2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN)

[themoneyteam2]

Saw a lot of teams improve tonight, some dramatically, either via draft picks, trades or cap space for FA. Not us. We’ve definitely dropped several slots in the talent rankings. The bottom feeders are closing the gap. You can’t just piss away draft picks on guys like White and Davidson while your rivals add starting level talent

Ahhh yes because the 53rd pick is surely going to make or break this roster and team with their top 10 rotation guys coming back!

[flintsky21]

It seems the failures of Nesmith ang Langford have greatly scarred the Celtics that they just don't want anything to do with a 1st rd pick going forward.

[BostonCouchGM]

Saw a lot of teams improve tonight, some dramatically, either via draft picks, trades or cap space for FA. Not us. We’ve definitely dropped several slots in the talent rankings. The bottom feeders are closing the gap. You can’t just piss away draft picks on guys like White and Davidson while your rivals add starting level talent

Ahhh yes because the 53rd pick is surely going to make or break this roster and team with their top 10 rotation guys coming back!

Yes, because the #53 pick is ALL I was talking about...oh wait, I literally mentioned White and cap space as well...weird that. Did I say it'd "make or break us" stalker? Reading comprehension is your friend.

Players we could have drafted in the first round if we didn't make the White trade:

Moore
Washington
Jovic
Baldwin
Koloko
Jaylin Williams
Procida
Hardy
Liddell
Brown
Spagnolo

and others

We ran our starters into the ground because of our lack of talent on the bench and it may have cost us a championship. Most of the above players have a chance to be as good or better than White and certainly better than Theis, Fitts, Morgan and Stauskas and would be cheaper and cost-controlled.

[Parliament10]

Saw a lot of teams improve tonight, some dramatically, either via draft picks, trades or cap space for FA. Not us. We’ve definitely dropped several slots in the talent rankings. The bottom feeders are closing the gap. You can’t just piss away draft picks on guys like White and Davidson while your rivals add starting level talent

Ahhh yes because the 53rd pick is surely going to make or break this roster and team with their top 10 rotation guys coming back!

Yes, because the #53 pick is ALL I was talking about...oh wait, I literally mentioned White and cap space as well...weird that. Did I say it'd "make or break us" stalker? Reading comprehension is your friend.

Players we could have drafted in the first round if we didn't make the White trade:

Moore
Washington
Jovic
Baldwin
Koloko
Jaylin Williams
Procida
Hardy
Liddell
Brown
Spagnolo

and others

We ran our starters into the ground because of our lack of talent on the bench and it may have cost us a championship. Most of the above players have a chance to be as good or better than White and certainly better than Theis, Fitts, Morgan and Stauskas and would be cheaper and cost-controlled.

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[165bows]

3 other things I'll say about davison is this.

1) he's a ball mover.

definitely not an iso guy. doesn't take the air out of the ball. plays fast, plays with pace. on both ends of the floor is pesky, really keeping the pressure on the opposing team on both ends (kind of like derrick white and we know the team loves him). davison is a good passer, sees the floor well, good at setting teammates up for scores. makes quick decisions with the ball.

might not always make the right decision with the ball, but he is decisive, not hesitant with it.

2) when you take into account how fast he is, how athletic and explosive and then you add to the the fact that one of his biggest weaknesses as a freshman was turning it over too much. What do those 2 things tell you?
a) he just needs the game to slow down, needs more reps, more development which he will get, he's only 19 but
b) more importantly, it tells you that he is going to be MUCH better with NBA spacing. You watch a lot of the turnovers he had last season at alabama, it's when the floor was too crowded, too condensed, poor spacing. everyone says how jaden ivey is gonna be a monster with better spacing in the NBA compared to college. well, same thing might happen for Davison. what was jaden ivey's biggest weakness this season at purdue? getting in trouble on some of his drives and turning it over.

3) i had so much fun last sumemr watching his HS film on youtube. At one point pre-season i had him ranked #7 on my draft board.

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We drafted a girl? No wonder he fell, thought they were featuring his mother in his hype videos.

Gonna have to watch these later.

[Patsfan1081]

Saw a lot of teams improve tonight, some dramatically, either via draft picks, trades or cap space for FA. Not us. We’ve definitely dropped several slots in the talent rankings. The bottom feeders are closing the gap. You can’t just piss away draft picks on guys like White and Davidson while your rivals add starting level talent

Ahhh yes because the 53rd pick is surely going to make or break this roster and team with their top 10 rotation guys coming back!

