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Post#141 » by TimberKat » Thu Oct 26, 2023 1:52 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Wemby gets in big foul trouble and misses a huge chunk of the game. Spurs lose to Dallas. I don't expect that to happen very often.

Looks like Dallas found the only way to stop Wemby :D Did you see how many lob passes Luka and Kyrie throw to Lively? None of them were below his head. Wolves need to watch this game film.
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Post#142 » by TimberKat » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:19 am

Dame had an unbelievable start with MIL- 39pts. Should had find a way to trade Towns for him. Maybe Towns for Harden in mid season :D
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Post#143 » by KGdaBom » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:36 am

Prince starting bad for the Lakers and my fantasy team tonight.
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Post#144 » by Calinks » Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:15 am

So much fun watching the NBA be back and some of the new players on their teams. I really hope this isn't like last year where we saw all of these new additions being awesome fits and we were bumbling around like jackasses. I do enjoy watching the other teams and seeing the fans get hyped but damn, I want us to enjoy that energy too.
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Post#145 » by TimberKat » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:07 am

After watching Holmgren for 1/2 a game. I am ready for a Towns for Holmgren trade. Holmgren is a more natural small forward / power forward. He is definitely not a center but looks like can take the punishment at the forward spot in today's NBA (Just don't play against LBJ). Overall Towns is a better player but Holmgren maybe a better fit. OKC will have a legit all star pairing with SGA. Adding Giddey, the other support cast and a third of all 1st round picks for the next 30 years, they will have a bright future. I will have to change my handle to TimberStick. :D
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Post#146 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:08 am

Chet might be this era's KG or AK47. Maybe not the defender they were but he might be a utility, does it all kind of guy. Like the Ultra role player who just makes your team go.

The Heat are looking tough again, they will be super motivated tomorrow. I really hope we pull out heads out of our asses because we could get stomped and starting 0-2 with bad losses would be a terrible way to kick this season off for us fans.
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Post#147 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:41 am

Of course, tonight Toronto is making a bunch of boneheaded mistakes, and blowing a game they were dominating.
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Post#148 » by TimberKat » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:46 am

Calinks wrote:Of course, tonight Toronto is making a bunch of boneheaded mistakes, and blowing a game they were dominating.

I just focused on 21.3% 3pt shooting vs 40% the other night :banghead:
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Post#149 » by Calinks » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:58 am

I also don't think the Mavs are going to be as bad as everyone assumes. Not saying they will be good but I think they will be in the mix.
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Post#150 » by younggunsmn » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:01 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Wemby gets in big foul trouble and misses a huge chunk of the game. Spurs lose to Dallas. I don't expect that to happen very often.

Looks like Dallas found the only way to stop Wemby :D Did you see how many lob passes Luka and Kyrie throw to Lively? None of them were below his head. Wolves need to watch this game film.


There are going to be a lot of teams doing that to Wemby this year, he has a long long ways to go as a defender.
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Post#151 » by younggunsmn » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:03 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Wemby gets in big foul trouble and misses a huge chunk of the game. Spurs lose to Dallas. I don't expect that to happen very often.

Looks like Dallas found the only way to stop Wemby :D Did you see how many lob passes Luka and Kyrie throw to Lively? None of them were below his head. Wolves need to watch this game film.


There are going to be a lot of teams doing that to Wemby this year, he has a long long ways to go as a defender.


Chet with 7 blocks and 9 FGA, that is a line I would like to see from Rudy a few times this year.
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Post#152 » by jpatrick » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:17 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:
TimberKat wrote:Looks like Dallas found the only way to stop Wemby :D Did you see how many lob passes Luka and Kyrie throw to Lively? None of them were below his head. Wolves need to watch this game film.


There are going to be a lot of teams doing that to Wemby this year, he has a long long ways to go as a defender.


Chet with 7 blocks and 9 FGA, that is a line I would like to see from Rudy a few times this year.


Chet is a great #2 for SGA. He does things KAT just do, including have much more mental toughness and BBIQ. Unfortunately, his trade value is also exponentially more than KAT.

Wembanyama is a different animal. Let’s not forget that he’s only 19. He changes how the game is played on the defensive end. It’ll take him time to learn nuances but by the second half of this year, I think he’ll be an absolute force. That said, I don’t like San Antonio playing a PG-less lineup. I feel as good as Wemby is now, he still needs someone to put him in “his spots” offensively, as opposed to being an initiator.
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Post#153 » by TimberKat » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:25 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:
There are going to be a lot of teams doing that to Wemby this year, he has a long long ways to go as a defender.


Chet with 7 blocks and 9 FGA, that is a line I would like to see from Rudy a few times this year.


Chet is a great #2 for SGA. He does things KAT just do, including have much more mental toughness and BBIQ. Unfortunately, his trade value is also exponentially more than KAT.

Wembanyama is a different animal. Let’s not forget that he’s only 19. He changes how the game is played on the defensive end. It’ll take him time to learn nuances but by the second half of this year, I think he’ll be an absolute force. That said, I don’t like San Antonio playing a PG-less lineup. I feel as good as Wemby is now, he still needs someone to put him in “his spots” offensively, as opposed to being an initiator.

