2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4)

[mpharris36]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

[thebuzzardman]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

He is. I've seen the questionnaire.

Question # 23
"How do you feel about living amongst, and having as your fans, crazy caucasian cultists?"

[robillionaire]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

We will have to hope he is able to adapt to the new environment and demographic. Plus our team goals are probably different, he’s going from seeking out nba ready win now guys to a rebuild so that should impact his approach

[mpharris36]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

We will have to hope he is able to adapt to the new environment and demographic. Plus our team goals are probably different, he’s going from seeking out nba ready win now guys to a rebuild so that should impact his approach

I mean if he's finding us Donovan Mitchell late in the lottery, Rudy Gobert late in the 1st round, and Joe Ingles as overseas type prospects. He doesn't need to adapt to NY. Those all would be wonderful fits here

But it should even open up the draft pool for him but I wouldn't totally rule out still going after certain players. While Utah is a culture shock. NY can overwhelm a young kid that isn't focused.

[robillionaire]

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

We will have to hope he is able to adapt to the new environment and demographic. Plus our team goals are probably different, he’s going from seeking out nba ready win now guys to a rebuild so that should impact his approach

I mean if he's finding us Donovan Mitchell late in the lottery, Rudy Gobert late in the 1st round, and Joe Ingles as overseas type prospects. He doesn't need to adapt to NY. Those all would be wonderful fits here

But it should even open up the draft pool for him but I wouldn't totally rule out still going after certain players. While Utah is a culture shock. NY can overwhelm a young kid that isn't focused.

Yeah that's what I mean, they both can be a culture shock just in opposite ways, here he needs to find out who can handle the city and media without getting lost in the sauce

[3toheadmelo]

*FRANCE*

typo

We all know that ain’t true

Everyone one but you knows thats true. Frank couldn't play in that tourny...he was too busy dominating team USA at the time in the big boy tournament.

Nah everyone but you know that isn’t true. You try to give him props in every argument when he is not even relevant to the convo. Why do you think Illmatic and others called you his soccer mom. You can’t help yourself

You’re basically saying you wanted to say France twice in the same sentence which makes no sense. And typos usually consist of 1 letter being misspelled. France and Frank are 2 letters off. If a “typo” has a clear difference between two words then that isn’t a typo my guy lol. So yeah we ain’t falling for that lol

[Mecca]

I have Synergy access and have been absolutely hammering LaMelo, Killian and Haliburton tape.

I will have a Medium piece up within the week.


LaMelo is the clear #1 pick if your team is desperate at PG. I like Onyeka a lot as well, just not for the Knicks.

Some raw notes I have that haven't been articulated properly yet.

- Ambidextrous around the rim, finishing with off-hand as well as his right.
- Body hesitations, head fakes, and shimmy's help him create space more than athleticism.
- At his most confident when initiating the PnR. Often makes the correct read, and has a Luka-like ability to whip it out off the penetration. Toys with help defenders.
- In transition struggles, mostly because he thinks he's Ray Allen with the pull-ups.
- Defensively, a lot of the time the effort isn't there. Rotations are lazy, but feels like it could be related to his over-effort on offense.
- The handle is as strong as his passing ability and what makes him deadly.

[WargamesX]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

On the low “high character” players seem to have been the goal since Shump and JR left. Same reason why when Noah got here they isolated him (besides sucking). Cleanthony getting shot at a strip club, Felton with a gun, Kidd’s DWI. It was a point there for a few years it got real bad. Right now Dolan is the biggest degenerate on the team and they got to deal with that.

I think KP wasn’t who they thought he was because he was from overseas. However, beyond that all the rest of the youth drafted, and FA have been drama free gym rats/family types.

[Richard4444]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

But Utah picked Grayson Allen who looked like a. Psycho in College.

[mpharris36]

We all know that ain’t true

Everyone one but you knows thats true. Frank couldn't play in that tourny...he was too busy dominating team USA at the time in the big boy tournament.

Nah everyone but you know that isn’t true. You try to give him props in every argument when he is not even relevant to the convo. Why do you think Illmatic and others called you his soccer mom. You can’t help yourself

You’re basically saying you wanted to say France twice in the same sentence which makes no sense. And typos usually consist of 1 letter being misspelled. France and Frank are 2 letters off. If a “typo” has a clear difference between two words then that isn’t a typo my guy lol. So yeah we ain’t falling for that lol

[mpharris36]

So I read up on Perrin and two thoughts for this thread

1) He believes in draft BPA every time, and has been quoted saying so.
2) He says this draft after about 15 guys is basically equal, aka code word for no real standouts. His opinion last year on the record was that the draft was really top heavy (and the jazz traded out).

Anyhow just food for thought this adds weight to the idea we may not go PG if say, Wiseman, Toppin, or Devi are available. Also, I definitely see the knicks trying to move up this draft. Picks #15 -#17 are all with teams that may trade out for a variety of reasons.

