Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[Bruin]

I feel like we've seen a lot of posturing over the past couple of days from both sides.
But tonight is decision time and I think by the end of it, one of Pascal or OG will be on the Blazers.

Pretty sure you have it backwards and there is a good chance Dame is traded tonight.

Neither will happen. Portland is a mid franchise with a stupid FO. They’ll try to head into camp with Dame, Scoot, and Ant

[Brinbe]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

[Duffman100]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

100%. Fanbase LOVES Dame. If they trade Dame without him asking out and start their rebuild I could see it negatively impacting ticket sales MORE than if Dame asks out himself.

[LoveMyRaps]

I feel like we've seen a lot of posturing over the past couple of days from both sides.
But tonight is decision time and I think by the end of it, one of Pascal or OG will be on the Blazers.

You’re setting yourself up for disappointment man. Masai is much more likely to do nothing

If it happens, great. But I have very low expectations of any trades going down

Call it a bold prediction if you will. But yeah, you're right about having low expectations when it comes to this FO, who have proven to be nothing but incompetent in recent years.

[Brinbe]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

100%. Fanbase LOVES Dame. If they trade Dame without him asking out and start their rebuild I could see it negatively impacting ticket sales MORE than if Dame asks out himself.

as they should, he's a legit superstar and you can contend with a guy like that if you build around him correctly, which they've massively failed at.

makes me shake my head as we've had probably only two of those sorts of guys in our entire history, early 2000s vince before the injuries and kawhi.

[YogurtProducer]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

I for one think Dame + Siakam is a **** awesome duo, especially if you fill it out with Grant/Nurk and then potentially move off some future 1sts to get some role players in the building. In this era of the NBA you don't need a big 3 as if you have one guy who can play like an MVP (Dame.. like Jokic or ECF Jimmy) and an all-star/all-nba guy next to him (Siakam... like Murray or Bam) you can make some serious noise.

Or they can tear it down and spend the next 20 years looking to draft a player who MIGHT be as good as Siakam, let alone as good as Dame.

Dame/Sharpe/Grant/Siakam/Nurkic is a HCA type squad. If Sharpe has any sort of breakout season they are even more dangerous (or you trade Sharpe in a subsequent move for an upgrade).

Like in theory they can draft Scoot so you can attach his salary, then trade Scoot/Sharpe/Simons/Knox for OG/Siakam and roll out Dame/OG/Grant/Siakam/Nurkic. That is a contender and at the end of the day that is what you build for.

[Duffman100]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

I for one think Dame + Siakam is a **** awesome duo, especially if you fill it out with Grant/Nurk and then potentially move off some future 1sts to get some role players in the building. In this era of the NBA you don't need a big 3 as if you have one guy who can play like an MVP (Dame.. like Jokic or ECF Jimmy) and an all-star/all-nba guy next to him (Siakam... like Murray or Bam) you can make some serious noise.

Or they can tear it down and spend the next 20 years looking to draft a player who MIGHT be as good as Siakam, let alone as good as Dame.

Dame and Siakam (with some depth around them) would be one of the better teams in the league without a doubt.

[Brinbe]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

I for one think Dame + Siakam is a **** awesome duo, especially if you fill it out with Grant/Nurk and then potentially move off some future 1sts to get some role players in the building. In this era of the NBA you don't need a big 3 as if you have one guy who can play like an MVP (Dame.. like Jokic or ECF Jimmy) and an all-star/all-nba guy next to him (Siakam... like Murray or Bam) you can make some serious noise.

Or they can tear it down and spend the next 20 years looking to draft a player who MIGHT be as good as Siakam, let alone as good as Dame.

yes, exactly! and they complement each other perfectly. siakam has already proven himself in that exact role as a secondary star and he's even better now compared to 2019. grant shot 40% from 3 last year he can easily play alongside siakam. Nurk could be a good bounce-back guy after all the injuries he's had and you can upgrade on him at worst.

it just makes all the sense in the world which is why it's frustrating to see all this play out now.

[NinjaBro]

I actually don't want Siakam and OG on the blazers. These portland fans have been so smug that it'll really be a punch in the gut if they get them both and they realize that Dame/Siakam/OG will make serious noise when they see them play together. They fit perfectly with Dame. Siakam and OG are criminally underrated. They want Bam, really? Smh

[YogurtProducer]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

I for one think Dame + Siakam is a **** awesome duo, especially if you fill it out with Grant/Nurk and then potentially move off some future 1sts to get some role players in the building. In this era of the NBA you don't need a big 3 as if you have one guy who can play like an MVP (Dame.. like Jokic or ECF Jimmy) and an all-star/all-nba guy next to him (Siakam... like Murray or Bam) you can make some serious noise.