Interesting and a lot to unpack:

1. I should use green text in my original comment. Wemby pickuped stupid fouls all game and got kick in the face in the DAL game but really turned it on at the end: https://youtu.be/3gIuCl4ZjQo?si=1rkcLJAHkFGhsctB

2. Gobert is not going to get the same stat line as Chet because Cavs go into Chet's body all night, there is where a lot of the blocks came from. Teams aren't doing that with Gobert at this stage of his career. That's why I commented Chet's body is holding up as a forward. You should watch Chet chased a defender from one side of the baseline to the other side of the baseline and end up helping on a open 3pt guy. Both Towns and Gobert needs to do that once a while.

3. Agree with jpatrick and Wemby is already a very good defender. He is already impacting the 3pt shooters. His block timing is just a little off and will get even better once he is used to NBA speed. Don't look at Sengun's stat line as reference to Wemby's defense. Collins plays center in SAS. Don't be surprised to see a Gobert trade to SAS. Gobert/Wemby pick and roll could be deathly. SAS needs more interior defense. Wemby is a great passer. SAS and OKC are doing the right thing to not put Wemby/Chet in as center to reduce their wear and tear.

4. Tre needs to figure out what he can be in the NBA. I don't know how he got 8 Ast last night. It feels to me he was looking more for his own shots than facility the game. If he plays more like JMcL, he will be SAS's starting PG.

5. The only person that is stopping Wemby is Wemby himself. He took some extremely difficult shots in the first half of Rockets game which were unnecessary (one dribble or gather his footing would had resulted in a more balance shot). Also some too early 3s which he can get anytime. So agree, having a PG give him the ball at the right spot would help a lot with that.

6. Now I see why Vassell got the big contract and why he got more money than Keldon. He is a cut above JMcD at this stage.
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Post#154 » by Klomp » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:42 pm

The Spurs are YOUNG. Don't forget that. In their rotation, only Collins (26), Osman (28) and Collins (32) are older than 24. Going in on a Gobert trade, as fun as that would be, would be way too premature for the development of that core.

I see what Wembanyama is doing, and it's frightening! Frightening because I'd argue that 80% of his production so far is just due to his unique physical skill set. He's far from ready to carry his team to the playoffs. He looks a lot like rookie Giannis did. And just like it took Giannis a few years to develop in the NBA, it will take a bit for Victor too.
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Post#155 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:06 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:Wemby gets in big foul trouble and misses a huge chunk of the game. Spurs lose to Dallas. I don't expect that to happen very often.

Looks like Dallas found the only way to stop Wemby :D Did you see how many lob passes Luka and Kyrie throw to Lively? None of them were below his head. Wolves need to watch this game film.


There are going to be a lot of teams doing that to Wemby this year, he has a long long ways to go as a defender.

Wemby will be DPoY this year. I don't know how far he has to go. I mean he will get better, but he's already the best defender in the NBA.
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Post#156 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:10 pm

Klomp wrote:The Spurs are YOUNG. Don't forget that. In their rotation, only Collins (26), Osman (28) and Collins (32) are older than 24. Going in on a Gobert trade, as fun as that would be, would be way too premature for the development of that core.

I see what Wembanyama is doing, and it's frightening! Frightening because I'd argue that 80% of his production so far is just due to his unique physical skill set. He's far from ready to carry his team to the playoffs. He looks a lot like rookie Giannis did. And just like it took Giannis a few years to develop in the NBA, it will take a bit for Victor too.

I stand by my prediction that Spurs make the playoffs.
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Post#157 » by Klomp » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:28 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:The Spurs are YOUNG. Don't forget that. In their rotation, only Collins (26), Osman (28) and Collins (32) are older than 24. Going in on a Gobert trade, as fun as that would be, would be way too premature for the development of that core.

I see what Wembanyama is doing, and it's frightening! Frightening because I'd argue that 80% of his production so far is just due to his unique physical skill set. He's far from ready to carry his team to the playoffs. He looks a lot like rookie Giannis did. And just like it took Giannis a few years to develop in the NBA, it will take a bit for Victor too.

I stand by my prediction that Spurs make the playoffs.

I think you're probably a year early on that prediction. They might make it to the play-in, but I don't think they make it out of there unless someone makes a big jump forward.
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Post#158 » by shrink » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:29 pm

Klomp wrote:
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Klomp wrote:The Spurs are YOUNG. Don't forget that. In their rotation, only Collins (26), Osman (28) and Collins (32) are older than 24. Going in on a Gobert trade, as fun as that would be, would be way too premature for the development of that core.

I see what Wembanyama is doing, and it's frightening! Frightening because I'd argue that 80% of his production so far is just due to his unique physical skill set. He's far from ready to carry his team to the playoffs. He looks a lot like rookie Giannis did. And just like it took Giannis a few years to develop in the NBA, it will take a bit for Victor too.

I stand by my prediction that Spurs make the playoffs.

I think you're probably a year early on that prediction. They might make it to the play-in, but I don't think they make it out of there unless someone makes a big jump forward.

Two years, imo
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Post#159 » by Klomp » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:31 pm

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Klomp wrote:I think you're probably a year early on that prediction. They might make it to the play-in, but I don't think they make it out of there unless someone makes a big jump forward.

Two years, imo

With the current state of the West, you might be right.
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Post#160 » by KGdaBom » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:13 pm

Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:
Klomp wrote:I think you're probably a year early on that prediction. They might make it to the play-in, but I don't think they make it out of there unless someone makes a big jump forward.

Two years, imo

With the current state of the West, you might be right.

I stand by my prediction.

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