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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#261 » by Jfh20 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:48 am

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what did lebron win before he came to miami heat?


IS there anyone in NBA winning with teammates like LArry Hughes, PAvlovic, Varejo, Gibson... including Jordan? Those players apart from Lebron are not enough to get a player like peak Klay Thomson in a trade. Your logic is completely absurd...

LEbron beating Detroit(the team who would beat LA) and playinb finals is a far better acommplishment than Durant winning two titles after joining 73-9 GSW.


lol he lost to dirk n the mavs even with wade and bosh. keep making excuses. he got over the hump because heat culture and good coaching. no one appreciates what the heat did for this guy, its sad really. riley should have let him stay in cleveland and stay ringless.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#262 » by Jfh20 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:51 am

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If Irving can walk away from Bron, what makes you think he will kneel to an old fart like UD?


look.. i appreciate the concern... but the heat organization will deal with irving.. we will teach him Heat culture, and in turn will end in a couple of ships for all. Kyrie is already a champ, but we will take him to the next level... just like we took lebron to the next level... Lebron was a career loser, til he came to miami, and we made him a champ. Its wat we do in south beach.

LOL. Lebron took one of the worst rosters ever to the finals before coming to Miami


only to get swept and made to look stupid by the spurs dynasty.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#263 » by Jfh20 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:54 am

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what did lebron win before he came to miami heat?


LeBron has more titles without the Heat than the Heat have without LeBron.. lol


well ya... he did build another superteam in cle, than tampered and did a backdoor deal to steal AD from pelicans. easy to win titles building superteams, try doing what giannis did , and win a "legit" title for once. oh right he tried, and got humbled by the spurs.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#264 » by TheLand13 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:09 pm

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what did lebron win before he came to miami heat?


LeBron has more titles without the Heat than the Heat have without LeBron.. lol


well ya... he did build another superteam in cle, than tampered and did a backdoor deal to steal AD from pelicans. easy to win titles building superteams, try doing what giannis did , and win a "legit" title for once. oh right he tried, and got humbled by the spurs.


I will never understand idiotic posts like these.

Those are legitimate titles. What Giannis did doesn't make his title anymore special than LeBron's.
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Post#265 » by Homer38 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:37 pm

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Post#266 » by CeltsfaninDC » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:53 pm

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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#267 » by og15 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:56 pm

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what did lebron win before he came to miami heat?


LeBron has more titles without the Heat than the Heat have without LeBron.. lol


well ya... he did build another superteam in cle, than tampered and did a backdoor deal to steal AD from pelicans. easy to win titles building superteams, try doing what giannis did , and win a "legit" title for once. oh right he tried, and got humbled by the spurs.

So when he won with Miami with a super team, it was the Heat culture teaching him, but when he won in other places it was because his team was very good.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#268 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:06 pm

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He're the problem with the go to LA for $6mil thinking. Why not just pick up your $37mil option, play with KD one more year & then go get your full max from LA next year? Why risk $31mil, plus risk that things don't go smoothly in LA & change their minds? Or Lebron walks & LA decides to rebuild?
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He're the problem with the go to LA for $6mil thinking. Why not just pick up your $37mil option, play with KD one more year & then go get your full max from LA next year? Why risk $31mil, plus risk that things don't go smoothly in LA & change their minds? Or Lebron walks & LA decides to rebuild?



I agree but Kyrie is so weird.....
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#270 » by Tacoma » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:42 pm

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we dont accept that in miami... he will buy into to heat culture, or he will be pummelled by UD.


If Irving can walk away from Bron, what makes you think he will kneel to an old fart like UD?


look.. i appreciate the concern... but the heat organization will deal with irving.. we will teach him Heat culture, and in turn will end in a couple of ships for all. Kyrie is already a champ, but we will take him to the next level... just like we took lebron to the next level... Lebron was a career loser, til he came to miami, and we made him a champ. Its wat we do in south beach.