Yes, because the #53 pick is ALL I was talking about...oh wait, I literally mentioned White and cap space as well...weird that. Did I say it'd "make or break us" stalker? Reading comprehension is your friend.

Players we could have drafted in the first round if we didn't make the White trade:

Moore
Washington
Jovic
Baldwin
Koloko
Jaylin Williams
Procida
Hardy
Liddell
Brown
Spagnolo

and others

We ran our starters into the ground because of our lack of talent on the bench and it may have cost us a championship. Most of the above players have a chance to be as good or better than White and certainly better than Theis, Fitts, Morgan and Stauskas and would be cheaper and cost-controlled.

Most likely none of those players will even make a dent in the nba. Philly choose Shake Milton over drafting one of those guys, which is telling as he sucks. They havent lost ground when none of these kids has even stepped on the floor yet. Even in the lottery maybe 2/3 out of the fourteen become above average starters. Saying any of those guys is prob going to be better than White is just silly, how many second rounders from the past five drafts have looked near or close to White?

[Hal14]

It seems the failures of Nesmith ang Langford have greatly scarred the Celtics that they just don't want anything to do with a 1st rd pick going forward.

IDK, that might be a little bit of a factor. But in general, look at the teams who have played in the conference finals over the past 2 or 3 years. These contending teams aren't using 1st round picks - they're trading them for vets - that's why they're contenders.

And if you look at the 12 teams who have played in the conference finals over the past 3 years, how many of them had a rookie getting rotation minutes in the playoffs? I can think of 2, Cam Johnson from the suns and Herro from the heat. That might be it.

It's just the reality of the situation. Rebuilding teams use lots of 1st round picks. Contending teams don't.

[Half-Full]

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Brad said the cost of moving up in the draft was too high. Huh? The Fakers got the 35th pick for cash considerations and a future second round pick (2028). Don't know how much cash was involved, but enough to rule out a trade? Grizzlies, Pacers, and Hornets made similar trades. I guess there wasn't anybody that was really enticing to the Celtics that was projected to go before pick #53. Anyway, Davison has possibility. Celtics in no hurry to bring him along, and hopefully they can work on his weaknesses. Cutting down on turnovers for sure. Building strength. He's got athleticism and speed, and is only 19. Perhaps in 2-3 years we will see him contributing. Why not? He could prove to be a steal (glass half-full view )

[Curmudgeon]

For starters he needs to talk to Smart to see what he can do about his hair.

I like thaat he's quick with the ball. But I would have taken Nzosa, who went on the next pick.

[threrf23]

I thought the Magic should have taken Jaden Ivey. I feel like the Jaden/Jalen backcourt was meant to be, but the Magic had to go and **** with destiny.

[Wolverine44]

@Hal14
I will probably get killed for asking a 2023 draft question but who are NBA comps for Victor Wembanyama? how does his hype level coming into the draft compare to Zion, Luka for example?

[Curmudgeon]

Well, for all his flaws, Davison made plays against Gonzaga, one of the best teams in the country.

[Hal14]

@Hal14
I will probably get killed for asking a 2023 draft question but who are NBA comps for Victor Wembanyama? how does his hype level coming into the draft compare to Zion, Luka for example?

Hard to compare to Luka because he went #3 in the draft. He is definitely seen as the best prospect since Zion - and possibly better than Zion as a prospect.

He is similar to Chet Holmgren. Except:
a) Wembanyama is 2-3 inches taller than Chet and a year and 8 months younger than Chet while being just as good as Chet at everything
b) in terms of production like you look at the stats and chet was way better this season than victor but again, victor is a year and 8 months younger plus he is playing in france's top division, whereas chet played in a mid major conference

Bottom line - he's like chet (many see him as the best player in the 2022 nba draft) but 2-3 inches taller and a year and 8 months younger so could potentially be an absolute freak

BUT

because of how skinny he is, there will always be people who question whether he can handle the physicality of the NBA. so some people might rank him 2 or 3, or even 4. but the consensus opinion right now is he'll be the #1 pick in 2023.

[zoyathedestroya]

Is Rondo (2006) the last player Cs drafted outside the lottery that went on to become an all-star?

