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How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason?

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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#141 » by leolozon » Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:16 am

Why is no one factoring that he is doing it against the Jazz who have let guards feast on them for the last 3 years?

Remember Murray in the bubble? Memphis guards went off. Mann and Jackson went off when Kawhi got hurt and were incredibly efficient all series.

We need to see him in other series. They'll have to pay him, but looking at what he is doing against just the Jazz isn't enough considering the past Jazz series.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#142 » by HMFFL » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:08 pm

fuller4379 wrote:Per Tim MacMahon -

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33801390/nba-playoffs-2022-jalen-brunson-star-turn-dallas-mavericks-massive-free-agency-implications

"NBA pro personnel scouts and executives polled by ESPN for this story anticipate that the floor for Brunson's next contract will be an average annual salary of $20 million. The high end of the estimates range around $25 million per year."

"The Knicks, who could give Brunson the opportunity to be a full-time primary ball handler, need to shed salary to have the flexibility to sign him but could feasibly create $20 million or more in cap space. League sources say the Mavs have no intention of cooperating in potential sign-and-trade scenarios."
Our system seems to be more ideal for Brunson than New York. While Luka does dominate the ball, New York has RJ, and some of his teammates that are young & are still trying to make a name for themselves.

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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#143 » by Mr B » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:33 pm

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arkuo wrote:This would all depend on how much Cuban is willing to offer IMO. And if the other party finds the offer "respectable". Normally a family member who has multi million dollar dreams can be a distraction in negotiations.

For conversation sake, there are two teams you can S&T him to in case talks break down.

Detroit for Jerami Grant
New York for Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel (probably)

Both deals suck for Dallas but Brunson is UFA and does not owe Dallas the courtesy of a sign and trade. Same goes with the team of his destination having no obligation to help Dallas with talent.

Everyone always mentions Detroit and New York because they have cap space but what if a team that doesn’t have cap space approaches Brunson about a S&T. What teams without cap space would be willing to do a S&T?



To narrow it down, they have to be teams that need a real PG and teams that are located in cities Brunson likes to live in for him to facilitate a S&T. He is UFA so he's got the say, not Dallas.

Right I get that Brunson holds all the cards. But what teams are in need of a PG that don’t have cap space that Brunson would be interested in?
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#144 » by Archx » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:01 pm

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Mr B wrote:Everyone always mentions Detroit and New York because they have cap space but what if a team that doesn’t have cap space approaches Brunson about a S&T. What teams without cap space would be willing to do a S&T?



To narrow it down, they have to be teams that need a real PG and teams that are located in cities Brunson likes to live in for him to facilitate a S&T. He is UFA so he's got the say, not Dallas.

Right I get that Brunson holds all the cards. But what teams are in need of a PG that don’t have cap space that Brunson would be interested in?


No one outside of Mavs probably. There are teams like NYK who will probably throw a kitchen sink at Brunson but Cuban will look really foolish if he doesn't match. I think there is 99% chance that Jalen stays in Dallas. He never even hinted that he wants to leave.

I believe his dad was a bit offended that Mavs didn't want to sign his son when he came to them with a 10-12M per year contract and Mavs declined, now he just wans to get paid after dominant performance in playoffs.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#145 » by Mr B » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:04 pm

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To narrow it down, they have to be teams that need a real PG and teams that are located in cities Brunson likes to live in for him to facilitate a S&T. He is UFA so he's got the say, not Dallas.

Right I get that Brunson holds all the cards. But what teams are in need of a PG that don’t have cap space that Brunson would be interested in?


No one outside of Mavs probably. There are teams like NYK who will probably throw a kitchen sink at Brunson but Cuban will look really foolish if he doesn't match. I think there is 99% chance that Jalen stays in Dallas. He never even hinted that he wants to leave.

I believe his dad was a bit offended that Mavs didn't want to sign his son when he came to them with a 10-12M per year contract and Mavs declined, now he just wans to get paid after dominant performance in playoffs.

He should be thanking Mark Cuban instead of being offended. Cuban just helped him make $10M more than he was asking for.
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Post#146 » by Archx » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:09 pm

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Mr B wrote:Right I get that Brunson holds all the cards. But what teams are in need of a PG that don’t have cap space that Brunson would be interested in?


No one outside of Mavs probably. There are teams like NYK who will probably throw a kitchen sink at Brunson but Cuban will look really foolish if he doesn't match. I think there is 99% chance that Jalen stays in Dallas. He never even hinted that he wants to leave.

I believe his dad was a bit offended that Mavs didn't want to sign his son when he came to them with a 10-12M per year contract and Mavs declined, now he just wans to get paid after dominant performance in playoffs.

He should be thanking Mark Cuban instead of being offended. Cuban just helped him make $10M more than he was asking for.


Heh yea true but you know how it is. His dad said they were dissapointed etc, could say they were a bit offended that Mavs signed DFS but not Jalen so....It's a pride thing. If any other team offers same amount as Mavs, i think Jalen will still rather stay than leave.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#147 » by Mr B » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:11 pm

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No one outside of Mavs probably. There are teams like NYK who will probably throw a kitchen sink at Brunson but Cuban will look really foolish if he doesn't match. I think there is 99% chance that Jalen stays in Dallas. He never even hinted that he wants to leave.

