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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#641 » by twolves31 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:46 pm

life_saver wrote:I have never seen Wendell Moore play but looking at his draft profile and his college stats, he doesn't look just a spotup shooter guy but rather someone who can also share ball handling duties. That's what intrigues me about him.


You haven't watched a Duke game in 3 years?
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#642 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:51 pm

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Yeah. The 2023 Second Round pick of the Knicks will fix all of our PF issues this season.


You think we won't do anything else till opening day?


I’m sure we will make some kind of move but I don’t think anyone will have the two way fit Liddell does. Guess we have to have faith. Maybe it was trying to follow the moves online, but draft was pretty meh in my opinion.

For some reason we don't understand NBA teams were totally underwhelmed with Liddell.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#643 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:53 pm

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life_saver wrote:I have never seen Wendell Moore play but looking at his draft profile and his college stats, he doesn't look just a spotup shooter guy but rather someone who can also share ball handling duties. That's what intrigues me about him.


You haven't watched a Duke game in 3 years?

I haven't.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#644 » by life_saver » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:58 pm

twolves31 wrote:
life_saver wrote:I have never seen Wendell Moore play but looking at his draft profile and his college stats, he doesn't look just a spotup shooter guy but rather someone who can also share ball handling duties. That's what intrigues me about him.


You haven't watched a Duke game in 3 years?

I don't watch college basketball. I think I might have watched maybe a total 2-3 games over last 4 years
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#645 » by Note30 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:03 pm

karch34 wrote:
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Yeah. The 2023 Second Round pick of the Knicks will fix all of our PF issues this season.


You think we won't do anything else till opening day?


I’m sure we will make some kind of move but I don’t think anyone will have the two way fit Liddell does. Guess we have to have faith. Maybe it was trying to follow the moves online, but draft was pretty meh in my opinion.


I mean the current thought process seems to be two big lineups, that is what Connelly put together in Denver until Aaron Gordon.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#646 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:05 pm

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Thanks for the link. For better or worse Connelly is a very different kind of guy.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#647 » by MN7725 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:14 pm

Note30 wrote:
karch34 wrote:
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You think we won't do anything else till opening day?


I’m sure we will make some kind of move but I don’t think anyone will have the two way fit Liddell does. Guess we have to have faith. Maybe it was trying to follow the moves online, but draft was pretty meh in my opinion.


I mean the current thought process seems to be two big lineups, that is what Connelly put together in Denver until Aaron Gordon.


to a point

Millsap was quite skilled offensively and versatile defender until he got too old, and before that Faried who was a big in terms of skillset but fairly undersized and mobile

not quite the same as having two of KAT/Reid/WK playing together
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#648 » by minimus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:30 pm

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Krapinsky wrote:I finally figured out who Kessler reminds me of. For longest time I couldn’t put my finger on it.

Cole Aldrich.


Let’s say the floor is Aldrich and the hope is Gobert as a ceiling. The truth is somewhere in between. For our sake let’s pray the ceiling is closer than the floor.


He’s not Gobert. He’s big, but Gobert has freakish (Mark Williams) length.

If his floor is Aldrich, I’d say his ceiling is Jakob Poetl, who is a very good regular season center. Defensive big. Limited scoring or passing.

I could see later career Brook Lopez if he really does develop a three point shot. I don’t know though. Lopez was a stud scorer in college, showing great touch, which translated later in career to shooting ability. I don’t know Kessler ever showed this kinda touch and only shot a little over 50% on FTs.

At 22, if you get Poetl, you take it and run. Longterm rotation big.


My ideal development path for Kessler is to become our version of Bogut. Bogut was considered as top offensive prospect before got seriously injured (arm, shoulder, legaments). After injuries he developed passing game and morphed into tough, both physically and mentally defender, who does all little things like good screens, commit hard fouls etc. I actually believe that Bogut was one of underrated reason why GSW has been successful. He was a mentor for Green, he was an ideal big for Curry and Klay.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#649 » by Krapinsky » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:38 pm

jpatrick wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:I finally figured out who Kessler reminds me of. For longest time I couldn’t put my finger on it.

Cole Aldrich.


Let’s say the floor is Aldrich and the hope is Gobert as a ceiling. The truth is somewhere in between. For our sake let’s pray the ceiling is closer than the floor.


He’s not Gobert. He’s big, but Gobert has freakish (Mark Williams) length.

If his floor is Aldrich, I’d say his ceiling is Jakob Poetl, who is a very good regular season center. Defensive big. Limited scoring or passing.

I could see later career Brook Lopez if he really does develop a three point shot. I don’t know though. Lopez was a stud scorer in college, showing great touch, which translated later in career to shooting ability. I don’t know Kessler ever showed this kinda touch and only shot a little over 50% on FTs.

At 22, if you get Poetl, you take it and run. Longterm rotation big.