Kyrie hadn't made the playoffs until he rode LeBron's coattails, then thinking he was all that, left LeBron then apologized to LeBron while calling out his Boston teammates and then apologized again saying "I should have kept it in house." He then left for BKN whereupon he took multiple personal days off citing among other reasons, "I just don’t wanna play." Then there was the whole anti-vax & missing games thing which led to Harden demanding a trade, royally screwing Durant, his BFF, in the process.

Kyrie is a wrecking ball. Butler is super-intensive. demands team over individual and calls out BS. Unless "Heat culture" is a pill version of a lobotomy, I don't see a realistic scenario wherein Kyrie's personality changes and he turns into a team player.
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Post#271 » by Karate Diop » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:45 pm

Listen I respect Shams for the grind he had to do to come up. But dude ain't been hot in a minute. Woj was runn'in circles around him yesterday.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#272 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:49 pm

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Broussard with one of the worst takes I've heard at 2:42

Trading Kyrie to Philly for Harden? What? Absolute nonsense
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Post#273 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:51 pm

Karate Diop wrote:Listen I respect Shams for the grind he had to do to come up. But dude ain't been hot in a minute. Woj was runn'in circles around him yesterday.

They've both sold out and have become pawns. Shams spews the agent/player narrative (especially Klutch), and Woj spews the team narratives. Yesterday was fairly comical. You had Woj spewing the player side early since the Nets were not engaging in the media posturing, then all of a sudden Woj's messaging completely pivoted. It's obvious the Nets front office had enough & started to provide their own spin.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#274 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:58 pm

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Broussard with one of the worst takes I've heard at 2:42

Trading Kyrie to Philly for Harden? What? Absolute nonsense

Kyrie is the one that put Philly on his list. Everybody is still laughing at the thought of a Kyrie+Harden reunion. That being said, the Harris+Maxey package he floats is the most sensical package possible from any of the teams on Kyrie's wish list. Westbrook doesn't get it done. Lowry+Herro isn't worthwhile for the Nets.

At the end of the day, Kyrie is stuck. He wants a full, 5 year max, but has no market. He can take the 2 max years the Nets are offering, he can opt in to one year at a bit less than the max, and hope for a trade and extension (4 year limit) or hit FA again and hope for better luck next year.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#275 » by TheGOATWill » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:09 pm

Kyrie is the hot, crazy girl who hasn't realized her crazy has exceeded her hotness. Everyone let is slide in her 20s but not having it post 30. Spoiler, those chicks usually end up in handcuffs.
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#276 » by levon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:10 pm

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Broussard with one of the worst takes I've heard at 2:42

Trading Kyrie to Philly for Harden? What? Absolute nonsense

Kyrie is the one that put Philly on his list. Everybody is still laughing at the thought of a Kyrie+Harden reunion. That being said, the Harris+Maxey package he floats is the most sensical package possible from any of the teams on Kyrie's wish list. Westbrook doesn't get it done. Lowry+Herro isn't worthwhile for the Nets.

At the end of the day, Kyrie is stuck. He wants a full, 5 year max, but has no market. He can take the 2 max years the Nets are offering, he can opt in to one year at a bit less than the max, and hope for a trade and extension (4 year limit) or hit FA again and hope for better luck next year.

I disagree that Kyrie's stuck. I think even if he takes a dump on Sean Marks' desk, the Lakers and Knicks will still try to sign him next year. So it's more of a question of if the Nets want anything back, what they want back, and how this all impacts their relationship with KD. If they're draconian with Kyrie, it might push KD out too as a depressed asset. This idea that NBA front offices have leverage in these situations has been debunked like ten years ago. Talented superstars almost never get traded for equal value, and the stink around it always becomes unbearable.
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Post#278 » by levon » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:48 pm

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Post#279 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:17 pm

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what did lebron win before he came to miami heat?


LeBron has more titles without the Heat than the Heat have without LeBron.. lol
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Re: Shams: Kyrie Irving, Nets are at impasse in conversations about his future in Brooklyn 

Post#280 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:29 pm

TheGOATWill wrote:Kyrie is the hot, crazy girl who hasn't realized her crazy has exceeded her hotness. Everyone let is slide in her 20s but not having it post 30. Spoiler, those chicks usually end up in handcuffs.


I feel like we need pictures :lol:

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