Bulls @ Hawks 6:30 CT

[Tetlak]

Bulls ruined my parlay by remembering how to play basketball at the end.

Shame on you for forgetting that Ayo is Trae's dad

[Andi Obst]

I love how Zach is playing within this new offense. He deserves so much credit for that. I really hope they find a good trade for both sides, the Bulls and Zach.

[MrSparkle]

5th year in a row where our top minute 5-man lineups have some hilariously bad net ratings (-17 and -41) while a bunch of much lower minute lineups have huge plus nets (+30 +19 +33 +68).

I can’t take Donovan seriously. I realize it wouldn’t translate to the other lineups succeeding without a hitch, but it’s pretty apparent that you just can’t play Giddey/Vuc together without giving up a lot, and some kind of heavy defensive balance (Ayo, Lonzo, Phillips, even Terry/Jalen) has to outnumber the sieves (Coby, Zach, Giddey, Vuc). You just can’t play 3 let alone 4 together, unless they’re on fire.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2025/lineups/

But more importantly, he either ignores the reality of this, or he doesn’t prepare for it, and is left scrambling lineup combinations instead of coming into training camp with defined rotations and roles.

[Red8911]

Bulls ruined my parlay by remembering how to play basketball at the end.

Why would you bet against your own team? I wouldn’t be able to do that.

[Chi town]

When Zach and Vucevic are both healthy are the Bulls a play-in team? If so, this could be a season leading nowhere.

Any news on Zach being traded?

How about a 5 seed? Would that be enough to make it worth it? I'm just trying to understand how good do the Bulls need to be to make tankers say it was worth it?

Right now the Bulls are 4-3 in games where Zach has played. 0-3 when he hasn't.

I think we are a 6-8 seed if healthy. Don’t think we will be healthy. Giddey and Pat are still rounding into game shape. Others will lose their legs with this pace as the season goes on.

Billy is clearly coaching to develop and competitively lose. His 4th quarter lineup against the Wolves was left in to enforce the loss. DT would not be playing if they were looking to win.

[Stratmaster]

I'd be surprised if the Bulls ended up the 5th seed and if that happens I still think they don't go far in the playoffs.

I think the Bulls need to use this year to develop players like Matas and build towards the future. The 2025 pick could help with that, especially since the Bulls have no player with the potential to be a franchise player.

Continuing to be a team that just misses the playoffs, or gets into the play-in, is pointless. They've already done that for a few years.

A 3 seed? Title or bust?

I'm really pleased that they are 4-3 when Zach is healthy and still figuring out a new system. If they had a coach who would actually have tried to do something to address the q1 issues they would likely be 5-2 in those games. Granted, they weren't playing the Cavs and Celtics.

Personally though, I would love to watch an over .500 team and a first round playoff series for a change. That's not a prediction byv the way. Just a preference.

Would you like .500 ball and first round exits for the next several years? Without a future or way of improving going forward?

Because that's what this team has basically been for the last 3 years.

I would like it better than 3 years of being horrible and then a 2nd round exit. We are all only going to live so long.

[burlydee]

Bulls ruined my parlay by remembering how to play basketball at the end.

Why would you bet against your own team? I wouldn’t be able to do that.

I do it all the time. I know the Bulls better than the odds makers. It's actually one of my only gambling cheats. It's the only single game parlay I can hit (today I had Giddey +12 pts, +6 assist, +10 rebs Vuc, with a Bulls win).

I knew they were going to lose to Utah. Bad team, playing hard and Bulls have no D. When it comes to certain matchups, I get the feeling.

[Jvaughn]

Not Bulls related, but I was very impressed with Dyson Daniels yesterday. He still struggles with that left hand, and has a ways to go as a shooter, but he's a great complimentary piece for any team. Great disruptive defender with high IQ on the offensive side. Liked him in the draft, but knew he would take some time to become playable.

[madvillian]

Gotta give Zach his credit. Played a controlled game and seems to be willing to play his part as the good soldier until he's traded. Just stay healthy dude. I'm not a huge Giddey fan but just having a guy other than White that can handle in the half court and sometimes draw enough attention to get Zach a look is a big help.

I thought Pat played a very nice 2nd half, he set the tone in the 4th when he came back defensively, he was really frustrating Capela and covered for Vuc on that end as best he could despite giving up some height.

Giddey and White I thought were mediocre to bad (turnstiles defensively and not efficient enough on offense) but played their best in the 4th. Ayo was meh. Vuc played well again. At this point he is what his on defense. If he scores efficiently he makes up for it.

Thought Phillips played maybe his best minutes of the season. Terry is a wild card I like putting him in when nothing else is going well and the game is open in those backup minutes. If he just had half a shot he'd be a solid role player. Maybe one day.

[Dan Z]

When Zach and Vucevic are both healthy are the Bulls a play-in team? If so, this could be a season leading nowhere.

Any news on Zach being traded?

