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What's the good word with Gary Harris?

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Re: What's the good word with Gary Harris? 

Post#21 » by jonbob17 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:14 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:Harris is not very good anymore, and hasn't been for a while. Let him walk. If we were going to take a chance on someone we could sign for cheap and move to a contender it should have been Otto Porter.

He'll probably get an MLE from a contender hoping he can still shoot and defend at an average level, which I guess last year qualifies as.
Definitely not worth blocking our young guys from minutes.

Harris was very good last season once he got in game shape. He struggled mightily in the first month or so, but after that he was our best guard by some margin for most of last season. From December 1st on he shot 41.3% from 3 on a decent volume, his TS% was 59.9, he played solid defense and he had the best net rating and on/off on the team. And he's still only 27. I'd definitely try to keep him if his salary demands are reasonable.



Harris ranked 9th on the team in Defensive win share, ahead of Ross. 12th in Defensive box +/-, that is not minute dependant, so there are a couple oddballs ahead of him
The On/off i am looking had him 4th
His net rating was -5.9, good for 7th on the team, a couple temp guys ahead of him so call it 5th.

Look at his DBP he's never had a remarkable season. He's an adequate defender at best. He's living off the reputation of two good offensive seasons where he had FG% of 48% and 50%. He was at 43% last year

He's not a bad defender, but he's not a plus one either. If you are shooting it ok like he did last year 38% that probably is good enough for a rotation spot somewhere.
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Re: What's the good word with Gary Harris? 

Post#22 » by Bergmaniac » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:01 pm

As I said, Harris had a very poor start of the season, he didn't look good physically at all, he couldn't make a layup to save his life against any sort of contest, he didn't move well on defense either. This early period tanked his overall stats somewhat, but once he got in match shape, which was around the start of December by my recollection, he became one of our top players and easily our best guard (which is a pretty lo bar, but still).

As for his defensive stats, most of these stats are pretty useless, especially for guards since there aren't really any boxscore stats for their defense. Cole had better win shares than him last season even though he is a traffic cone on defense. I didn't watch him much in Denver, but I distinctly recall him being a gamechanger defensively in the bubble playoffs. He was out in the first 5 games of the first round and their defense was a disaster, and it improved quite a bit after he came back. To my eyes he looked quite good defensively for us for most of the year.

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