ImageImageImage

Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1361 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:10 am

daoneandonly wrote:
fuller4379 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Torrey Craig would be a good and cheap pick... I hope he didn't sign for the vet Min.


Assuming he would have accepted it, I would rather be paying him $4 million per year than Seth Curry.


Makes much more sense than Dante Exum. But this FO always thinks theyre smarter than anyone else


Ouch it hurts.
Craig is solid and fix all a little bit all we need.

If THJ will be here after this off season then the Curry signs would be dumbest ever... I hope they have a trade yet signed.
fuller4379
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,727
And1: 1,586
Joined: May 05, 2014

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1362 » by fuller4379 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:20 am

Mavericks trying to trade THJ, McGee, or Holmes, per The Athletic's Tim Cato

"There are three more players under contract — Tim Hardaway Jr., JaVale McGee and Richaun Holmes— who Dallas is attempting to trade. Holmes is the likeliest of the three to stick around, while Hardaway and McGee can’t be on Dallas’ roster if the front office wants to conclude its offseason in the way they envisioned."

Also says Mavericks have had interest in Grant for a while, but his camp is looking for more than the mid-level. Celtics are apparently not interested in THJ so Cato says the Mavericks would have to find another team to reroute him to.

Also says that a move for Jarrett Allen or Zubac could prevent us from also doing a Williams deal, and then having to go for Thybulle instead.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1363 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:32 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:Plumlee just resigned in LAC for 1 year 5M, it is so disappointed we have just resigned Powell for 3 years 12M and signed McGee for 3 years 20M last year.


Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,422
And1: 2,108
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1364 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:38 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:Plumlee just resigned in LAC for 1 year 5M, it is so disappointed we have just resigned Powell for 3 years 12M and signed McGee for 3 years 20M last year.


Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.

Craig was very unimpressive for the Lukas Sons and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if he signed for vet min for CHI it's probably because PHX didn't want him back. Wouldn't have shifted the needle for us in any way.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1365 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:59 am

dirkules_41 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:Plumlee just resigned in LAC for 1 year 5M, it is so disappointed we have just resigned Powell for 3 years 12M and signed McGee for 3 years 20M last year.


Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.

Craig was very unimpressive for the Lukas Sons and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if he signed for vet min for CHI it's probably because PHX didn't want him back. Wouldn't have shifted the needle for us in any way.


I immagine how Powell and Exum will shift the needle for us...

Craig started 60games last year in Phoenix and averages 7+5 with 39,5%(44% in PO) for 3s in 25minutes.Solid RS role player.
I don't become mad for him but it would have more sense than someone else... Coff coff.
At least he plays in the spot where we have a big hole.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,685
And1: 4,510
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1366 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:09 am

DickMotta4Prez wrote:
Bob8 wrote:Tell me what Mavs needed in last offseason and what were the signings? A blind rat could tell you what team needed then too. And Nico brought, Wood, giving first round pick for him. Mavs don't want him anymore. McGee for 17 mio, unplayable and untradable. Dorsey, back in Europe after few months. Ntilikina, he can't play even in Europe and our mascot Pinson. Sorry but those past actions don't exactly bring confidence in our management, especially if first moves in this year's market are Powell, Seth and Dante, who don't fix any needs. We all hope that they're not done, but criticism is well warranted after everything that happened in last years.

It's one thing to criticize and second guess the FO, but it's annoying when forum fans display a lack of understanding when it comes to free agency, salary cap & CBA rules. Yes, the Mavs need a rim protecting big who can switch & hit the 3 and a long, athletic 3&D wing - Guess what? Every one else in the NBA needs those players! The Mavs only have $12.4M to spend. Of all the signings that have been announced, only a few were under the amount the Mavs are allowed to offer and just because the Mavs are interested in a player DOES NOT mean that player is obligated to sign with them. I can't stand DP, but I get why he's with the team: he knows the system, the coaches trust him and Luka wants him here. If he's only playing 10-15 mins/game, he's fine. Signing Seth means the Mavs can move THJ. Exum is a low risk/high reward move. Re-signing Kyrie was a big win, no-brainer move. Offers to RFAs can't be made before July 6 and there's multiple trades in the works which will require additional partners. I'm certainly not saying the FO is above criticism (signing McGee ffs), but every off-season, people whine that the Mavs didn't sign players whom they could not afford to pay. Until free agency is over, calm down and let the processes play out. They have 2 superstars, 2 emerging stars and 2 exciting rookies. That's pretty incredible given how asset poor they were last off-season.


