Poll: Who do you want with #3? (VOTE AGAIN)

[LloydFree]

Fundamentally, I agree. In the NBA it all starts with penetration. You can load a starting 5 full of shooters, but if none of them is a threat to drive, those are the teams that typically "die by the 3" because you can scheme them much easier. Every deep playoff run caliber team needs at least one guy(and maybe more) that can face up and take defenders off the dribble and get to the rack to create.

Mudiay is more that than Russell IMO. Problem is, when that guy who can drive also can't shoot, that causes a problem also. Mudiay's jumper from what I've seen of him just looks really bad at times. It's just awkward. Gotta be able to knock down open shots in the NBA.

That's why it's a tough call IMO.

You are right. Every team needs a player that can penetrate and take his man off the dribble, but it doesn't have to be the PG. The Bulls, Lakers and Heat didn't have PGs that did that. And again, Sam Cassell (Houston, Milwaukee) was no more a physical penetrating PG than Russell, but his teams won.

Checkout the talent at the SG/SF position to compensate for the PGs you named that lack ability to penetrate.

You mean like Mario Elie and Kenny Smith?

[76ciology]

You are right. Every team needs a player that can penetrate and take his man off the dribble, but it doesn't have to be the PG. The Bulls, Lakers and Heat didn't have PGs that did that. And again, Sam Cassell (Houston, Milwaukee) was no more a physical penetrating PG than Russell, but his teams won.

Checkout the talent at the SG/SF position to compensate for the PGs you named that lack ability to penetrate.

You mean like Mario Elie and Kenny Smith?

LBJ, Wade, Kobe & Drexler.

And you don't draft a cassell & Fisher top 3 overall. You want a guy who can breakdown the defense and create with a top 3 pick PG.

[SparksFly87]

Checkout the talent at the SG/SF position to compensate for the PGs you named that lack ability to penetrate.

You mean like Mario Elie and Kenny Smith?

LBJ, Wade, Kobe & Drexler.

And you don't draft a cassell & Fisher top 3 overall. You want a guy who can breakdown the defense and create with a top 3 pick PG.

Russell to me projects more so as a "elite shooting guard prospect" in which is very rare to find in the nba. Like said previously penetrating point guards are a dime a dozen in this league ala " Ish Smith" . Russell is higher on my board because his skill set is rare in a young player and gives our team a legit number 2 option and perimeter go to guy to compliment Embiid. He provides flexibility and versatility among the lineups we can use compared to Mudiay who is strictly a point guard. 76ers have a bunch point guards down their pipeline with Wroten , Pierre Jackson, Caanaan , the Turkish stash and who every they draft in the 2nd round hopefully the Brazilian point guard prospect. Russell all the way

[snoopdogg88]

if the Sixers get the 2nd pick and KAT goes 1st, do you grudgingly take Okafor? or pass over him for Mudiay/Russell

i feel like that could be the toughest place in the draft for us to pick.

[76ciology]

if the Sixers get the 2nd pick and KAT goes 1st, do you grudgingly take Okafor? or pass over him for Mudiay/Russell

i feel like that could be the toughest place in the draft for us to pick.

I'd take Okafor. Either make him part of our core or use him as a trade chip.

[76ciology]

You mean like Mario Elie and Kenny Smith?

LBJ, Wade, Kobe & Drexler.

And you don't draft a cassell & Fisher top 3 overall. You want a guy who can breakdown the defense and create with a top 3 pick PG.

Russell to me projects more so as a "elite shooting guard prospect" in which is very rare to find in the nba. Like said previously penetrating point guards are a dime a dozen in this league ala " Ish Smith" . Russell is higher on my board because his skill set is rare in a young player and gives our team a legit number 2 option and perimeter go to guy to compliment Embiid. He provides flexibility and versatility among the lineups we can use compared to Mudiay who is strictly a point guard. 76ers have a bunch point guards down their pipeline with Wroten , Pierre Jackson, Caanaan , the Turkish stash and who every they draft in the 2nd round hopefully the Brazilian point guard prospect. Russell all the way

He'll have a hard time shooting over long athletic swingmans who plays 2s (i.e. Wiggins). So, I think Russell is best as a shoot first PG like Steph Curry, who plays off ball from time to time. He has elite vision, passing skills and shooting. But he is a shoot first PG than a guy who can drive and draw.

I also think that guys who can create and penetrate for a PG is hard to find, Ish's talent to create and penetrate for me is star level but he has several big glaring holes in his game due to his size and shaky shooting.