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

But Utah picked Grayson Allen who looked like a. Psycho in College.

yeah everyone has misses. Trey Burke + Grayson Allen (but he was like the 21st selection) that is a crap shoot that far down the line.

[Richard4444]

Another note. If you watched knicksfantv. They had a Utah Jazz beat reporter that Perrin also was big on drafting character guys. Since they are drafting them to Utah that have to select guys that need to be ok with less of a night life, more gym grinders, family type guys. The demographic in Utah is different so it can be a culture shock for players who aren't prepared.

So they really dive deep into there everday lives just not there abilities on the court.

Seems like he is pretty thorough throughout the process.

But Utah picked Grayson Allen who looked like a. Psycho in College.

yeah everyone has misses. Trey Burke + Grayson Allen (but he was like the 21st selection) that is a crap shoot that far down the line.

A Guy infamous for tripping opponets doesnt look like a high caracther and family Guy archetype.

[WargamesX]

But Utah picked Grayson Allen who looked like a. Psycho in College.

yeah everyone has misses. Trey Burke + Grayson Allen (but he was like the 21st selection) that is a crap shoot that far down the line.

A Guy infamous for tripping opponets doesnt look like a high caracther and family Guy archetype.

He does in Utah......

[mpharris36]

But Utah picked Grayson Allen who looked like a. Psycho in College.

yeah everyone has misses. Trey Burke + Grayson Allen (but he was like the 21st selection) that is a crap shoot that far down the line.

A Guy infamous for tripping opponets doesnt look like a high caracther and family Guy archetype.

Yeah I mean he is a douche on the court. No doubt about that but he might be totally different outside the game.

lets face it, he also is white...and that fits Utah demographic as well...

[WargamesX]

So ummm what prospects are high character? I know there is a story about Haliburton getting lunch with his mom after some game when the rest of the team went out to have fun.

I don't think I have heard anything too bad about any player?

[robillionaire]

I have Synergy access and have been absolutely hammering LaMelo, Killian and Haliburton tape.

I will have a Medium piece up within the week.


LaMelo is the clear #1 pick if your team is desperate at PG. I like Onyeka a lot as well, just not for the Knicks.

Some raw notes I have that haven't been articulated properly yet.

- Ambidextrous around the rim, finishing with off-hand as well as his right.
- Body hesitations, head fakes, and shimmy's help him create space more than athleticism.
- At his most confident when initiating the PnR. Often makes the correct read, and has a Luka-like ability to whip it out off the penetration. Toys with help defenders.
- In transition struggles, mostly because he thinks he's Ray Allen with the pull-ups.
- Defensively, a lot of the time the effort isn't there. Rotations are lazy, but feels like it could be related to his over-effort on offense.
- The handle is as strong as his passing ability and what makes him deadly.

looking forward to it.

[3toheadmelo]

Everyone one but you knows thats true. Frank couldn't play in that tourny...he was too busy dominating team USA at the time in the big boy tournament.

Nah everyone but you know that isn’t true. You try to give him props in every argument when he is not even relevant to the convo. Why do you think Illmatic and others called you his soccer mom. You can’t help yourself

You’re basically saying you wanted to say France twice in the same sentence which makes no sense. And typos usually consist of 1 letter being misspelled. France and Frank are 2 letters off. If a “typo” has a clear difference between two words then that isn’t a typo my guy lol. So yeah we ain’t falling for that lol

The fact you used a Joe Biden gif.. you just solidified my case

[robillionaire]

So ummm what prospects are high character? I know there is a story about Haliburton getting lunch with his mom after some game when the rest of the team went out to have fun.

I don't think I have heard anything too bad about any player?

lamelo's character has been getting trashed by the media his whole life but hopefully papa perrin will see through the smoke and get our guy here

[robillionaire]

yeah everyone has misses. Trey Burke + Grayson Allen (but he was like the 21st selection) that is a crap shoot that far down the line.

A Guy infamous for tripping opponets doesnt look like a high caracther and family Guy archetype.

Yeah I mean he is a douche on the court. No doubt about that but he might be totally different outside the game.

lets face it, he also is white...and that fits Utah demographic as well...

maybe he likes to fish

[mpharris36]

Nah everyone but you know that isn’t true. You try to give him props in every argument when he is not even relevant to the convo. Why do you think Illmatic and others called you his soccer mom. You can’t help yourself

You’re basically saying you wanted to say France twice in the same sentence which makes no sense. And typos usually consist of 1 letter being misspelled. France and Frank are 2 letters off. If a “typo” has a clear difference between two words then that isn’t a typo my guy lol. So yeah we ain’t falling for that lol

The fact you used a Joe Biden gif.. you just solidified my case

the fact that you are looking that far into a GIF makes me question your sanity