I believe his dad was a bit offended that Mavs didn't want to sign his son when he came to them with a 10-12M per year contract and Mavs declined, now he just wans to get paid after dominant performance in playoffs.

He should be thanking Mark Cuban instead of being offended. Cuban just helped him make $10M more than he was asking for.


Heh yea true but you know how it is. His dad said they were dissapointed etc, could say they were a bit offended that Mavs signed DFS but not Jalen so....It's a pride thing. If any other team offers same amount as Mavs, i think Jalen will still rather stay than leave.

That’s what I think too.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#148 » by Mavrelous » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:37 pm

Archx wrote:
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arkuo wrote:

To narrow it down, they have to be teams that need a real PG and teams that are located in cities Brunson likes to live in for him to facilitate a S&T. He is UFA so he's got the say, not Dallas.

Right I get that Brunson holds all the cards. But what teams are in need of a PG that don’t have cap space that Brunson would be interested in?


No one outside of Mavs probably. There are teams like NYK who will probably throw a kitchen sink at Brunson but Cuban will look really foolish if he doesn't match. I think there is 99% chance that Jalen stays in Dallas. He never even hinted that he wants to leave.

I believe his dad was a bit offended that Mavs didn't want to sign his son when he came to them with a 10-12M per year contract and Mavs declined, now he just wans to get paid after dominant performance in playoffs.


I don't think this story is true (His dad wanting him to sign DFS contract).
If it was true they would've traded him before the deadline, DET was interested, and I'm sure many others would've paid (CLE absolutely would've killed to have him IMO).
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#149 » by fuller4379 » Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:33 pm

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Post#150 » by aad » Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:21 pm

Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT
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Post#151 » by Apz » Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:30 pm

aad wrote:Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT


They will if they get value back if brunson says he has decided to move
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Post#152 » by Archx » Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:30 pm

aad wrote:Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT


Because Knicks fans and media are pushing this narrative and Brunson family having ties with the Knicks franchise. I do believe they can make a cap room if they make a trade or two.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#153 » by Mr B » Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:42 pm

aad wrote:Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT

Because they have a serious hard on for him. He’s a good young, gritty PG. Knicks have always loved those kind of PG’s.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#154 » by BlueSan » Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:31 pm

Depends how playoffs end. If Mavs advance and in the next series he sucks not that much.... if he shines max 25 mils I would say
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#155 » by Bob8 » Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:36 pm

Mr B wrote:
aad wrote:Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT

Because they have a serious hard on for him. He’s a good young, gritty PG. Knicks have always loved those kind of PG’s.


The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#156 » by Mr B » Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:49 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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aad wrote:Why do people keep saying New York they don’t even have cap space and the mavs said they not with doing a SNT

Because they have a serious hard on for him. He’s a good young, gritty PG. Knicks have always loved those kind of PG’s.


The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.

Has that ever mattered to the Knicks though?
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Post#157 » by Maverick41 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:00 am

Bob8 wrote:The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.

I think the "he's not a PG" thing is overrated in today's NBA. Truth is a vast majority of the starting PGs in today's NBA are score first including many who are the top of assists (Trae, Luka, Harden, Ja, etc.).

Brunson has proven already on multiple occasions that he can run a team as a "PG" when he needs to. He averages 7.5 apg when Luka doesn't play this season. He's not just an undersized scorer anymore.
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Post#158 » by fuller4379 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:24 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.

I think the "he's not a PG" thing is overrated in today's NBA. Truth is a vast majority of the starting PGs in today's NBA are score first including many who are the top of assists (Trae, Luka, Harden, Ja, etc.).

Brunson has proven already on multiple occasions that he can run a team as a "PG" when he needs to. He averages 7.5 apg when Luka doesn't play this season. He's not just an undersized scorer anymore.


I like Brunson too. He is a nice versatile guard. He can be either a PG when Luka is on the bench or be an undersized SG. With Luka doing PG on offense, they can switch on defense so he doesn't have to guard the other team's SG. If the Mavs don't keep Luka, we will have a gaping hole on offense.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#159 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:35 am

Maverick41 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.

I think the "he's not a PG" thing is overrated in today's NBA. Truth is a vast majority of the starting PGs in today's NBA are score first including many who are the top of assists (Trae, Luka, Harden, Ja, etc.).

Brunson has proven already on multiple occasions that he can run a team as a "PG" when he needs to. He averages 7.5 apg when Luka doesn't play this season. He's not just an undersized scorer anymore.

If Brunson is not a PG then neither is Curry.
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Re: How Much Is Jalen Brunson Worth In The Offseason? 

Post#160 » by Maverick41 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:42 am

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Bob8 wrote:The problem is that he's not a Pg, he just looks like Pg. I don't know, if undersized scorer is worth 25+ mio.

I think the "he's not a PG" thing is overrated in today's NBA. Truth is a vast majority of the starting PGs in today's NBA are score first including many who are the top of assists (Trae, Luka, Harden, Ja, etc.).

Brunson has proven already on multiple occasions that he can run a team as a "PG" when he needs to. He averages 7.5 apg when Luka doesn't play this season. He's not just an undersized scorer anymore.

If Brunson is not a PG then neither is Curry.

100% agree. As fans of a team that employs a wing at PG (Luka), we should know that positions and positional duties just doesn't matter as much in today's NBA as it did a decade or so ago.

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