Look. If anyone from us buy a luxury car, we better know how we will finance other necessary aspects of our living. I don't believe, sorry wife and children, we bought sports car, so we can't afford anything else, will be met with understanding. At the moment our GM traded for Kyrie he should have had a plan, how he will fix all other holes in the roster. And don't forget, we semi tanked to get 10th pick in this draft. But our GM again rather took a gamble on defensive C, who might or might not help Mavs few years in the future, then fix a hole or 2 with a trade. All those GM's decisions are legit, after all he's paid for making difficult decisions. But if he can't pull his plan off, it's not because he didn't have enough assets on his disposal, or was unlucky but because he made a mistake, a mistake that can cost Mavs a lot.

What ever they do in remaining of offseason, Mavs will still have to many players that play no D, so Seth for sure isn't good fit. I watched Dante in Euroleague and he had very solid season, but for the things he does best you have Luka, Kyrie and Hardy and then you have few other players, who are playing on 2. It's very unlikely that he will even get an opportunity to show something.

Process is playing out no matter what we fans think or do. We're here to express our thoughts, hopes, fears...not to support our GM. All of you that feel need to school us, how we should feel about certain things, better understand, we're not your kids.
Michaellam1987
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,372
And1: 443
Joined: Jan 22, 2020

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1367 » by Michaellam1987 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:09 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:Plumlee just resigned in LAC for 1 year 5M, it is so disappointed we have just resigned Powell for 3 years 12M and signed McGee for 3 years 20M last year.


Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.


I will take 1 year 5M Plumlee over 3 years 12M Powell any time any day. As simple as that.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1368 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:25 am

Michaellam1987 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Michaellam1987 wrote:Plumlee just resigned in LAC for 1 year 5M, it is so disappointed we have just resigned Powell for 3 years 12M and signed McGee for 3 years 20M last year.


Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.


I will take 1 year 5M Plumlee over 3 years 12M Powell any time any day. As simple as that.


That's sure :lol: :lol: :lol:
raps95
Junior
Posts: 303
And1: 77
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
Location: Toronto

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1369 » by raps95 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:26 am

Hi there, Raptors fan here. A twitter acct that called Fred and Dillon to the rockets the day before it happened is saying we are in discussions with the Knicks, Hawks, and Mavericks about Pascal.

Not being the most knowledgeable about your roster I was interested in finding out what your assets are. Trade debates can get adversarial so I’m not looking for the usual, we’d never give you x for pascal, x is way too valuable. I’m just interested in what you guys would see as your assets that are available. As an outsider, it seems like you have one 2027 first and then maybe josh green, Jaden Hardy and Tim Hardaway?

I’m leaving out Christian Wood not because *I* know he’s not good, I’ve just heard a fair bit of negativity from some media types. If you disagree feel free to include him.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. If you want any raptor info feel free to ask.

Read on Twitter
arkuo
General Manager
Posts: 9,824
And1: 2,292
Joined: Jun 16, 2004

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1370 » by arkuo » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:34 am

raps95 wrote:Hi there, Raptors fan here. A twitter acct that called Fred and Dillon to the rockets the day before it happened is saying we are in discussions with the Knicks, Hawks, and Mavericks about Pascal.

Not being the most knowledgeable about your roster I was interested in finding out what your assets are. Trade debates can get adversarial so I’m not looking for the usual, we’d never give you x for pascal, x is way too valuable. I’m just interested in what you guys would see as your assets that are available. As an outsider, it seems like you have one 2027 first and then maybe josh green, Jaden Hardy and Tim Hardaway?

I’m leaving out Christian Wood not because *I* know he’s not good, I’ve just heard a fair bit of negativity from some media types. If you disagree feel free to include him.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. If you want any raptor info feel free to ask.

Read on Twitter


Dallas has nothing Masai would want at the moment. The Knicks can come up with a better package with picks included.
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1371 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:38 am

arkuo wrote:
raps95 wrote:Hi there, Raptors fan here. A twitter acct that called Fred and Dillon to the rockets the day before it happened is saying we are in discussions with the Knicks, Hawks, and Mavericks about Pascal.

Not being the most knowledgeable about your roster I was interested in finding out what your assets are. Trade debates can get adversarial so I’m not looking for the usual, we’d never give you x for pascal, x is way too valuable. I’m just interested in what you guys would see as your assets that are available. As an outsider, it seems like you have one 2027 first and then maybe josh green, Jaden Hardy and Tim Hardaway?