[Wolverine44]

@Hal14
I will probably get killed for asking a 2023 draft question but who are NBA comps for Victor Wembanyama? how does his hype level coming into the draft compare to Zion, Luka for example?

Hard to compare to Luka because he went #3 in the draft. He is definitely seen as the best prospect since Zion - and possibly better than Zion as a prospect.

He is similar to Chet Holmgren. Except:
a) Wembanyama is 2-3 inches taller than Chet and a year and 8 months younger than Chet while being just as good as Chet at everything
b) in terms of production like you look at the stats and chet was way better this season than victor but again, victor is a year and 8 months younger plus he is playing in france's top division, whereas chet played in a mid major conference

Bottom line - he's like chet (many see him as the best player in the 2022 nba draft) but 2-3 inches taller and a year and 8 months younger so could potentially be an absolute freak

BUT

because of how skinny he is, there will always be people who question whether he can handle the physicality of the NBA. so some people might rank him 2 or 3, or even 4. but the consensus opinion right now is he'll be the #1 pick in 2023.

Will Chet or Victor be the better pro, in your opinion ? Is there a consensus top 3 for next year?

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Hal14]

Is Rondo (2006) the last player Cs drafted outside the lottery that went on to become an all-star?

Rob is gonna be an all-star

[Hal14]

@Hal14
I will probably get killed for asking a 2023 draft question but who are NBA comps for Victor Wembanyama? how does his hype level coming into the draft compare to Zion, Luka for example?

Hard to compare to Luka because he went #3 in the draft. He is definitely seen as the best prospect since Zion - and possibly better than Zion as a prospect.

He is similar to Chet Holmgren. Except:
a) Wembanyama is 2-3 inches taller than Chet and a year and 8 months younger than Chet while being just as good as Chet at everything
b) in terms of production like you look at the stats and chet was way better this season than victor but again, victor is a year and 8 months younger plus he is playing in france's top division, whereas chet played in a mid major conference

Bottom line - he's like chet (many see him as the best player in the 2022 nba draft) but 2-3 inches taller and a year and 8 months younger so could potentially be an absolute freak

BUT

because of how skinny he is, there will always be people who question whether he can handle the physicality of the NBA. so some people might rank him 2 or 3, or even 4. but the consensus opinion right now is he'll be the #1 pick in 2023.

Will Chet or Victor be the better pro, in your opinion ? Is there a consensus top 3 for next year?

Victor will probably be the better pro. Teams are gonna be tanking for him.

Top of the draft next year looks loaded. Right now looks roughly like

1) Wembanyama
2) scoot henderson
3) amen thompson
4) ausar thompson
5) dariq whitehead
6) Kel'el Ware
7) Cam Whitmore

These guys are all freaks, in a good way of course haha

It's pretty crazy that identical twins could both go in the top 5.

[Hal14]

This gave me chills.

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Liddell is gonna be a really good NBA player. He's a steal that late in the draft.

[Wolverine44]

Hard to compare to Luka because he went #3 in the draft. He is definitely seen as the best prospect since Zion - and possibly better than Zion as a prospect.

He is similar to Chet Holmgren. Except:
a) Wembanyama is 2-3 inches taller than Chet and a year and 8 months younger than Chet while being just as good as Chet at everything
b) in terms of production like you look at the stats and chet was way better this season than victor but again, victor is a year and 8 months younger plus he is playing in france's top division, whereas chet played in a mid major conference

Bottom line - he's like chet (many see him as the best player in the 2022 nba draft) but 2-3 inches taller and a year and 8 months younger so could potentially be an absolute freak

BUT

because of how skinny he is, there will always be people who question whether he can handle the physicality of the NBA. so some people might rank him 2 or 3, or even 4. but the consensus opinion right now is he'll be the #1 pick in 2023.

Will Chet or Victor be the better pro, in your opinion ? Is there a consensus top 3 for next year?

Victor will probably be the better pro. Teams are gonna be tanking for him.

Top of the draft next year looks loaded. Right now looks roughly like

1) Wembanyama
2) scoot henderson
3) amen thompson
4) ausar thompson
5) dariq whitehead
6) Kel'el Ware
7) Cam Whitmore

These guys are all freaks, in a good way of course haha

It's pretty crazy that identical twins could both go in the top 5.

I appreciate the information. Do you like what OKC is building?