payitforward wrote:milellie111 wrote:Look sir, i'm just a fellow Wizards fan like yourself. No need to call names like "troll" etc. The only difference is that i believe in Mr. Leonsis and Grunfeld and the plan they have for this team. I am seeing results RIGHT NOW!! I am not focused on living in the past. Every team has gone through dark ages. Why should the Wizards be any different? This team has turned the corner and i have pointed out all of the positives to look to the future with optimism. If you want to drown in sorrows and be negative while the team is currently winning, nothing i say will change your mind. So while you moan and whine, i'll cheer for my team.
Okey dokey, milellie111 -- you're off the hook. Off my hook anyway. You're a fan, you feel you have reason to be happy, you're expressing your happiness, you want to "cheer for my team."
That's all good. I also cheer for the Wizards. I'm also a fan. I'm going to guess I'm much older than you, which would mean that I have a longer time-line into the past with this team -- time spent watching Ernie's Grunfeld's work. Calling for him e.g. to draft Kawhi Leonard and watching him draft Jan Vesely instead. Calling for him to draft Kenneth Faried and watching him draft Chris Singleton instead, calling for him to draft Chandler Parsons and watching him draft (then waive!) Shelvin Mack, calling for him to draft Jae Crowder or Draymond Green and watching him draft Tomas Satoransky, hoping he'd have a chance to nab Kyle O'Quinn and watching him give away the low round 2 pick that would have gotten him for us, and much much more -- that's only the start.
And, thing is, however long I've been a fan (decades) there are people here who've been fans a lot longer than I. But every one of us has watched Ernie's work with attention every year of the decade+ he's been here.
Now that doesn't mean you should hold back on your opinion -- and certainly not on cheering! But it does mean that you might want to hold back on accusing me, as you do above (and many others too) of preferring to "drown in sorrow", "moan and whine", and other such phrases in previous posts. It was that kind of thing, and the repeated iterations of it, that led me and others to think of you as a "troll" -- i.e. just visiting here to rile people up so you could have a laugh at us.
I hope you understand what I'm getting at, and I hope you take it seriously. Please do provide your point of view, I hope you do it frequently. But, even though some of us rough each other up here, keep in mind that we've been at it a little while, we've built up some trust -- when fishercob beats the crap out of me, I just beat the crap out of him in return. Ditto me and hands. Just a couple of examples.
But you showed up out of nowhere calling us moaners, whiners, etc. -- and you were armed w/ a view of the team that didn't evidence much history (at least that's how it seemed to me). Nor did you ever, not even once, engage any point someone made in response to your opinions of the team or posters here. That's why, finally, I boiled over.
As to your opinion that we're "currently winning" -- we're likely to achieve the 7th spot in what has to be the worst Eastern Conference I've seen in all my years of being an NBA fan. We can agree to disagree, but I'm not impressed w/ this "winning."
Sorry to go on so long -- I felt I owed it to you after calling you an idiot. The above is what I really meant to say! That and welcome to the forum. Enjoy your pleasure in this team and its GM, but pay attention to the analysis here all the same if you would.
Please tell me, what GM hasn't missed out on a few picks? What business onwer has never missed out on oppurtunities and profit? Some things are pure chance, and some things are out of your control. My point is that the framework and foundation is laid here for a young competitive group of guys. Their chemistry is continuing to grow. There has been improvement all around from Grunfeld to Whittman which has extended all the way down to the players. You focus on negative moves with Grunfeld, how about the positive ones he's made? You seem to look at the glass half empty. You fail to realize the value Garrett Temple has at his contract price and how much he adds to the 2nd unit defensively. You fail to realize the addition of Al Harrington, who even though he is injured right now showed how valuable he will be coming off the bench. You fail to notice the improvement and development of Seraphin and Booker who get better each year. Booker is a blue collar workhorse and VERY respected around the league.
But more importantly, we are only the second Eastern Conference team to beat the Warriors on their home court this season. We are back at 500 - and in the 5th spot in the East again. Say what you want about this being the worst Eastern Conference division in history, the Wizards can't help that. But do not take away from their success. Give credit where it is due. If Miami or Indiana wins it all this year, do not detract from their success by saying they played in a weak conference.
