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Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1201 » by blueNorange » Sun Jun 2, 2019 7:10 am

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SOB! I was locked in on RJ but not I have to keep an open mind.

yeah because culver is like real good.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1202 » by FutureKnicksGM » Sun Jun 2, 2019 8:09 am

Worst_to_First wrote:
FutureKnicksGM wrote:I think you only move RJ if you can trade down and can get a good future pick. That means the CAV's are the only option imo. RJ with ATL's core will winning more often than not down the line.

RJ for #5, CLE 2020 First if pick falls between 5-10 (If not, CLE 2021 unprotected & a couple of seconds).

Pretty much the Luka/Trae trade 2.0.


Cavs should be willing to give 2020 first round pick 1-10 or no deal.


I don't think CLE likes RJ that much. but If Perry can get that done then great. I personally don't mind waiting until 2021, we'll have 2 unprotected picks at a time when we're probably starting to plan towards life after KD.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1203 » by Oscirus » Sun Jun 2, 2019 8:18 am

Pretty sure that the cavs cant trade any future picks before 2023 due to their other commitments so it would be a non factor anyway. Best we could hope for from the cavs is 5,26 and 2023 unprotected which is too far away as it is to be doing such things. As for now, Im fine with the due diligence that the Knicks are doing but the common sense pick needs to happen.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1204 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 8:54 am

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Read on Twitter

Wait how?



Its trick photography... since the measurement stick is in front of the basket and the camera is down low at the ground, probably around the half court line, and angled up it makes him look higher in proportion to the rim than he actually is...

That being said Culver actually has surprising pop around the basket when he has a head of steam. The problem is is his first step is slow and his handle is extremely basic so he rarely gets the separation necessary to show off that pop.


Yup. You tend to always see this angle for vert pics. And ya Culver may throw down a nice dunk here and there, but the vast majority of his tape shows his slow first step and struggling to create space against slow opposition. Culver is going to have to be a crafty scorer over athleticism.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1205 » by DowNY » Sun Jun 2, 2019 10:28 am

F N 11 wrote:

This is more of a trap than when Cuban went out to see Frank Ntilikina.
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Post#1206 » by Capn'O » Sun Jun 2, 2019 10:30 am

The thing I wonder about Culver - he seems to have grown this year. So can he get more pop as he fills into his new height?
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1207 » by Capn'O » Sun Jun 2, 2019 10:35 am

That video is funny. Yeah, Culver looks better when you just show him making shots and Barrett only missing. No bias at all.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1208 » by King of Canada » Sun Jun 2, 2019 10:40 am

Capn'O wrote:That video is funny. Yeah, Culver looks better when you just show him making shots and Barrett only missing. No bias at all.


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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1209 » by Reign23 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 10:50 am

my priorities with the 3rd pick:

1. trade for AD
2. take R.J.
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3. trade down if you get an unprotected or slightly protected future first in addition to a top 6 pick. but I don't like this option tbh.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1210 » by awy » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:02 pm

the fact that cavs are in love with rj presents a great opportunity to extract value from one of the few remaining dumb owner run teams independent of the AD consideration.

try to get a future unprotected first, doesnt matter the year. it will be a strong trade asset because cavs will be bad for a long long time.
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Post#1211 » by BeagleBoss » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:03 pm

I won't be surprised if we took Culver at 3. I don't see how Barrett is a superior talent. Both are on the same tier imo. And Culver might be a better fit with KD than Barrett.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1212 » by awy » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:04 pm

blueNorange wrote:
F N 11 wrote:

SOB! I was locked in on RJ but not I have to keep an open mind.

yeah because culver is like real good.

culver wont be more than a third option type but he’s really good at it. also has nice finishing touch around rim.

his passing acumen is great, better than rj at reading more complex situations.

just dont expect him to be the primary dribbler. think levert with better passing.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1213 » by moocow007 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:20 pm

Capn'O wrote:That video is funny. Yeah, Culver looks better when you just show him making shots and Barrett only missing. No bias at all.
Exactly. Maybe they should play the last 3 games of the tournament Culver played...ya know games that might actually how Culver would do against the better defenses and better defenders he'd face on a nightly basis in the NBA? You know where he shot 24% combined from the field and was basically getting embarrassed?

My guess this vid was created by a Cavs fan who realizes that Barrett us the guy they desperately need.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1214 » by moocow007 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:22 pm

awy wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
F N 11 wrote:

SOB! I was locked in on RJ but not I have to keep an open mind.

yeah because culver is like real good.

culver wont be more than a third option type but he’s really good at it. also has nice finishing touch around rim.

his passing acumen is great, better than rj at reading more complex situations.

just dont expect him to be the primary dribbler. think levert with better passing.
That's not what you draft at 3rd overall... especially not for this team.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1215 » by DrCoach » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:23 pm

RJ Barrett avg 26.1ppg 8.1 Reb 5.1 Asst. when Zion was out with injury
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1216 » by moocow007 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:25 pm

awy wrote:the fact that cavs are in love with rj presents a great opportunity to extract value from one of the few remaining dumb owner run teams independent of the AD consideration.

try to get a future unprotected first, doesnt matter the year. it will be a strong trade asset because cavs will be bad for a long long time.
They reason they are infatuated with Barrett is because he's the only other potential impact player in this draft. The only other plyer outside of Zion and Morant to project as a no.1 alpha option.

Obtw...as both teams rosters are currently structured, the Cavs and the Knicks are both basically in the same boat with the same exact needs.

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1217 » by DrCoach » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:29 pm

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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1218 » by awy » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:31 pm

moocow007 wrote:
awy wrote:
blueNorange wrote:yeah because culver is like real good.

culver wont be more than a third option type but he’s really good at it. also has nice finishing touch around rim.

his passing acumen is great, better than rj at reading more complex situations.

just dont expect him to be the primary dribbler. think levert with better passing.
That's not what you draft at 3rd overall... especially not for this team.

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this team needs high level role players.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1219 » by awy » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:32 pm

moocow007 wrote:
awy wrote:the fact that cavs are in love with rj presents a great opportunity to extract value from one of the few remaining dumb owner run teams independent of the AD consideration.

try to get a future unprotected first, doesnt matter the year. it will be a strong trade asset because cavs will be bad for a long long time.
They reason they are infatuated with Barrett is because he's the only other potential impact player in this draft. The only other plyer outside of Zion and Morant to project as a no.1 alpha option.

Obtw...as both teams rosters are currently structured, the Cavs and the Knicks are both basically in the same boat with the same exact needs.

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people projecting this from rj are precisely people you want to get value from. lamb to the slaughter.
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Re: Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo 

Post#1220 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Jun 2, 2019 12:47 pm

awy wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
awy wrote:culver wont be more than a third option type but he’s really good at it. also has nice finishing touch around rim.

his passing acumen is great, better than rj at reading more complex situations.

just dont expect him to be the primary dribbler. think levert with better passing.
That's not what you draft at 3rd overall... especially not for this team.

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This team needs a star level prospect.

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