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Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1541 » by stilldropin20 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:38 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:I think that the country is split on this issue... I agree with Zonk on this one - a nice tax per gun would be helpful. Having to pass a test like a driving test would be fine too. But - nothing is going to change until these numbers change.

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Gun safety classes should be something both sides agree on. That's supposedly one of the purposes of the NRA - to promote gun safety. And they could be involved in making and providing the tests and classes.


The guns per capita statistics suggest that there's more guns than citizens in this country, I just don't see how anything but an outright repeal of the 2nd amendment is going to make a difference here.

I’m A second amendment hawk. In fact, I’m in entire bill of rights hawk.

So let’s negotiate And here’s what I’ll concede:

I’ll concede full mental health background checks for any and all guns including renewal licenses annually. but in doing that the civil libertarians must concede any Hippa violations that might occur.

And most importantly I will consider a full ban automatic weapons and bump stocks including search and seizure of those weapons while tracing all past sales.

And in conceding these two things above I request a full and detailed collection of data where we begin profiling children around third or fourth grade for mental health issues or violence. I will not concede those two items about with this very important item included in the legislation because I believe bad people pull triggers. guns don’t kill, people pull the triggers.

And finally I request that armed retired military are hired as security guards at schools. And schools are design better predators out with fencing, walls, and single points of entry.


I think this is a great start. Who’s with me?





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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1542 » by closg00 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:45 pm

This is very wonky, but it's an excellent segment that shows what kind of human garbage Paul Manafort is.
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Post#1543 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:17 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I live in Lithuania, we have extremely strict gun laws, and I feel very safe here, I dont think we ever had a shooting or anything. As a very suicidal person, I feel if I lived in USA, I would probably have blown my brains out long time ago. Maybe not, maybe I am just thinking gun would be easy way out because I dont have a gun and I cant do it, but thats beside the point.

The right to bear arms is outdated and ridiculous to me. Gun is a tool to kill, how is that the right for everyone to have such a thing? Makes zero sense to me. Its not a basic right like some Americans act, voting is basic and no brainer right, owning a killing tool is just completely different, What if constitution said you can own mass destruction weapon, would you act like its a basic right too, give me a break?
And don't go at me and say that crazies would get guns illegally, laws wouldnt change a thing just effect law-abiding citizens. Bull ****, as I said I live in a country with very strict gun laws, we dont have guns around, we dont feel like we have less rights that way, and guess what, gun laws parallelly effects illegal gun availability. We dont have black markets, we cant steal guns from others, because just nobody has it. The easiest way to get a gun for me would probably be trying to rob a policemen if I think about it. In America, I imagine it would be way way easier to get a gun, even if I couldn't get it legally.
If you think you wouldn't feel safe in home if you had no gun, I dont know what to say, but I think you get it backwards. If I knew all my neighbours and acquaintances had guns or had easy way of getting one, I wouldn't feel safe at all. Owning gun myself wouldn't change that. I feel much safer knowing we dont have guns around.

American gun laws are absurd, and I am amazed that sensible Americans haven't overthrown these gun nuts who are holding on to their absurd right. I truly believe that the reason why America has those particular laws are because of nut people, not because of ordinary people. Some immature jerks just have fetish for guns, I do not believe that they believe having those laws and rights makes America better, they are just selfish, they dont care for others, they only care for themselves! Look, I am a man, I understand the fetish for guns, when I was a kid, we all had king cobras that shoot bennies, we all had that stuff, it was fun shooting things and pretend you are Rambo or something, but sometime you must grow up. How many more mass shootings will it take?


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1544 » by cammac » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:20 pm

HUSH MONEY????
One of the central characters in the Trump infidelities is being paid $15,000 a month by the RNC for consulting? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Guess its for him to teach the Repugs to be more desecrate in there affairs ,nude photos and abortions for girl friends. :crazy: :crazy: Keith Schiller the Trumpster's body man just got a sweet deal. Mueller unlike Ken Star has not gone after the many publicized sexual assaults and consensual affairs.
According to an RNC official, Schiller is being paid for security consulting on the site selection process for the 2020 Republican National Convention. Schiller's fee comes out of the RNC's convention fund, and not its campaign fund, the official noted.

Campaign finance watchdog groups, however, were quick to cry foul.

"These sorts of party accounts are notorious for being operated as slush funds – lightly regulated and ripe for abuse," said Stephen Spaulding, former special counsel at the Federal Election Commission and now chief of strategy at the nonpartisan advocacy group Common Cause


"Trump's bodyguard's firm is getting a fat payout from the RNC and its deep pocketed donors," said Spaulding, who noted that individual contributors "can give a whopping $101,700 per year to the RNC's convention account."

