The Official Paolo Banchero Thread: 2022-2023 NBA Rookie of the Year

basketballRob · Post #181 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:13 pm

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #182 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:16 pm

It’s time to get behind this dude and see what a point forward looks like. Wasn’t super thrilled but it’s not Chet and I get the pick in the grand scheme of things.

FA will be very very interesting for this team. Need to see some 1 year shooters come in

basketballRob · Post #183 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:22 pm

Rafeal Barlow has had Paolo #1 for months. He had good predraft judgements of players last season.

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shadrock · Post #184 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:42 pm

Ironically im actually more in favor of us keeping Bamba now that weve drafted Paolo. He would be the perfect lob target for him, much like Mark Williams was at Duke. That 5 man who can rim run, block shots and catch lobs is more valuable now.

D12VCMagic · Post #185 » by **D12VCMagic** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:48 pm

shadrock wrote:Ironically im actually more in favor of us keeping Bamba now that weve drafted Paolo. He would be the perfect lob target for him, much like Mark Williams was at Duke. That 5 man who can rim run, block shots and catch lobs is more valuable now.

I actually agree. But the organization already handing out Mo’s number isn’t a good sign.

Skybox · Post #186 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:50 pm

TRoss hyped by the pick...could he be saved?

basketballRob · Post #187 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:51 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:
shadrock wrote:Ironically im actually more in favor of us keeping Bamba now that weve drafted Paolo. He would be the perfect lob target for him, much like Mark Williams was at Duke. That 5 man who can rim run, block shots and catch lobs is more valuable now.

I actually agree. But the organization already handing out Mo’s number isn’t a good sign.

Were we printing Paolo's number?

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magicfan217 · Post #188 » by **magicfan217** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:56 pm

pepe1991 wrote:One thing that confuses me is why so many smokescreens if you are first on the clock to draft?
Did they really think Houston will give them Green to move 2 spots up? Or unprotected pick? Stone, Houston GM, has been working for nba for 17 years on top positions, he ain't fool, buying off Segun for pretty much top 18 protected pick in far future is best example that he won't get fooled by smokescreens.

It's still very confusing why Magic didn't trade down for lesser return value ( and still drafted player they wanted).
It's still unclear why create all this drama about Banchero's workout if he was going to be your first overall pick?

It's still unclear why play Jabari Smith like complete fool and have him parading around Magic arena like they signed prime Hakeem/Jordan just to play him- like a fool on draft night?
Wtf was that with printing Banchero's name on number Bamba has , as guy is still RFA and in theory "your" player. That's a guy you spent 6th overall pick on just 4 years ago.

Just very,very confusing predraft time culminated into very confusing draft night.

If you want Paolo (and obviously we did) why wouldn't you let everyone believe you wanted Jabari? That way if someone (like the rockets) want Jabari they have to trade up with you to get him. I think it was pretty obvious that the rockets ALSO preferred Paolo and that's why there wasn't a trade.

The Effect · Post #189 » by **The Effect** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:03 pm

Why is everyone complaining about Paolo 3pt shooting as if he shot 25% or something? He was a 34% shooter and got better as the season went on

Dudes not a bad shooter, he just took some bad shots, that can be corrected

Will he be Steph with the 3, no... But he's not exactly Dwight Howard shooting 3s

MartinsIzAfraud · Post #190 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:04 pm

Skybox wrote:TRoss hyped by the pick...could he be saved?

pretty obvious he has 0 value to other teams so i'd say yeah he'll be saved until deadline when we get 2 2nd's and TPE

D12VCMagic · Post #191 » by **D12VCMagic** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:05 pm

The Effect wrote:Why is everyone complaining about Paolo 3pt shooting as if he shot 25% or something? He was a 34% shooter and got better as the season went on

Dudes not a bad shooter, he just took some bad shots, that can be corrected

Will he be Steph with the 3, no... But he's not exactly Dwight Howard shooting 3s

It’s worth noting that he was 29% from NBA distance. That’s definitely a bit concerning, especially when you already have the worst spacing in the league to begin with. I think Paolo can improve his shooting, but not very confident in the other guys.