I think his most likely case is Aldrich. Other names that come to mind: Marcus Camby, Alex Len, Cauley Stein, Timofey Mozgov?

Poertl is a different type of player. He was more polished offensively. A low-post back to the basket guy that you could post up and score. He also wasn't the shot blocker/rim protector that Kessler is (or Aldrich was for that matter).

And Rudy Gobert is in a different stratosphere physically and athletically. There is no comparison in my mind.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#650 » by SmokeyPaw » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:46 pm

All in all I'm happy with our night. If you'd told me before the draft that I could have Moore and Kessler, or take my chances at 19, I'd taken Moore and Kessler.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#651 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:46 pm

minimus wrote:My ideal development path for Kessler is to become our version of Bogut. Bogut was considered as top offensive prospect before got seriously injured (arm, shoulder, legaments). After injuries he developed passing game and morphed into tough, both physically and mentally defender, who does all little things like good screens, commit hard fouls etc. I actually believe that Bogut was one of underrated reason why GSW has been successful. He was a mentor for Green, he was an ideal big for Curry and Klay.

There it is. That's the comparison. I know we're talking a later-life Bogut who was a little more limited, but that's maybe the best comparison we're going to find for him.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#652 » by Nick K » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:01 pm

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minimus wrote:Congrats, we got Kessler!


KGB you owe us a selfie in your brand new Kessler Jersey.

Just kidding. Really hope you got this one right. Definitely not the sexy pick that many hoped for, but if sexy winning-basketball will make up for it, everyboy's happy...

If two of our four selections become usefull rotational Player, this was a good draft. The problem, that we had within the last years was, that we didn't get enough sustainable talent (Patton, Okogie, last years pickless draft). That really bite our talentlevel.

A warm Welcome to the new Pupps!

I'm having that Kessler Jersey custom made right now. Real 24 carat gold trim :lol: . Honestly I don't own a Wolves Jersey right now and I suppose I'm shallow as Ant and KAT would be my top 2 choices. I'm so sick of us getting bullied in the paint that I really like the idea of Kessler to stop that. Hopefully he will live up to my expectations. Do you remember Pekovic? It was so awesome having him. Nobody would mess with us. Now he's an enforcer for the mob. Seriously.


I can hear Pek right now....I keel you.

And he would.

Kessler gives us an exciting new dimension. The talk of Kessler not being able to play with Kat is sheer nonsense. Let's pound small ball inside and punish them. Let those little guys drive to the basket and see their shots batted away. This should be fun.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#653 » by NebWolvesFan » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:02 pm

Klomp wrote:
minimus wrote:My ideal development path for Kessler is to become our version of Bogut. Bogut was considered as top offensive prospect before got seriously injured (arm, shoulder, legaments). After injuries he developed passing game and morphed into tough, both physically and mentally defender, who does all little things like good screens, commit hard fouls etc. I actually believe that Bogut was one of underrated reason why GSW has been successful. He was a mentor for Green, he was an ideal big for Curry and Klay.

There it is. That's the comparison. I know we're talking a later-life Bogut who was a little more limited, but that's maybe the best comparison we're going to find for him.


I'm still holding out hope that he becomes late-career Brook Lopez.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#654 » by minimus » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:06 pm

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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#655 » by Nick K » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:08 pm

winforlose wrote:So quick disclaimer, I don’t watch college ball and I did not read to much about the draft class or any specific player for the draft.

1. Kessler could become our Rudy Gobert. A rim protecting big with good hands and decent steal capability is huge for us. When teams double KAT Kessler will get uncontested dunks, when they don’t KAT will drive in and either dump off to Kessler for Dunks or slam it himself. We have Twin Towers and KAT can finally move to PF. Moreover, it sounds like Kessler might be good enough on the boards to allow V8 to the bench. Starting MCD is a good idea only if he gets his fouling under control. If not bring V8 or Nowell to the starting unit and play either huge ball or slightly small.

2. Moore sounds like he is our JO replacement. A 3&D guy who might run point sounds like what we wanted from Culver. Even if he is SG/SF hybrid he still adds a ton of value if he can defend point of attack or even just stay in front and attack passing lanes for transition offense. If he can shoot 38% from 3 with decent attempt volume and play above average defense we got a home run player. If he shoots 36% from 3 and plays above average multipositonal defense, we got an inside the park home run.

3. Minott seems like a V8 type player. Nothing wrong with a transition minded defensive player with issues to be corrected by coaching staff and working with vets. Seems like a project, but at 45 most guys will.

Looking forward to summer league.

P.S. 22 and 26 for 19 and 3 future seconds is a seriously impressive debut. I don’t want to jinx it, but we might have for the first time ever in Minnesota a good front office to go along with an excellent coach.


winforlose....you so totally get it. We had a great draft considering we just had 1 #19 pick. I would have taken either one at 19 but we ended up getting both guys. I think i'll like Moore better than Beasley. The kid can shoot too. All around better player is my guess.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#656 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:19 pm

Krapinsky wrote:
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winforlose wrote:
Let’s say the floor is Aldrich and the hope is Gobert as a ceiling. The truth is somewhere in between. For our sake let’s pray the ceiling is closer than the floor.