Already, Schiller's $15,000 monthly "site selection consulting fee" is more than he made working in the White House, where his annual salary was $165,000. It's also more than Schiller made working for the Trump campaign, which reported paying KS Global Group $10,000 a month starting in July of 2016.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743512/-RNC-is-using-a-slush-fund-to-pay-Trump-s-former-bodyguard-15-000-per-month-for-consulting
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1545 » by cammac » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:44 pm

One of SD20s hero's is back in the news again for all the wrong reasons. I'm sure that SD20 would enjoy beers together and feed each other conspiracy theories. I have never seen Nate being pro Sheriff but then again he is black.
Former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. insinuated Wednesday that student survivors of the Parkland, Fla., school shooting were being manipulated by Democratic billionaire George Soros to organize for gun control.

Question SD20 do you wear a cowboy hat as well?
Clarke, who resigned as sheriff last year amid speculation he would join the Trump administration, now serves as senior adviser and spokesman for the pro-Trump America First Action PAC. He is scheduled to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) later this week.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374840-david-clarke-fla-students-gun-control-push-has-george-soros
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1546 » by gtn130 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:58 pm

cammac wrote:HUSH MONEY????
One of the central characters in the Trump infidelities is being paid $15,000 a month by the RNC for consulting? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Guess its for him to teach the Repugs to be more desecrate in there affairs ,nude photos and abortions for girl friends. :crazy: :crazy: Keith Schiller the Trumpster's body man just got a sweet deal. Mueller unlike Ken Star has not gone after the many publicized sexual assaults and consensual affairs.
According to an RNC official, Schiller is being paid for security consulting on the site selection process for the 2020 Republican National Convention. Schiller's fee comes out of the RNC's convention fund, and not its campaign fund, the official noted.

Campaign finance watchdog groups, however, were quick to cry foul.

"These sorts of party accounts are notorious for being operated as slush funds – lightly regulated and ripe for abuse," said Stephen Spaulding, former special counsel at the Federal Election Commission and now chief of strategy at the nonpartisan advocacy group Common Cause


"Trump's bodyguard's firm is getting a fat payout from the RNC and its deep pocketed donors," said Spaulding, who noted that individual contributors "can give a whopping $101,700 per year to the RNC's convention account."

Already, Schiller's $15,000 monthly "site selection consulting fee" is more than he made working in the White House, where his annual salary was $165,000. It's also more than Schiller made working for the Trump campaign, which reported paying KS Global Group $10,000 a month starting in July of 2016.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743512/-RNC-is-using-a-slush-fund-to-pay-Trump-s-former-bodyguard-15-000-per-month-for-consulting


This won't move the needle for Nate et al - it's actually probably a good thing somehow.

But email server management and FISA warrant application process are the greatest cases of corruption in human history
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1547 » by Wizardspride » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:12 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1548 » by closg00 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:34 pm

Can the House of Cards be brought down without Manafort flipping?^^
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Post#1549 » by cammac » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:30 pm

I wonder if General Kelly will deport this young man personally he definitely is making General Bone Spurs look bad!
Immigrant teen credited with saving lives of at least 20 of his fellow Parkland students
Moved by the Florida student’s actions, U.S. soccer player Landon Donovan rallied his soccer fans to donate to help the teenager’s family.

“One of our own was a hero last week and needs our help,” Donovan wrote on his Twitter account.

Borges’ GoFundMe had raised more than $446,000 as of Tuesday afternoon from nearly 14,000 donations. The legitimacy of the fundraising page was confirmed by the Broward County Sheriff’s Office.

The hospital says it can’t release any details on his condition. It says only that he and three other injured victims from the shooting recovering at Broward Health hospitals are all in “fair condition.” The Sheriff’s Office says that he “has a long road ahead with more surgeries needed.”


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743436/-Immigrant-teen-credited-with-saving-lives-of-at-least-20-of-his-fellow-Parkland-students
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Post#1550 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:28 am

cammac wrote:HUSH MONEY????
One of the central characters in the Trump infidelities is being paid $15,000 a month by the RNC for consulting? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Guess its for him to teach the Repugs to be more desecrate in there affairs ,nude photos and abortions for girl friends. :crazy: :crazy: Keith Schiller the Trumpster's body man just got a sweet deal. Mueller unlike Ken Star has not gone after the many publicized sexual assaults and consensual affairs.
According to an RNC official, Schiller is being paid for security consulting on the site selection process for the 2020 Republican National Convention. Schiller's fee comes out of the RNC's convention fund, and not its campaign fund, the official noted.

Campaign finance watchdog groups, however, were quick to cry foul.

"These sorts of party accounts are notorious for being operated as slush funds – lightly regulated and ripe for abuse," said Stephen Spaulding, former special counsel at the Federal Election Commission and now chief of strategy at the nonpartisan advocacy group Common Cause


"Trump's bodyguard's firm is getting a fat payout from the RNC and its deep pocketed donors," said Spaulding, who noted that individual contributors "can give a whopping $101,700 per year to the RNC's convention account."

