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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1021 » by magicman123 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:28 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:GOOO PISTONS!!!

I am excited for my other favorite team. Even though I hate and trash Jennings, he does have great talent.

And, with Billups as his backup mentoring him along with Cheeks, this has to be a great thing.

Jennings
MCP
Josh Smith
Monroe
Drummond

Just give that a year or two to digest, then boom. Total domination. Pistons will also have like another $10 mil plus next year to spend to boot!!!


loads of talent, but that team is dumb :lol:
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Post#1022 » by OrlandO » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:38 pm

Good move for the Pistons... knight is garbage. Jennings is an upgrade even if he's not the star he thinks he's is. And Billups will try to put him in his place.
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Post#1023 » by Jiwol » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:41 pm

MellowRose wrote:lol, this isn't the 2k13 brandon jennings. dis is the real life jennings. the dude who shoots like below 40% fg.

don't see the pistons getting too far with him at the helm.

i do love drummond though

they've officially become a treadmill team imo


Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1024 » by MellowRose » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:51 pm

Jiwol wrote:
MellowRose wrote:lol, this isn't the 2k13 brandon jennings. dis is the real life jennings. the dude who shoots like below 40% fg.

don't see the pistons getting too far with him at the helm.

i do love drummond though

they've officially become a treadmill team imo


Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.


My point was that this doesn't help Detroit much and with this trade they've paved the road to mediocrity.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1025 » by The Real Dalic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:08 pm

The Pistons were already dangerous before this trade. Now they have to potential to be scary.
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Post#1026 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:14 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:GOOO PISTONS!!!

I am excited for my other favorite team. Even though I hate and trash Jennings, he does have great talent.

And, with Billups as his backup mentoring him along with Cheeks, this has to be a great thing.

Jennings
MCP
Josh Smith
Monroe
Drummond

Just give that a year or two to digest, then boom. Total domination. Pistons will also have like another $10 mil plus next year to spend to boot!!!

wat an Awful Line-up.
Jennings can only shoot bricks, MCP is an Unknown commodity and will start on the bench behind Stuckey, Josh Smith is Playing out of Position as a SF. the only 2 peices i like are Monroe and Drummond.
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Post#1027 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:15 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:The Pistons were already dangerous before this trade. Now they have to potential to be scary.

yep Scary Bad.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1028 » by OrlChamps2030 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:17 pm

MellowRose wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
MellowRose wrote:lol, this isn't the 2k13 brandon jennings. dis is the real life jennings. the dude who shoots like below 40% fg.

don't see the pistons getting too far with him at the helm.

i do love drummond though

they've officially become a treadmill team imo


Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.


My point was that this doesn't help Detroit much and with this trade they've paved the road to mediocrity.


Don't get me wrong - I am not a big fan of Josh Smith or Jennings. I place a lot of emphasis on efficiency. Not a huge fan of the fit but it will make them a playoff team...

But I'm not sure I would label them a treadmill team. They have movable assets. Monroe will get moved and holds a lot of value around the league. Jennings is only on a 8 mill per deal and can get moved as well if need be. Young players? Drummond WILL be a star. His potential is limitless. KCP IMO is probably one of the most underrated lotto picks of this past draft. Singler, despite being an old rook, had a nice year as well.

Not sure we can label them as a treadmill team before their young guys haven't even began to develop.. If the Pistons didn't have Drummond/KCP (or if I wasn't high on them esp. Drum) I would agree they are a treadmill team. But this is a team right now with a lot of movable pieces and young players in a weak eastern conference. The next James Harden/Dwight Howard/etc. situation that pops up I will expect them to be in talks like the Rockets.
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Post#1029 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:18 pm

Jiwol wrote:
MellowRose wrote:lol, this isn't the 2k13 brandon jennings. dis is the real life jennings. the dude who shoots like below 40% fg.

don't see the pistons getting too far with him at the helm.

i do love drummond though

they've officially become a treadmill team imo


Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.


well lets compare things here. Jennings is 23 on an 8 million/year deal or Knight whos 21 and on a 2.7 million or so deal this year. Knight has the same Upside Jennings got on a Better contract right now.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1030 » by OrlChamps2030 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:20 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
MellowRose wrote:lol, this isn't the 2k13 brandon jennings. dis is the real life jennings. the dude who shoots like below 40% fg.

don't see the pistons getting too far with him at the helm.

i do love drummond though

they've officially become a treadmill team imo


Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.


well lets compare things here. Jennings is 23 on an 8 million/year deal or Knight whos 21 and on a 2.7 million or so deal this year. Knight has the same Upside Jennings got on a Better contract right now.


Jenning is also two or three times better than Knight... Making Jennings an average to slightly above average starting PG :lol:
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Post#1031 » by The Real Dalic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:23 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:The Pistons were already dangerous before this trade. Now they have to potential to be scary.

yep Scary Bad.

I obviously disagree, but, we'll see.

