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Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

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RJ
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Cam
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Culver
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Trade Down
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1141 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 19, 2019 12:16 am

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K-DOT wrote:Except Frank isn't a 3 and D player, he's just a defender

Yeah you hope his 3 pointer comes around, and I think it's not as far off as people suggest, but he's not a rotation player on a good team until it does, and that might be next year, 2 years from now, 3 years from now, and if we're trying to compete next year, having 4.5 mil tied up in his development is a hindrance more than anything


I wasn't referring to anyone in particular as neither shammy or Thug did. I thought we were speaking generically. They're out there.


They're talking about guys like Frank that aren't shooters

There's plenty of 3 + D guys out there, and plenty of bad defenders that shoot 3s, but not that many bad shooters that defend that get minutes on contenders any more


That's not what I read when I was responding if you'll go back and look at my original post. In any event, you giving up on Frank already? He "can't shoot"?

Frank's form is fine. Granted, he's struggled between having two head coaches in two years, complete turnover in the organization, leaving his home in France at 19, having no summer league or preseason his rookie year, being jerked around by Fizdale and then being injured most of the season.

Mechanically, Frank's jump shot is fine. It's his confidence. That's it. And it will eventually turn around. Look at Marcus Smart and Derrick Rose. I know there are others as well. Trust me, you'll be kicking yourself if we give up on Frank too early. Show some patience and it'll pay off.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1142 » by malik959 » Sun May 19, 2019 12:23 am

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Dare I say he brings a Donovan Mitchell level of intrigue :o

I know about the immaturity concerns and the issues he's had with the head coach but damn he's oozing with talent

Been hyping him up since last summer. If the Knicks decided to trade down for him I wouldn’t even be mad. Dude is a nasty scorer

When the season started I was always going back and forth between Cam and KP and felt that KP would be the next star.
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Post#1143 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 12:29 am

HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish

Would be a dope pick up for them but where did you hear that?
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Post#1144 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 12:32 am

Are we sleeping on Trier?
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1145 » by newyorker4ever » Sun May 19, 2019 12:32 am

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How I feel about the people tripping about the lottery after getting #3.


This video is stupid!

I don't know many fans who were actually bashing RJ the player or whoever lands at #3. The "tripping" came from us never getting a break for so long and getting SO CLOSE to finally being in the driver's seat (with #1) only to get disappointed yet again.

Sure, the #3 pick is still good and way better than #5 or anywhere else we could have landed. However, if I had a chance to win a $100 million grand prize but ended up only winning 3rd place with $1 million, of course, $1 million is still very good and better than nothing -- but I'm still gonna be disappointed I didn't win the grand prize. It's only natural.

To call fans "clowns" for being disappointed and not jumping for joy over the #3 pick as quick as some were able to do is stupid.


The thing is that Clev, Phoenix and Bulls fans were all out in sports bars or at home glued to their tv sets rooting for their teams to get the #1 pick to and were all yelling at the tv and upset and everything else just like Knicks fans were when they landed at #5, #6 and #7 in the draft but since we're New York City and the New York Knicks it's us that get all the attention by all these media people.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1146 » by malik959 » Sun May 19, 2019 12:33 am

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How I feel about the people tripping about the lottery after getting #3.


This video is stupid!

I don't know many fans who were actually bashing RJ the player or whoever lands at #3. The "tripping" came from us never getting a break for so long and getting SO CLOSE to finally being in the driver's seat (with #1) only to get disappointed yet again.

Sure, the #3 pick is still good and way better than #5 or anywhere else we could have landed. However, if I had a chance to win a $100 million grand prize but ended up only winning 3rd place with $1 million, of course, $1 million is still very good and better than nothing -- but I'm still gonna be disappointed I didn't win the grand prize. It's only natural.

To call fans "clowns" for being disappointed and not jumping for joy over the #3 pick as quick as some were able to do is stupid.

$1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1147 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am

F N 11 wrote:Are we sleeping on Trier?


Trier's here unless we trade him for AD. I love his scoring ability. If he keeps his head on straight, he can be a scoring machine for us. He's super talented. He's one of the reasons why I wouldn't mind if we just continued on our present path.
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Post#1148 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 12:46 am

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Dare I say he brings a Donovan Mitchell level of intrigue :o

I know about the immaturity concerns and the issues he's had with the head coach but damn he's oozing with talent

Been hyping him up since last summer. If the Knicks decided to trade down for him I wouldn’t even be mad. Dude is a nasty scorer


Earlier in the season I couldn’t bring myself to get enamored with Culver as I believe lower ranked guys like KPJr and Langford were the ones with abilities that could translate to the NBA.

Culver’s lack of burst on top of his inconsistent shooting worries me in terms of his potential to be a great player in the league.
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Post#1149 » by Worst_to_First » Sun May 19, 2019 12:49 am

HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish


Cam Reddish and Jaxson Hayes should be their targets.

I don’t think they should be the ones going for Bol Bol. Collins is not a Center and I think Hayes complement him better.
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Post#1150 » by WargamesX » Sun May 19, 2019 1:02 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish


Cam Reddish and Jaxson Hayes should be their targets.

I don’t think they should be the ones going for Bol Bol. Collins is not a Center and I think Hayes complement him better.


I don't think Cam is there at 8.
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Post#1151 » by F N 11 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:07 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Are we sleeping on Trier?


Trier's here unless we trade him for AD. I love his scoring ability. If he keeps his head on straight, he can be a scoring machine for us. He's super talented. He's one of the reasons why I wouldn't mind if we just continued on our present path.