Nyce_1 · Post #192 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:13 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:
shadrock wrote:Ironically im actually more in favor of us keeping Bamba now that weve drafted Paolo. He would be the perfect lob target for him, much like Mark Williams was at Duke. That 5 man who can rim run, block shots and catch lobs is more valuable now.

I actually agree. But the organization already handing out Mo’s number isn’t a good sign.

In a now-deleted tweet, the equipment manager said Mo was changing his number next season anyway. Indication that he'll be back.

tiderulz · Post #193 » by **tiderulz** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:14 pm

The Effect wrote:Why is everyone complaining about Paolo 3pt shooting as if he shot 25% or something? He was a 34% shooter and got better as the season went on

Dudes not a bad shooter, he just took some bad shots, that can be corrected

Will he be Steph with the 3, no... But he's not exactly Dwight Howard shooting 3s

because their favorite player wasnt chosen, so they want to tear it all down.

JBSouthpaw · Post #194 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:23 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:
The Effect wrote:Why is everyone complaining about Paolo 3pt shooting as if he shot 25% or something? He was a 34% shooter and got better as the season went on

Dudes not a bad shooter, he just took some bad shots, that can be corrected

Will he be Steph with the 3, no... But he's not exactly Dwight Howard shooting 3s

It’s worth noting that he was 29% from NBA distance. That’s definitely a bit concerning, especially when you already have the worst spacing in the league to begin with. I think Paolo can improve his shooting, but not very confident in the other guys.

How many did he shoot from NBA distance?
can you see in the data how many were contested?
He was 44-130 in 3s, he makes 2 more he's over 35%
Did have any end of the half/game chucks? shot clock run outs?

I'd say his shot isn't broken. I would have liked his FT % to be higher though as an indicator. BUT it was over 70%, so it wasn't awful.

magicfan217 · Post #195 » by **magicfan217** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:28 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
The Effect wrote:Why is everyone complaining about Paolo 3pt shooting as if he shot 25% or something? He was a 34% shooter and got better as the season went on

Dudes not a bad shooter, he just took some bad shots, that can be corrected

Will he be Steph with the 3, no... But he's not exactly Dwight Howard shooting 3s

It’s worth noting that he was 29% from NBA distance. That’s definitely a bit concerning, especially when you already have the worst spacing in the league to begin with. I think Paolo can improve his shooting, but not very confident in the other guys.

How many did he shoot from NBA distance?
can you see in the data how many were contested?
He was 44-130 in 3s, he makes 2 more he's over 35%
Did have any end of the half/game chucks? shot clock run outs?

I'd say his shot isn't broken. I would have liked his FT % to be higher though as an indicator. BUT it was over 70%, so it wasn't awful.

One thing people don't understand is just how small the sample size in one college basketball season really is. It's not even HALF of an NBA season.

j_n · Post #196 » by **j_n** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:30 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Most people are down on Banchero because ...: Fultz and Suggs ?

You kidding ,right? Because your team is really going anywhere with Reggie Jackson vol.2 and poor man Eric Bledsoe ?

For love of the God STOP overhyping Fultz into something he isn't . He was drafted 5 years ago. for half of a decade he continued to prove he ISN'T what he was proclaimed to be before draft .He is the worst first overall pick since Bennett. He is bust.
At apsolute best ,Fultz is your middle of the road- top 20 PG in nba. In way more realistic scenario, Fultz is overused T. J. McConnell /homeless Westbrook.
He isn't good defender, he can pass but he can't shoot from long range, he is forced to take mid range shots who are in general bad shots and there is nothing for him to do in modern offense if ball isn't in his hands. BUT he,himself, isn't good enough to have ball in his hands most of the time. So you are stuck between rock and hard place where you have to pander offense to him, and in same time he isn't THAT good where that's justified.

Fultz was injured for 3.5 years out of those 5, I hope you double down on these takes, you'll eat your words eventually, with or without his old form he will be an all star in the NBA.
Also, please stop making comparisons, really? TJ McConnell?

fateis007 · Post #197 » by **fateis007** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:31 pm

Honestly I think way to much is being made on his 3 point shot, because it's not as pure as Jabari's.