He’s not Gobert. He’s big, but Gobert has freakish (Mark Williams) length.

If his floor is Aldrich, I’d say his ceiling is Jakob Poetl, who is a very good regular season center. Defensive big. Limited scoring or passing.

I could see later career Brook Lopez if he really does develop a three point shot. I don’t know though. Lopez was a stud scorer in college, showing great touch, which translated later in career to shooting ability. I don’t know Kessler ever showed this kinda touch and only shot a little over 50% on FTs.

At 22, if you get Poetl, you take it and run. Longterm rotation big.


I think his most likely case is Aldrich. Other names that come to mind: Marcus Camby, Alex Len, Cauley Stein, Timofey Mozgov?

Poertl is a different type of player. He was more polished offensively. A low-post back to the basket guy that you could post up and score. He also wasn't the shot blocker/rim protector that Kessler is (or Aldrich was for that matter).

And Rudy Gobert is in a different stratosphere physically and athletically. There is no comparison in my mind.

I want to officially go on record as you are underrating Kessler.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#657 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:21 pm

SmokeyPaw wrote:All in all I'm happy with our night. If you'd told me before the draft that I could have Moore and Kessler, or take my chances at 19, I'd taken Moore and Kessler.

Good way of looking at it.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#658 » by Calinks » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:30 pm

I am really excited that we are signaling we are going big. We have not tried to play KAT with other bigs enough. I am so very tired of the small ball BS. I love that we took Kessler, I hope we continue to explore being a big team. If KAT isn't the biggest guy on the floor for us and we find a way to still play him and make him a focal point, I think that is a disaster for other teams.

We could get someone protecting the paint, getting boards, catching lobs, meanwhile, Towns is terrorizing them from everywhere else. Imagine KAt taking more three's and being confident someone else will get a board. Imagine KAT attacking and not having to worry about freaking Gobert or someone just waiting for him at the rim. Imagine Brandon Clarke trying to fly up for his 317th offensive board and a 7 footer in a wolves uniform just bodies his ass and takes the ball.

It was infuriating watching our bigs get outrebounded by guards and wings in big games.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#659 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:37 pm

Nick K wrote:
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KGB you owe us a selfie in your brand new Kessler Jersey.

Just kidding. Really hope you got this one right. Definitely not the sexy pick that many hoped for, but if sexy winning-basketball will make up for it, everyboy's happy...

If two of our four selections become usefull rotational Player, this was a good draft. The problem, that we had within the last years was, that we didn't get enough sustainable talent (Patton, Okogie, last years pickless draft). That really bite our talentlevel.

A warm Welcome to the new Pupps!

I'm having that Kessler Jersey custom made right now. Real 24 carat gold trim :lol: . Honestly I don't own a Wolves Jersey right now and I suppose I'm shallow as Ant and KAT would be my top 2 choices. I'm so sick of us getting bullied in the paint that I really like the idea of Kessler to stop that. Hopefully he will live up to my expectations. Do you remember Pekovic? It was so awesome having him. Nobody would mess with us. Now he's an enforcer for the mob. Seriously.


I can hear Pek right now....I keel you.

And he would.

Kessler gives us an exciting new dimension. The talk of Kessler not being able to play with Kat is sheer nonsense. Let's pound small ball inside and punish them. Let those little guys drive to the basket and see their shots batted away. This should be fun.

The biggest toughest bullies in the NBA would just bounce off him like he was a brick wall. They'd come out of the game bruised and in need of recovery time. I'd have loved to see Embiid trying his crap against prime Pek.

Kessler of course is not as tough as Pek, but he is tall and looonnnnggggg. He is going to alter and swat a lot of shots. Let the Ja Morant's of the NBA take it to the rim and see how little success they have.
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Re: 2022 Draft night thread 

Post#660 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:40 pm

Calinks wrote:I am really excited that we are signaling we are going big. We have not tried to play KAT with other bigs enough. I am so very tired of the small ball BS. I love that we took Kessler, I hope we continue to explore being a big team. If KAT isn't the biggest guy on the floor for us and we find a way to still play him and make him a focal point, I think that is a disaster for other teams.

We could get someone protecting the paint, getting boards, catching lobs, meanwhile, Towns is terrorizing them from everywhere else. Imagine KAt taking more three's and being confident someone else will get a board. Imagine KAT attacking and not having to worry about freaking Gobert or someone just waiting for him at the rim. Imagine Brandon Clarke trying to fly up for his 317th offensive board and a 7 footer in a wolves uniform just bodies his ass and takes the ball.

It was infuriating watching our bigs get outrebounded by guards and wings in big games.

That number seemed about right. I never want to see anything resembling that again.

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