Tobias Harris Trade Thread

[sixers hoops]

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

In my opinion, Portland desperately needs a guy who reads books, so Tobias would be a great fit.

And let’s look at all-star selections:

CJ - 0
Tobias - 1 (according to himself)

No-brainer for Portland.

As the home of the Liberty Bell, PHI definitely needs more presidential talent, like the current president of the players association, the honorable CJ McCollum.

CJ - 1

PHI - 0

Truly a no brainer, plus he owns a vineyard and wine is classy as $%#{

Done deal.

[JRoy]

In my opinion, Portland desperately needs a guy who reads books, so Tobias would be a great fit.

And let’s look at all-star selections:

CJ - 0
Tobias - 1 (according to himself)

No-brainer for Portland.

As the home of the Liberty Bell, PHI definitely needs more presidential talent, like the current president of the players association, the honorable CJ McCollum.

CJ - 1

PHI - 0

Truly a no brainer, plus he owns a vineyard and wine is classy as $%#{

Done deal.

No brainer for PHI, but not for POR.

Pretty funny.

[SixersSince82]

I think Tobias is just a very solid player and provides a needed release valve for this team. Would I like him to be more efficient and a better/more willing 3pt shooter? Yes. But if you go back and watch the last 3 mins of game 7 last year, he was actually the best performer getting to the basket and scoring a couple clutch buckets before Thybulle fouled on the 3 pointer.

I gave him credit at the time for at least going down firing (Better than Bens disappearing act) but he shot 33% in game 7, and was 3-8 in the 4th quarter.

Totally agree that he needs to be better in those spots if he wants to make 30-40M a year. I think my frustration (and the point I’m trying to make) is that everyone is quick to attribute a lot of Embiid’s playoff struggles to Ben being a useless POS on offense but Tobias doesn’t get any of that benefit of the doubt.

Obviously, Embiid is a way better player and has his own unique storylines for his playoffs struggles but I think Tobias would also benefit from playing on a fully functional team with a real PG that puts him in positions to succeed.

I get the rationale.

If Tobias had been an all star on on other teams, or played well in the bubble playoffs (when ben was hurt) or if he stepped up last year when Doc began to make him the defacto "scorer" with the 2nd unit Id give your rationale some merit. But the dude has really never stepped up, so I dont see any reason to hold out hope for a 29 year old with 11 years of NBA experience under his belt. Honestly I believe more in Ben Simmons lol.

His style of play also just isn't really a good fit with Joel either. (neither is Bens)

[Foshan]

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

In my opinion, Portland desperately needs a guy who reads books, so Tobias would be a great fit.

And let’s look at all-star selections:

CJ - 0
Tobias - 1 (according to himself)

No-brainer for Portland.

As the home of the Liberty Bell, PHI definitely needs more presidential talent, like the current president of the players association, the honorable CJ McCollum.

CJ - 1

PHI - 0

Truly a no brainer, plus he owns a vineyard and wine is classy as $%#{

Nice This post has just vindicated your months of Harris/CJ forum stalking.

[mjkvol]

I just wish the Tobias for CJ trade would happen already. It makes too much sense for both teams - Portland has a glut at guard right now and younger, cheaper players ready to step into bigger roles, and for us it's the obvious.

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

Sorry I forgot the 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... countdown to your post shooting it down.

[JRoy]

In my opinion, Portland desperately needs a guy who reads books, so Tobias would be a great fit.

And let’s look at all-star selections:

CJ - 0
Tobias - 1 (according to himself)

No-brainer for Portland.

As the home of the Liberty Bell, PHI definitely needs more presidential talent, like the current president of the players association, the honorable CJ McCollum.

CJ - 1

PHI - 0

Truly a no brainer, plus he owns a vineyard and wine is classy as $%#{

Nice This post has just vindicated your months of Harris/CJ forum stalking.

Enjoy a glass of class with my compliments

[sixers4real]

Actually, I would not trade Harris for CJ at this point, trading him to Sacramento with Simmons seems the best option to me. I believe Morey can unload Hield and Barnes and have a clear cap space in the off-season of 2022 to have meeting with Harden and Lavine and sign one of them.

Having two max players (Embiid and Lavine/Harden) on the roster is such a Morey thing to do.

[mjkvol]

I just wish the Tobias for CJ trade would happen already. It makes too much sense for both teams - Portland has a glut at guard right now and younger, cheaper players ready to step into bigger roles, and for us it's the obvious.

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

In my opinion, Portland desperately needs a guy who reads books, so Tobias would be a great fit.

And let’s look at all-star selections:

CJ - 0
Tobias - 1 (according to himself)

No-brainer for Portland.

Post of the day nominee.

[the_process]

I just wish the Tobias for CJ trade would happen already. It makes too much sense for both teams - Portland has a glut at guard right now and younger, cheaper players ready to step into bigger roles, and for us it's the obvious.

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

Also you could use some more size and depth and scoring in the front court. I understand his contract is awful.

[JRoy]

I just wish the Tobias for CJ trade would happen already. It makes too much sense for both teams - Portland has a glut at guard right now and younger, cheaper players ready to step into bigger roles, and for us it's the obvious.

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

Also you could use some more size and depth and scoring in the front court. I understand his contract is awful.

We can get that without Tobias Harris.

[the_process]

It makes sense for PHI. It makes no sense for POR.

Harris gives POR nothing we need.

Also you could use some more size and depth and scoring in the front court. I understand his contract is awful.

We can get that without Tobias Harris.

Not while dumping CJ at the same time.

[JRoy]

Also you could use some more size and depth and scoring in the front court. I understand his contract is awful.

We can get that without Tobias Harris.