He isn't Shaq or Dwight Howard or Scottie Barnes out there, his form looks great, his release is nice, and the rotation on his shot is excellent.

You can not teach guys to be 6'11, 250lbs and handle the ball like a guard post college. It is very difficult. But you can teach them to improve their shot and consistency, we have seen it countless times before.

All he needs is a respectable shot from deep(he doesn't even need to do all that step back stuff) so teams don't completely sag off and it opens up his drive game and doesn't cause spacing issues.

All the mechanics are there, and he has a very fluid looking shot. I am sure spending the entire off season training with Mike Miller wont hurt either.

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MartinsIzAfraud · Post #198 » by **MartinsIzAfraud** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:31 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:
shadrock wrote:Ironically im actually more in favor of us keeping Bamba now that weve drafted Paolo. He would be the perfect lob target for him, much like Mark Williams was at Duke. That 5 man who can rim run, block shots and catch lobs is more valuable now.

I actually agree. But the organization already handing out Mo’s number isn’t a good sign.
In a now-deleted tweet, the equipment manager said Mo was changing his number next season anyway. Indication that he'll be back.

wouldn't be so sure about that.. if Bamba was changing his number then why are they selling Banchero 00 jersey numbers? Just sell Banchero 5 jerseys and be done with it.

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What's likely happening is they know Bamba won't be back (his agent has told them we don't want to be here etc etc) so his number is available and will go to Banchero. FA starts June 30th and by the time Banchero suits up Bamba will be gone. Anyone who purchased a 00 Banchero will get a #5 Banchero free of charge.

j_n · Post #199 » by **j_n** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:36 pm

pepe1991 wrote:One thing that confuses me is why so many smokescreens if you are first on the clock to draft?
Did they really think Houston will give them Green to move 2 spots up? Or unprotected pick? Stone, Houston GM, has been working for nba for 17 years on top positions, he ain't fool, buying off Segun for pretty much top 18 protected pick in far future is best example that he won't get fooled by smokescreens.

It's still very confusing why Magic didn't trade down for lesser return value ( and still drafted player they wanted).
It's still unclear why create all this drama about Banchero's workout if he was going to be your first overall pick?

It's still unclear why play Jabari Smith like complete fool and have him parading around Magic arena like they signed prime Hakeem/Jordan just to play him- like a fool on draft night?
Wtf was that with printing Banchero's name on number Bamba has , as guy is still RFA and in theory "your" player. That's a guy you spent 6th overall pick on just 4 years ago.

Just very,very confusing predraft time culminated into very confusing draft night.

How is that confusing? You make the other teams think you're taking their guy and hope they offer some value to move up while still getting your guy on a lower salary, how is that difficult to understand?
Sure, it didn't work at the end but if that was the play it was worth the try.

fateis007 · Post #200 » by **fateis007** » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:37 pm

j_n wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:One thing that confuses me is why so many smokescreens if you are first on the clock to draft?
Did they really think Houston will give them Green to move 2 spots up? Or unprotected pick? Stone, Houston GM, has been working for nba for 17 years on top positions, he ain't fool, buying off Segun for pretty much top 18 protected pick in far future is best example that he won't get fooled by smokescreens.

It's still very confusing why Magic didn't trade down for lesser return value ( and still drafted player they wanted).
It's still unclear why create all this drama about Banchero's workout if he was going to be your first overall pick?

It's still unclear why play Jabari Smith like complete fool and have him parading around Magic arena like they signed prime Hakeem/Jordan just to play him- like a fool on draft night?
Wtf was that with printing Banchero's name on number Bamba has , as guy is still RFA and in theory "your" player. That's a guy you spent 6th overall pick on just 4 years ago.

Just very,very confusing predraft time culminated into very confusing draft night.

How is that confusing? You make the other teams think you're taking their guy and hope they offer some value to move up while still getting your guy on a lower salary, how is that difficult to understand?
Sure, it didn't work at the end but if that was the play it was worth the try.

It means they wanted Paolo the entire time, and so did Houston and they weren't able create a trade down or they would have.