I really hope the plan is to sell the young team to KD or something lol. I don’t want them to get traded.
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Post#1152 » by HEZI » Sun May 19, 2019 1:17 am

F N 11 wrote:
HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish

Would be a dope pick up for them but where did you hear that?


https://www.thestepien.com/2019/05/16/draft-notes-quick-thoughts-question-answer-dropbox/

3) There’s a lot of smoke about Cam Reddish going to Atlanta. A lot, from multiple different sources. If you remember last year, there was an equal amount of smoke about Trae Young going to Atlanta. More than that, Young was indeed Atlanta’s desired target.
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1153 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun May 19, 2019 1:24 am

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Dare I say he brings a Donovan Mitchell level of intrigue :o

I know about the immaturity concerns and the issues he's had with the head coach but damn he's oozing with talent

Been hyping him up since last summer. If the Knicks decided to trade down for him I wouldn’t even be mad. Dude is a nasty scorer


Earlier in the season I couldn’t bring myself to get enamored with Culver as I believe lower ranked guys like KPJr and Langford were the ones with abilities that could translate to the NBA.

Culver’s lack of burst on top of his inconsistent shooting worries me in terms of his potential to be a great player in the league.

Culver reminds me of Frank. I would not trade down for him. I’ll be pretty mad if we did.

How do you feel about RJ still? He is growing on me a little bit. He is still a very flawed player but I am starting to see some star potential in him. His FIBA tape makes him look like a god
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Re: Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond 

Post#1154 » by HEZI » Sun May 19, 2019 1:26 am

WargamesX wrote:
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HEZI wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are locked in on Cam Reddish


Cam Reddish and Jaxson Hayes should be their targets.

I don’t think they should be the ones going for Bol Bol. Collins is not a Center and I think Hayes complement him better.


I don't think Cam is there at 8.


There's a chance he will be but it all depends on what Lakers and Cavs do at 4 and 5. Phoenix and Chicago are likely not taking him at 6 and 7. If Culver and Hunter go before Cam then there is a good chance he drops to 8.
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Post#1156 » by newyorker4ever » Sun May 19, 2019 1:36 am

HEZI wrote:
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Cam Reddish and Jaxson Hayes should be their targets.

I don’t think they should be the ones going for Bol Bol. Collins is not a Center and I think Hayes complement him better.


I don't think Cam is there at 8.


There's a chance he will be but it all depends on what Lakers and Cavs do at 4 and 5. Phoenix and Chicago are likely not taking him at 6 and 7. If Culver and Hunter go before Cam then there is a good chance he drops to 8.



The biggest need for both Phoenix and Chicago is PG and i'm sure both will try to trade up for D.Garland so maybe they could trade up to #4 and then i wonder if teams are looking at Coby White as a PG or SG.
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Post#1158 » by Knick4Real » Sun May 19, 2019 1:44 am

malik959 wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:
F N 11 wrote:

How I feel about the people tripping about the lottery after getting #3.


This video is stupid!

I don't know many fans who were actually bashing RJ the player or whoever lands at #3. The "tripping" came from us never getting a break for so long and getting SO CLOSE to finally being in the driver's seat (with #1) only to get disappointed yet again.

Sure, the #3 pick is still good and way better than #5 or anywhere else we could have landed. However, if I had a chance to win a $100 million grand prize but ended up only winning 3rd place with $1 million, of course, $1 million is still very good and better than nothing -- but I'm still gonna be disappointed I didn't win the grand prize. It's only natural.

To call fans "clowns" for being disappointed and not jumping for joy over the #3 pick as quick as some were able to do is stupid.

$1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.


Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.
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Post#1159 » by Polk377 » Sun May 19, 2019 2:00 am

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malik959 wrote:
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This video is stupid!

I don't know many fans who were actually bashing RJ the player or whoever lands at #3. The "tripping" came from us never getting a break for so long and getting SO CLOSE to finally being in the driver's seat (with #1) only to get disappointed yet again.

Sure, the #3 pick is still good and way better than #5 or anywhere else we could have landed. However, if I had a chance to win a $100 million grand prize but ended up only winning 3rd place with $1 million, of course, $1 million is still very good and better than nothing -- but I'm still gonna be disappointed I didn't win the grand prize. It's only natural.

To call fans "clowns" for being disappointed and not jumping for joy over the #3 pick as quick as some were able to do is stupid.

$1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.


Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Depends on how you look at. Most years RJ would be the grand prize. This kid is exceptionally talented. His game will translate better to the NBA, especially if he has shooters around him spacing the floor which Duke severely lacked with Cam bricking everything.We are doing just fine.
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Post#1160 » by Knick4Real » Sun May 19, 2019 2:05 am

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malik959 wrote: $1 Million? Oh hell naw, more like $75 mil. RJ actually has more skill than Zion, Zion is just a Athletic freak of nature. People talk about RJ not being able to shoot, well Zion can't shoot past three feet. I was an RJ > Zion stan half the season and felt that Coach K was making him the #1 option for a reason. Coach K was putting the ball in RJ's hands and allowing him to run the team.


Don't get caught up on numbers in an analogy, especially since it has nothing to do with the actual players.

The point was, we were hoping to win the grand prize and we didn't. People have a right to be disappointed.


Depends on how you look at. Most years RJ would be the grand prize. This kid is exceptionally talented. His game will translate better to the NBA, especially if he has shooters around him spacing the floor which Duke severely lacked with Cam bricking everything.We are doing just fine.


You're missing the point.

Again, I'm not doubting the players. I'm only saying KNICKS fans are not clowns for being disappointed they didn't get the #1 pick -- WHOEVER that player turns out to be.
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