Or they can tear it down and spend the next 20 years looking to draft a player who MIGHT be as good as Siakam, let alone as good as Dame.

yes, exactly! and they complement each other perfectly. siakam has already proven himself in that exact role as a secondary star and he's even better now compared to 2019. grant shot 40% from 3 last year he can easily play alongside siakam. Nurk could be a good bounce-back guy after all the injuries he's had and you can upgrade on him at worst.

it just makes all the sense in the world which is why it's frustrating to see all this play out now.

The theoretical Blazers team is pretty much just the current Raps team with an MVP PG in Dame instead of FVV, and better fitting pieces next to Siakam in Grant rather than 20 year old Barnes.

And like you said, they could always trade Nurk + picks for an upgrade at the C position. Maybe Minny wants to move off KAT and they could line themselves up for that.

[douggood]

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[TorontoRapsFan]

Calling it: if the player the Raptors want is there at 3, OG is getting shipped for #3 and salary filler (Nurkic). I hate the thought of losing OG but I bet this happens.
Hopefully Nurkic going to 3rd team

[Zeno]

yeah, ive said this previously but it feels like the blazers have picked a direction and theyre pressuring dame to be the one to ask out. they don't want to be the ones to do it since maybe that makes a difference in their mind and how it appears to their fanbase.

i don't think scoot/simons//sharpe/grant/nurk is really scaring anyone though.

not like a dame+siakam big 2 would imo. but i guess they don't want the risk of losing siakam in FA. but we took that risk with kawhi and it paid off.

I for one think Dame + Siakam is a **** awesome duo, especially if you fill it out with Grant/Nurk and then potentially move off some future 1sts to get some role players in the building. In this era of the NBA you don't need a big 3 as if you have one guy who can play like an MVP (Dame.. like Jokic or ECF Jimmy) and an all-star/all-nba guy next to him (Siakam... like Murray or Bam) you can make some serious noise.

Or they can tear it down and spend the next 20 years looking to draft a player who MIGHT be as good as Siakam, let alone as good as Dame.

Almost everyone opts for the tearddown in this kind of situation in a smaller market. The media pressure is definitely on the side of them rebuilding and trading Dame. Not even saying it would be the wrong decision but if the Lakers had the #3 this year, do you think all the podcast would say keep the pick, and trade AD? Job security-wise they have made them keeping the pick way way safer for their gm and that's what he'll probably do.

[Duffman100]

Calling it: if the player the Raptors want is there at 3, OG is getting shipped for #3 and salary filler (Nurkic). I hate the thought of losing OG but I bet this happens.

I think at a minimum we'd have to include the 13 alongside OG (with extension guarantees for OG) for that to happen.

No way Portland trades the #3 straight up for OG.

[LoveMyRaps]

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#3 back in play.
This is a headache to say the very least.

[YogurtProducer]

Calling it: if the player the Raptors want is there at 3, OG is getting shipped for #3 and salary filler (Nurkic). I hate the thought of losing OG but I bet this happens.

I think at a minimum we'd have to include the 13 alongside OG (with extension guarantees for OG) for that to happen.

No way Portland trades the #3 straight up for OG.

And IDK why Portland would want just OG. They don't really get any closer to a championship.

Portland needs to swing for OG and Siakam if anything. Just doing 1 is a weird half measure.

[TorontoBarneys]

Honestly I'm fairly high on both Amen and Ausar, too. Lots of good talent this draft. Detroit and Houston could all be good trade partners. Maybe even Orlando somehow for #6? Not sure how, FVV ain't enough.

[Ranger One]

Lol no one in their right might is trading the #3 pick for OG lmao. WTF are people smoking? Have people learned nothing about this FO in the last decade. We aint doing **** either at the trade deadline or on draft day. Gonna be a lot of unhappy people tonight when we, once again, stand pat.

[_MidNight_]

I wonder if we would trade for #3 if Scoot is off the board. I think the value of that pick would drop into the OG value range.

Would they even take Miller at 3?

[TorontoRapsFan]

Calling it: if the player the Raptors want is there at 3, OG is getting shipped for #3 and salary filler (Nurkic). I hate the thought of losing OG but I bet this happens.

I think at a minimum we'd have to include the 13 alongside OG (with extension guarantees for OG) for that to happen.

No way Portland trades the #3 straight up for OG.

Hope not. With next year's pick gone Raps need this one. But I think it doesn't make sense for Portland to get one player while losing Simmons and the pick unless the player is a superstar and there isn't anyone. That puts them in a bit of a bind with few options.