Already, Schiller's $15,000 monthly "site selection consulting fee" is more than he made working in the White House, where his annual salary was $165,000. It's also more than Schiller made working for the Trump campaign, which reported paying KS Global Group $10,000 a month starting in July of 2016.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743512/-RNC-is-using-a-slush-fund-to-pay-Trump-s-former-bodyguard-15-000-per-month-for-consulting


Trump rewards loyalty. Once-again can you imagine if a Clinton did this?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1551 » by verbal8 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:33 am

closg00 wrote:Can the House of Cards be brought down without Manafort flipping?^^

With the additional charges will Manafort have a choice?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1552 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:46 am

cammac wrote:One of SD20s hero's is back in the news again for all the wrong reasons. I'm sure that SD20 would enjoy beers together and feed each other conspiracy theories. I have never seen Nate being pro Sheriff but then again he is black.
Former Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. insinuated Wednesday that student survivors of the Parkland, Fla., school shooting were being manipulated by Democratic billionaire George Soros to organize for gun control.

Question SD20 do you wear a cowboy hat as well?
Clarke, who resigned as sheriff last year amid speculation he would join the Trump administration, now serves as senior adviser and spokesman for the pro-Trump America First Action PAC. He is scheduled to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) later this week.



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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1553 » by cammac » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:53 am

Listen from 2:10 on Hillcast where people like SD20 and Nate get there information on conspiracy theories.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1554 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:12 am

verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Can the House of Cards be brought down without Manafort flipping?^^

With the additional charges will Manafort have a choice?


Trump rewards loyalty, if Manfort keeps his mouth shut, he'll get a full pardon and Russian dirty money he has somewhere. Manafort ain't talking.....so-far
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1555 » by cammac » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:17 am

closg00 wrote:
verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Can the House of Cards be brought down without Manafort flipping?^^

With the additional charges will Manafort have a choice?


Trump rewards loyalty, if Manfort keeps his mouth shut, he'll get a full pardon and Russian dirty money he has somewhere. Manafort ain't talking.....so-far


We will see when the State of NY starts charging him and a Presidential pardon doesn't work!
Mueller has been working with the AG of NY to neutralize any attempt by the Trumpster to issue a pardon.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1556 » by Wizardspride » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:18 am

cammac wrote:HUSH MONEY????
One of the central characters in the Trump infidelities is being paid $15,000 a month by the RNC for consulting? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Guess its for him to teach the Repugs to be more desecrate in there affairs ,nude photos and abortions for girl friends. :crazy: :crazy: Keith Schiller the Trumpster's body man just got a sweet deal. Mueller unlike Ken Star has not gone after the many publicized sexual assaults and consensual affairs.
According to an RNC official, Schiller is being paid for security consulting on the site selection process for the 2020 Republican National Convention. Schiller's fee comes out of the RNC's convention fund, and not its campaign fund, the official noted.

Campaign finance watchdog groups, however, were quick to cry foul.

"These sorts of party accounts are notorious for being operated as slush funds – lightly regulated and ripe for abuse," said Stephen Spaulding, former special counsel at the Federal Election Commission and now chief of strategy at the nonpartisan advocacy group Common Cause


"Trump's bodyguard's firm is getting a fat payout from the RNC and its deep pocketed donors," said Spaulding, who noted that individual contributors "can give a whopping $101,700 per year to the RNC's convention account."

Already, Schiller's $15,000 monthly "site selection consulting fee" is more than he made working in the White House, where his annual salary was $165,000. It's also more than Schiller made working for the Trump campaign, which reported paying KS Global Group $10,000 a month starting in July of 2016.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743512/-RNC-is-using-a-slush-fund-to-pay-Trump-s-former-bodyguard-15-000-per-month-for-consulting

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Post#1557 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:11 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1559 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:40 am

cammac wrote:
closg00 wrote:
verbal8 wrote:With the additional charges will Manafort have a choice?


Trump rewards loyalty, if Manfort keeps his mouth shut, he'll get a full pardon and Russian dirty money he has somewhere. Manafort ain't talking.....so-far


We will see when the State of NY starts charging him and a Presidential pardon doesn't work!
Mueller has been working with the AG of NY to neutralize any attempt by the Trumpster to issue a pardon.


Manafort is ****. Of course Mueller thought of every scenario possible in this situation. It's either Paulie Walnuts eats the years or he sings the sweetest song.
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Post#1560 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:19 pm

Manafort is in neck deep with Russian billionaire mafiosi. He will stay quiet one way or another. I imagine he will be assassinated soon just in case.
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