensus college player of the year after 8 years of professional training (both physically and skill wise)?

[BigO]

The Bucks intent in drafting this kid is what I was asking for repeatedly; namely a player who can easily switch on defense at a high level. If this is what they get, then I'm all for it.

The one thing you would want in a offensively challenged player is to have a relatively high bball iq. The reports I read claim he is a bad passer and doesn't really see the floor or understand the game. Obviously, if true, that's a problem, because you also need smarts to play defense. The one thing Boston has is every one of their 7 switchable players is extremely smart.

But I love what it appears the Bucks are doing. Get as many switchable players as possible, as this is where the game is headed for the foreseeable future. So glad they didn't get a stationary big like Kessler, who can only play one type of defense, albeit at a probably high level.

[JayMKE]

What?

You don't actually think a typical 40 game college schedule is better competition than the G League do you?

The best players in college are better than the ones in the g league are they not? Why aren’t they getting pick #1 then?

The majority of G League players aren't draft cantidates though. They are grown-ass men and hardened professionals.

If your point is that there's more talent and potential in the NCAA. Absolutely. There's literally thousands of draft eligible 18-22 year olds plying their trade there. They rightfully see college ball as a great platform and development tool. The NCAA is still a colossus, it stands to reason that the majority of the best young talent still comes through this pathway.

Still, put the best college teams against a pro team from more or less any fully professional league, G League included, and they would be exposed for what they are; kids. The G League is a higher standard of competition than college and its not even close.

This isn't a video game where you sort everybody by imaginary skill points, competitive basketball actually involves competing. The gatorade league is more like guys working out individually and playing pick up basketball, the "hardened" professionals they're playing with are mostly wash out scrubs desperate to get theirs & be picked up anywhere and as soon as possible. There isn't plays or defense played, think of the all star game. Obviously they're the most talented on the planet but that's not competitive basketball. I don't think its where you want an immature prep player to develop, people like the idea of usurping the NCAA but there is zero equivalence as far as competitive basketball goes.

[ShootingtheJ]

So? Did you even read my post?

Something something not competitive basketball because something something players that suck in the NBA have done well there because something something reasons so college is way better

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yeah this isnt a serious post, do you feel stupid?

Gleague is just garbage summer league tier basketball and the main reason a prep player would go that route is because they can’t qualify. Pound the ball isos and very little defense, nobody runs plays or cares about winning.

You've never watched the Ignite. They are defense first, with lots of ball movement.

[raysbookclub]

Quoting another guy who chose a non-college route: Bucks in Six.

[machu46]

The best players in college are better than the ones in the g league are they not? Why aren’t they getting pick #1 then?

The majority of G League players aren't draft cantidates though. They are grown-ass men and hardened professionals.

If your point is that there's more talent and potential in the NCAA. Absolutely. There's literally thousands of draft eligible 18-22 year olds plying their trade there. They rightfully see college ball as a great platform and development tool. The NCAA is still a colossus, it stands to reason that the majority of the best young talent still comes through this pathway.

Still, put the best college teams against a pro team from more or less any fully professional league, G League included, and they would be exposed for what they are; kids. The G League is a higher standard of competition than college and its not even close.

This isn't a video game where you sort everybody by imaginary skill points, competitive basketball actually involves competing. The gatorade league is more like guys working out individually and playing pick up basketball, the "hardened" professionals they're playing with are mostly wash out scrubs desperate to get theirs & be picked up anywhere and as soon as possible. There isn't plays or defense played, think of the all star game. Obviously they're the most talented on the planet but that's not competitive basketball. I don't think its where you want an immature prep player to develop, people like the idea of usurping the NCAA but there is zero equivalence as far as competitive basketball goes.

G League games don’t look anything like the all star game. They actually do all the things you say they don’t do. It sounds like you’re thinking of AAU basketball.


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