Shams: Nikola Jokic Named 2023-24 NBA MVP

AleksandarN · Post #141 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:44 am

Eyeatoma between Realgm replies

eyeatoma · Post #142 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:45 am

Tempe wrote:
damanick10 wrote:
Tempe wrote:Perfect timing as he’s being exposed in the playoffs. Worst 3x MVP in nba history. Future fans will look back and laugh.

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You aren't really exposed when you lead your team to the championship a year before

Last year was the weakest finals win since 99 spurs. Cakewalk to finals only decent team they played was Suns who had just gutted their roster to get KD. Played 8 seed Miami in finals. History will view this title as low value and he won’t win another.

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Preach.

I'd love for there to be analysis of championships based on regular season/post season strength of opponent. Jokic's chip would pale in comparision, and wouldn't even be top 10.

EmpireFalls · Post #143 » by **EmpireFalls** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:45 am

Congrats to him but I think this playoff performance is all people will really remember about this season

DaPessimist · Post #144 » by **DaPessimist** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:45 am

Makes it look easy. Well deserved.

eyeatoma · Post #145 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:45 am

AleksandarN wrote:Eyeatoma between Realgm replies

YOu keep recycling the same GIFs.

Pelon chingon · Post #146 » by **Pelon chingon** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:45 am

Congrats to the Joker best player since Tim Duncan was drafted.

AleksandarN · Post #147 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:46 am

Tempe wrote:
damanick10 wrote:
Tempe wrote:Perfect timing as he’s being exposed in the playoffs. Worst 3x MVP in nba history. Future fans will look back and laugh.

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You aren't really exposed when you lead your team to the championship a year before

Last year was the weakest finals win since 99 spurs. Cakewalk to finals only decent team they played was Suns who had just gutted their roster to get KD. Played 8 seed Miami in finals. History will view this title as low value and he won’t win another.

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I want more tears keep them coming. I am thirsty

HotRocks34 · Post #148 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:47 am

EmpireFalls wrote:Congrats to him but I think this playoff performance is all people will really remember about this season

Nah.

Kareem won his 4th MVP in a year he missed the playoffs.

Many people don't know that, but they know he won a 4th MVP.

AleksandarN · Post #149 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:47 am

eyeatoma wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:Eyeatoma between Realgm replies

YOu keep recycling the same GIFs.

You keep being you. Not my fault these still apply lol

HotRocks34 · Post #150 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:48 am

AleksandarN wrote:
Tempe wrote:
damanick10 wrote:
You aren't really exposed when you lead your team to the championship a year before

Last year was the weakest finals win since 99 spurs. Cakewalk to finals only decent team they played was Suns who had just gutted their roster to get KD. Played 8 seed Miami in finals. History will view this title as low value and he won’t win another.

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I want more tears keep them coming. I am thirsty

There will be plenty more, so settle in and enjoy.

AleksandarN · Post #151 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:49 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Tempe wrote:
damanick10 wrote:
You aren't really exposed when you lead your team to the championship a year before

Last year was the weakest finals win since 99 spurs. Cakewalk to finals only decent team they played was Suns who had just gutted their roster to get KD. Played 8 seed Miami in finals. History will view this title as low value and he won’t win another.

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Preach.

I'd love for there to be analysis of championships based on regular season/post season strength of opponent. Jokic's chip would pale in comparision, and wouldn't even be top 10.

Here’s a new one just for you

lessthanjake · Post #152 » by **lessthanjake** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:50 am

eyeatoma wrote:
lessthanjake wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Congratulations, but the definition of an asterisk MVP.

Shai or Luka should have gotten it, and if Embiid was healthy it would have been his unanimously.

This was more of a most healthy award than anything else.

But Embiid wasn’t healthy. And this isn’t some one-off thing—he’s rarely healthy throughout the regular season (not to mention virtually never healthy in the playoffs). The annals of sports are filled with guys who were great but couldn’t stay healthy, and those guys rightfully don’t win awards or go down as the greatest players.

Would be interesting to put together a top 10 in history of what could have been in history. Not college players like Sam Bowie, or Greg Oden. Players, who flashed a lot of impressive things prior to their demise.

Yeah, there’s a lot of those sorts of guys. Bill Walton, Grant Hill, and Penny Hardaway are a few great examples in the NBA. I’m not convinced that Embiid will ultimately truly end up in that category. He’s arguably in that sort of category right now—though I think he’s been healthy more than those three guys I mentioned. But he’s got time left. The Sixers will potentially have the ability to improve their roster this offseason, with so many contracts expiring (though they’ll have to throw a lot more money at Maxey), and Maxey will be improving. Embiid isn’t going to be a great player for much longer, given his health and the lesser longevity of big men in general, but there’s still a window here for him to have major team success if he happens to be healthy for the playoffs in coming years.

AleksandarN · Post #153 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:51 am

HotRocks34 wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
Tempe wrote:Last year was the weakest finals win since 99 spurs. Cakewalk to finals only decent team they played was Suns who had just gutted their roster to get KD. Played 8 seed Miami in finals. History will view this title as low value and he won’t win another.

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I want more tears keep them coming. I am thirsty

There will be plenty more, so settle in and enjoy.

Oh I am here for it

HotRocks34 · Post #154 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:55 am

Winning mentality.

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eyeatoma · Post #155 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:56 am

Tempe wrote:Big win for spreadsheet ball nerds and the Eastern European contingent on this forum. Congrats yall.

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hahaha were have you been all of my life!

HotRocks34 · Post #156 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:56 am

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eyeatoma · Post #157 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:56 am

HotRocks34 wrote:Winning mentality.

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Easier to say after you've won. This whole shctick about him not caring about the MVP is so lame. If that's the case he doesn't care about the chip either, given how much he loves his horses and couldn't wait to get out of there.

AleksandarN · Post #158 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:58 am

Tempe wrote:Big win for spreadsheet ball nerds and the Eastern European contingent on this forum. Congrats yall.

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Love the tears. Got anymore?

Post #159 » by **Diop** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:58 am

lessthanjake wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Congratulations, but the definition of an asterisk MVP.

Shai or Luka should have gotten it, and if Embiid was healthy it would have been his unanimously.

This was more of a most healthy award than anything else.

But Embiid wasn’t healthy. And this isn’t some one-off thing—he’s rarely healthy throughout the regular season (not to mention virtually never healthy in the playoffs). The annals of sports are filled with guys who were great but couldn’t stay healthy, and those guys rightfully don’t win awards or go down as the greatest players, because those accolades are not about hypotheticals.

big reason Bill Walton only won 1 MVP

HotRocks34 · Post #160 » by **HotRocks34** » Thu May 9, 2024 12:58 am

MV3 speaks

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