Adding talented players like Smith and Jennings while having a leader like Billups could be a very good thing. Add on to that the fact that they have one of the better centers in the league in Monroe and having a very young, very good player in Drummond and you have the makings of a contender.
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Post#1032 » by Reverse_Angle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:24 pm

Just saw this, all-magic teams. pretty interesting to see some of the names.

http://www.nba.com/magic/cohen-8ball-al ... 713?page=0
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1033 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:24 pm

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Well, Jennings shot 39,9% and Knight shot 40,7%. Not that much of the difference and upside is rather on Jennings' side, ain't it? 8 mil per season is pretty accurate if you ask me. The trade was worth the risk for the Pistons.


well lets compare things here. Jennings is 23 on an 8 million/year deal or Knight whos 21 and on a 2.7 million or so deal this year. Knight has the same Upside Jennings got on a Better contract right now.


Jenning is also two or three times better than Knight... Making Jennings an average to slightly above average starting PG :lol:


Jennings isnt a Good Point Guard. he would be a SG in a PGs body cuz he cant get them dimes.

well than Nelson is an average to above average starter when healthy. should gave him to the Pistons for Knight straight up.

magic get worse at PG and thus allowing either Dipo or Knight to be our Main PG and the other be our SG. trade afflalo to a team for like a 1st next year. Play harkless at SF. Play Harris at PF. Vuc at center.

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Post#1034 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:25 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
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The Real Dalic wrote:The Pistons were already dangerous before this trade. Now they have to potential to be scary.

yep Scary Bad.

I obviously disagree, but, we'll see.

Adding talented players like Smith and Jennings while having a leader like Billups could be a very good thing. Add on to that the fact that they have one of the better centers in the league in Monroe and having a very young, very good player in Drummond and you have the makings of a contender.

Monroe wouldnt be Playing center unless they are having Drummond off the bench and Having ???? playing SF.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1035 » by OrlChamps2030 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:33 pm

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Zmill wrote:
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well lets compare things here. Jennings is 23 on an 8 million/year deal or Knight whos 21 and on a 2.7 million or so deal this year. Knight has the same Upside Jennings got on a Better contract right now.


Jenning is also two or three times better than Knight... Making Jennings an average to slightly above average starting PG :lol:


Jennings isnt a Good Point Guard. he would be a SG in a PGs body cuz he cant get them dimes.

well than Nelson is an average to above average starter when healthy. should gave him to the Pistons for Knight straight up.

magic get worse at PG and thus allowing either Dipo or Knight to be our Main PG and the other be our SG. trade afflalo to a team for like a 1st next year. Play harkless at SF. Play Harris at PF. Vuc at center.

Player development to the max.


I didn't say BJ is a good point guard... said he is average-to-slightly above average starting PG. Knight is a below-average starting PG. Only a two-year difference between the two. Detroit wants the playoffs.

Nelson is a 31 year old PG that is never healthy.

8mill per for 3 years is a nice deal for Jennings IMO. That is basically the going rate for average-ish starting PGs. I'm not a big fan of Jennings at all but this deal is more fair than what I thought he would get before the offseason started.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LX Offseason Edition) 

Post#1036 » by The Real Dalic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:33 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:yep Scary Bad.

I obviously disagree, but, we'll see.

Adding talented players like Smith and Jennings while having a leader like Billups could be a very good thing. Add on to that the fact that they have one of the better centers in the league in Monroe and having a very young, very good player in Drummond and you have the makings of a contender.

Monroe wouldnt be Playing center unless they are having Drummond off the bench and Having ???? playing SF.

Smith can play at SF and you could start one of Drummond or Monroe at PF and they will be fine. Either that or you'd have a great bench player in Drummond.

Also I said the making of a contender. They're not there yet, but with an SF who can start and maybe one more bench player they can get there.
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Post#1037 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:34 pm

I like this move for the Pistons. 8 mil a year for Jennings is a good deal.
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Post#1038 » by The Real Dalic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:35 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I like this move for the Pistons. 8 mil a year for Jennings is a good deal.

It's a great deal considering he wanted the max. I really thought a team would be dumb enough to give him one too.
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Post#1039 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:37 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:I obviously disagree, but, we'll see.

Adding talented players like Smith and Jennings while having a leader like Billups could be a very good thing. Add on to that the fact that they have one of the better centers in the league in Monroe and having a very young, very good player in Drummond and you have the makings of a contender.

Monroe wouldnt be Playing center unless they are having Drummond off the bench and Having ???? playing SF.

Smith can play at SF and you could start one of Drummond or Monroe at PF and they will be fine. Either that or you'd have a great bench player in Drummond.

Also I said the making of a contender. They're not there yet, but with an SF who can start and maybe one more bench player they can get there.
if Smith was any true goodness at SF im sure the Hawks would have Used him more there instead of whoever with Horford at PF and Zaza at C.

ill give a fair example. Dwight Used to be a PF. he out grew the Position a Bit and was Moved to center. same thing applies here with Josh Smith. he probably out grew the position and doesnt shoot it well enough from the outside or have much of a jump shot. i guess hed be a Post up SF but that doesnt make sense spacing wise with Drummond and Monroe.
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Post#1040 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:38 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I like this move for the Pistons. 8 mil a year for Jennings is a good deal.

It's a great deal considering he wanted the max. I really thought a team would be dumb enough to give him one too.
8 million for a 40% shooting Chucker hardly qualifies as a steal.
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