How about a 5 seed? Would that be enough to make it worth it? I'm just trying to understand how good do the Bulls need to be to make tankers say it was worth it?

Right now the Bulls are 4-3 in games where Zach has played. 0-3 when he hasn't.

I think we are a 6-8 seed if healthy. Don’t think we will be healthy. Giddey and Pat are still rounding into game shape. Others will lose their legs with this pace as the season goes on.

Billy is clearly coaching to develop and competitively lose. His 4th quarter lineup against the Wolves was left in to enforce the loss. DT would not be playing if they were looking to win.

What are the Bulls developing with Terry? Has he shown anything to think that he'll be a good rotation player down the road (or soon)?

[Dan Z]

A 3 seed? Title or bust?

I'm really pleased that they are 4-3 when Zach is healthy and still figuring out a new system. If they had a coach who would actually have tried to do something to address the q1 issues they would likely be 5-2 in those games. Granted, they weren't playing the Cavs and Celtics.

Personally though, I would love to watch an over .500 team and a first round playoff series for a change. That's not a prediction byv the way. Just a preference.

Would you like .500 ball and first round exits for the next several years? Without a future or way of improving going forward?

Because that's what this team has basically been for the last 3 years.

I would like it better than 3 years of being horrible and then a 2nd round exit. We are all only going to live so long.

If the front office rebuilds we have no idea if they'll be a "2nd round exit" in three years, but there's a chance that they become a competitive team. Right now the Bulls are a low seed or play-in team and probably another 39 or 40 wins (which is what they had the past two seasons). Why continue doing that year to year?

You enjoy watching play-in games?

[Jvaughn]

Vuc is playing as good as he's ever played on the Bulls. At least on the offensive side of the ball. FO needs to be on those phones working to get anything of value they can. Lot of teams out there that need a C right now. And they have pieces (NOP) that can makeup for Vuc defensively.

[Chi town]

How about a 5 seed? Would that be enough to make it worth it? I'm just trying to understand how good do the Bulls need to be to make tankers say it was worth it?

Right now the Bulls are 4-3 in games where Zach has played. 0-3 when he hasn't.

I think we are a 6-8 seed if healthy. Don’t think we will be healthy. Giddey and Pat are still rounding into game shape. Others will lose their legs with this pace as the season goes on.

Billy is clearly coaching to develop and competitively lose. His 4th quarter lineup against the Wolves was left in to enforce the loss. DT would not be playing if they were looking to win.

What are the Bulls developing with Terry? Has he shown anything to think that he'll be a good rotation player down the road (or soon)?

Nothing. Which is why it’s crazy he gets mins. Especially over Buz. I’d much rather try some G League kid.

[Chi town]

Not Bulls related, but I was very impressed with Dyson Daniels yesterday. He still struggles with that left hand, and has a ways to go as a shooter, but he's a great complimentary piece for any team. Great disruptive defender with high IQ on the offensive side. Liked him in the draft, but knew he would take some time to become playable.

Thought the same thing. He plays with an edge.

[Stratmaster]

Would you like .500 ball and first round exits for the next several years? Without a future or way of improving going forward?

Because that's what this team has basically been for the last 3 years.

I would like it better than 3 years of being horrible and then a 2nd round exit. We are all only going to live so long.

If the front office rebuilds we have no idea if they'll be a "2nd round exit" in three years, but there's a chance that they become a competitive team. Right now the Bulls are a low seed or play-in team and probably another 39 or 40 wins (which is what they had the past two seasons). Why continue doing that year to year?

You enjoy watching play-in games?

Losing as much as they can isn't going to change any of that for several seasons.

[NecessaryEvil]

Trade everyone @ the deadline

Zach
Ayo
Coby
Vooch
Zo
Giddey


Load up on picks, do it the Celtics/OKC way

[Dan Z]

I would like it better than 3 years of being horrible and then a 2nd round exit. We are all only going to live so long.

If the front office rebuilds we have no idea if they'll be a "2nd round exit" in three years, but there's a chance that they become a competitive team. Right now the Bulls are a low seed or play-in team and probably another 39 or 40 wins (which is what they had the past two seasons). Why continue doing that year to year?

You enjoy watching play-in games?

Losing as much as they can isn't going to change any of that for several seasons.

It'll depend on how the season goes. if they're doing ok near the deadline and try to add a win now piece then what's the point? The play-in?

It's what they've done in the past and will probably do if they can.

Look at what the Mavs did two years ago. They knew their season was over, tanked and ended up keeping their pick. They then used that pick to shed salary, move down in the draft and pick Dereck Lively. He's turned out to be a good young player.

That's a move where a front office is thinking about its teams future (unlike AK).

[ScrantonBulls]

Bulls ruined my parlay by remembering how to play basketball at the end.

Why would you bet against your own team? I wouldn’t be able to do that.

The team and organization suck now and for the foreseeable future. You're telling me you wouldn't take the opportunity to win money by betting against this sorry ass team? I don't understand that.