I’m leaving out Christian Wood not because *I* know he’s not good, I’ve just heard a fair bit of negativity from some media types. If you disagree feel free to include him.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. If you want any raptor info feel free to ask.

Read on Twitter


Dallas has nothing Masai would want at the moment. The Knicks can come up with a better package with picks included.


Siakam will not be traded to Mavs. Sure.
Apz
Head Coach
Posts: 6,764
And1: 2,501
Joined: Jan 18, 2019
 

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1372 » by Apz » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:11 am

raps95 wrote:Hi there, Raptors fan here. A twitter acct that called Fred and Dillon to the rockets the day before it happened is saying we are in discussions with the Knicks, Hawks, and Mavericks about Pascal.

Not being the most knowledgeable about your roster I was interested in finding out what your assets are. Trade debates can get adversarial so I’m not looking for the usual, we’d never give you x for pascal, x is way too valuable. I’m just interested in what you guys would see as your assets that are available. As an outsider, it seems like you have one 2027 first and then maybe josh green, Jaden Hardy and Tim Hardaway?

I’m leaving out Christian Wood not because *I* know he’s not good, I’ve just heard a fair bit of negativity from some media types. If you disagree feel free to include him.

Thanks in advance for any feedback. If you want any raptor info feel free to ask.

Read on Twitter


Its that time of year. Every player a team tries to offload has mavs thrown in as "rumoured". Also said himself he is a rental, so no point in burning assets
Maverick41
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,947
And1: 3,161
Joined: Dec 26, 2009
 

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1373 » by Maverick41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:47 am

Read on Twitter


This is from the Twitter account that's been predicting quite a bit of stuff all offseason.

Please be true.
BliscoSantos
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,744
And1: 972
Joined: Oct 11, 2022
   

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1374 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Jul 4, 2023 7:48 am

Mavs need a SF,PF and a C ...Oubre,PJ Washington and Allen would all be good additions
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1375 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:07 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Read on Twitter


This is from the Twitter account that's been predicting quite a bit of stuff all offseason.

Please be true.


Huge pick if true... Maybe better than Williams...
User avatar
41Dirk41
Head Coach
Posts: 7,113
And1: 2,518
Joined: Mar 26, 2021
     

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1376 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:08 am

BliscoSantos wrote:Mavs need a SF,PF and a C ...Oubre,PJ Washington and Allen would all be good additions


I hope Green will be our starting SF for 10years... If they don't trust him so trade him now until his value is high.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,422
And1: 2,108
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1377 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:36 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Plumlee isn't what we need, bad defender.

Obviously he is a better basketball player than Powell but seems we have to die with him in the roster(hopeful not on the court at least).

Craig was our perfect Sf/pf from the bench. Damn.

Craig was very unimpressive for the Lukas Sons and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if he signed for vet min for CHI it's probably because PHX didn't want him back. Wouldn't have shifted the needle for us in any way.


I immagine how Powell and Exum will shift the needle for us...

Craig started 60games last year in Phoenix and averages 7+5 with 39,5%(44% in PO) for 3s in 25minutes.Solid RS role player.
I don't become mad for him but it would have more sense than someone else... Coff coff.
At least he plays in the spot where we have a big hole.

I repeat, it's evident PHX had no interest in bringing him back, I think that tells us all we need to see here.

You know me well enough to know I would have never signed neither Powell nor Exum... so don't try to whatabout me here. 2 bad signings don't make another potential bad signing any better. :lol:
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,422
And1: 2,108
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1378 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:38 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Read on Twitter


This is from the Twitter account that's been predicting quite a bit of stuff all offseason.

Please be true.

Doesn't fix our rebounding or defense issues but he always looked great against us, so I'm all for it.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,422
And1: 2,108
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1379 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:39 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Mavs need a SF,PF and a C ...Oubre,PJ Washington and Allen would all be good additions


I hope Green will be our starting SF for 10years... If they don't trust him so trade him now until his value is high.

If Josh can just raise his consistency level a bit we should be good. Last year he was anywhere from looking like a superstar to being completely invisible - luckily more on the star side of things than not but the disappearing acts hurt, he needs to eliminate them more.
User avatar
dirkules_41
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,422
And1: 2,108
Joined: Mar 06, 2007
       

Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023 offseason thread 

Post#1380 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:46 am

1 hour ago – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com
Dallas came to terms on a new deal with longtime Mavericks big man Dwight Powell specifically on Saturday, league sources say, because the Houston Rockets went after Powell. The Rockets then shifted their attention to former Suns center Jock Landale when Powell opted to stay put.


Welp

Return to Dallas Mavericks