Not while dumping CJ at the same time.

Dumping CJ to pick up a guy who costs more without producing more doesn’t seem like a dump to me.

[Foshan]

We can get that without Tobias Harris.

Not while dumping CJ at the same time.

Dumping CJ to pick up a guy who costs more without producing more doesn’t seem like a dump to me.

Hey Jroy, since you are our resident POR expert have you guys tried/had any success running a:

CJ(or Simons)
Powell
RoCo
Nance
Nurik

With the continual 'we need rebounding/pf/defense' talk i see from POR fans, with Dame out (and cj out recently) has this type of line up been tried/produced any positive results?

[JRoy]

Not while dumping CJ at the same time.

Dumping CJ to pick up a guy who costs more without producing more doesn’t seem like a dump to me.

Hey Jroy, since you are our resident POR expert have you guys tried/had any success running a:

CJ(or Simons)
Powell
RoCo
Nance
Nurik

With the continual 'we need rebounding/pf/defense' talk i see from POR fans, with Dame out (and cj out recently) has this type of line up been tried/produced any positive results?

CJ hunts his own shot a bit too much as a primary ball handler and Simons has a shaky handle along with questionable bbiq to play pg. He’s best suited as catch and shoot with someone else playing pg.

In my opinion, CJ can do it and Simons cannot. At all.

Powell is solid on both enough on both ends and keeps the defense guessing with drives and jumpers.

RoCo has lost a step, I think he’s better at PF than sf, especially on defense. Remains an excellent team defender.

Nance is a solid athlete, plays above the rim, can get the occasional steal or deflection. Doesn’t get a lot of touches on offense. Pretty good passer, mediocre screener.

Nurk is a dynamite screener, solid passer, rebounder and defensive player but has to do a lot to compensate for **** defense from the guards.

[76ciology]

Might as well get someone who can play and have a better salary.

Tobias for Dame.

[Roy The Natural]

Dumping CJ to pick up a guy who costs more without producing more doesn’t seem like a dump to me.

Hey Jroy, since you are our resident POR expert have you guys tried/had any success running a:

CJ(or Simons)
Powell
RoCo
Nance
Nurik

With the continual 'we need rebounding/pf/defense' talk i see from POR fans, with Dame out (and cj out recently) has this type of line up been tried/produced any positive results?

CJ hunts his own shot a bit too much as a primary ball handler and Simons has a shaky handle along with questionable bbiq to play pg. He’s best suited as catch and shoot with someone else playing pg.

In my opinion, CJ can do it and Simons cannot. At all.

Powell is solid on both enough on both ends and keeps the defense guessing with drives and jumpers.

RoCo has lost a step, I think he’s better at PF than sf, especially on defense. Remains an excellent team defender.

Nance is a solid athlete, plays above the rim, can get the occasional steal or deflection. Doesn’t get a lot of touches on offense. Pretty good passer, mediocre screener.

Nurk is a dynamite screener, solid passer, rebounder and defensive player but has to do a lot to compensate for **** defense from the guards.

Your opinion on Simons unfortunately hasn't been factually or statistically backed though. The team has actually been playing very well with Simons playing PG duties. He's not a perfect PG, but he's actually one of the best P&R guards in the game currently and is creating good looks for others with his passing.

[JRoy]

Hey Jroy, since you are our resident POR expert have you guys tried/had any success running a:

CJ(or Simons)
Powell
RoCo
Nance
Nurik

With the continual 'we need rebounding/pf/defense' talk i see from POR fans, with Dame out (and cj out recently) has this type of line up been tried/produced any positive results?

CJ hunts his own shot a bit too much as a primary ball handler and Simons has a shaky handle along with questionable bbiq to play pg. He’s best suited as catch and shoot with someone else playing pg.

In my opinion, CJ can do it and Simons cannot. At all.

Powell is solid on both enough on both ends and keeps the defense guessing with drives and jumpers.

RoCo has lost a step, I think he’s better at PF than sf, especially on defense. Remains an excellent team defender.

Nance is a solid athlete, plays above the rim, can get the occasional steal or deflection. Doesn’t get a lot of touches on offense. Pretty good passer, mediocre screener.

Nurk is a dynamite screener, solid passer, rebounder and defensive player but has to do a lot to compensate for **** defense from the guards.

Your opinion on Simons unfortunately hasn't been factually or statistically backed though. The team has actually been playing very well with Simons playing PG duties. He's not a perfect PG, but he's actually one of the best P&R guards in the game currently and is creating good looks for others with his passing.

I’ve seen the numbers. The eye test looks very different to me.

I am not a Simons believer.

[phillynative]

Cj(meh)
Simons(meh)
Dame(cooked)
Powell (meh)
Nurk(meh)

[rzzzzz]

Meanwhile, over the past couple of games, Tobias has really snapped out of his funk. Not sure what got through to him, but he’s back to making quick decisions and decisive moves. Yeah, he’s way too expensive and all, but if he’s upping his game heading into the tail end of the season, and Daryl is not going to trade Ben for support of Jo MVP performance, maybe we shouldn’t be hell bent about moving Tobias at this particular moment.

[Kobblehead]

Meanwhile, over the past couple of games, Tobias has really snapped out of his funk. Not sure what got through to him, but he’s back to making quick decisions and decisive moves. Yeah, he’s way too expensive and all, but if he’s upping his game heading into the tail end of the season, and Daryl is not going to trade Ben for support of Jo MVP performance, maybe we shouldn’t be hell bent about moving Tobias at this particular moment.

I just don't trust the sustainability of any good bursts we see from Harris. His track record is that he's not going to shoot threes consistently and he's not going to make plays defensively consistently. Move him if you can, IMO.