For me, 3 and D guys are dime a dozen. 3 and D are the basic fundamental fundamental or the first thing for any person who wants to play basketball. But guys who can create, penetrate and athletic are special and that's why it's the most common trait the star guards/swingman like CP3, Deron, MJ, LBJ, Kobe and so on.

Shooting can be learned. Ish Smith had a questionable 3pt and FT% before he was starting for us but he improved a lot from being a 50% FT and low 30 3pt% to 70FT% and 35 3pt% in small sample size in March. And there are other guys like JaKarr, Noel and Jerami who also has improved their shooting. And the reason why I'm leaning on selecting Mudiay (wouldn't mind Russell), is because of his upside with his create and penetrate, very good athleticism and length could make him a very dynamic guard. Plus the hope of him improving his shooting just like some of our guys who most people thought were hopeless with their shooting development before they play for us.

[SparksFly87]

I am not worried about Russell adjusting against elite shootings length. I am cool with Wroten and Ish Smith as my point guards for the the foreseeable future. They both are elite penetrators who can run this offense. Russell will be a elite shooting guard in the nba.

[Negrodamus]

I think if Russell can guard the other team's SG, then it doesn't matter what position he is as long as we get a SG that can defend PGs (which I don't think is that hard to find).

On offense, I want the ball in Russell's hands. PG, SG, whatever, it doesn't matter. As long as he can take it down the court and run the play, I'm fine with him having the ball in his hands.

[AAKing23]

WE MUST DRAFT RUSSELL, I haven't felt this strongly about a prospect outside of last year's draft in a long time

[Unbreakable99]

Right now I'm leaning towards drafting Russell and then drafting Andrew Harrison in the 2nd round. Yeah I said it.

[LloydFree]

Right now I'm leaning towards drafting Russell and then drafting Andrew Harrison in the 2nd round. Yeah I said it.

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

[Foshan]

Right now I'm leaning towards drafting Russell and then drafting Andrew Harrison in the 2nd round. Yeah I said it.

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

Agreed. Would not mind taking him with one of our 2nds. If all of our 1sts land (mircale) then I think we sell off/trade most of our 2nds, but if all of our 1sts roll over, I wouldn't be surprised to make 3+ picks in the 2nd with guys to fight for roster spots. Just going off of DX 2nd rounders:

35- Dakari Johnson
37- Mouhammadou Jaiteh
43- Andrew Harrison
59- Chris Walker
60- Aaron Harrison

lolz.

[freshie2]

Taking an unathletic guard from Ohio State is always a great idea.

This is tricky, and none of us have seen much of Mudiay, but I think he's the choice over Russell.

[Unbreakable99]

Taking an unathletic guard from Ohio State is always a great idea.

This is tricky, and none of us have seen much of Mudiay, but I think he's the choice over Russell.

If he's like Russell then it is a great idea. Russell is nothing like Turner. It's a tired argument when people say we should never draft another guard from Ohio st for the rest of time because Turner sucked. Mike Conley didn't suck. If Russell went to Indiana or Michigan St no one would even bring up Turner's name.

[Unbreakable99]

Right now I'm leaning towards drafting Russell and then drafting Andrew Harrison in the 2nd round. Yeah I said it.

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

Yeah every time I watch these playoff games I see good shooting. I cringe at the thought of a guard who can't shoot. If you set good picks you can get players open and that should help Russell. The Spurs pass the ball well and get good looks.

[SparksFly87]

You will regret passing on Russell. Point guards are a dime a dozen . We actually have two elite penetrators already in Wroten and Ish Smith . Scoring guards are a rare commodity and Russell has all the skill that you want at the position 6'5 and 6'9 wingspan is good size too.

Mudiay ceiling is not as high as John Wall or even close to roses . He is Tyreke Evans . No thanks.

[LloydFree]

Right now I'm leaning towards drafting Russell and then drafting Andrew Harrison in the 2nd round. Yeah I said it.

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

Yeah every time I watch these playoff games I see good shooting. I cringe at the thought of a guard who can't shoot. If you set good picks you can get players open and that should help Russell. The Spurs pass the ball well and get good looks.

Andrew Harrison has suffered from over exposure and is now under-rated, where other players who get under exposed have become overrated. If Andrew Harrison played at San Diego state, we'd be hearing about this good defensive PG with elite size, who hits his Free throws and can hit the open 3. Instead with Harrison, the focus is on what he can't do. I think he could have a Jarrett Jack type career at minimum.

[Unbreakable99]

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

Yeah every time I watch these playoff games I see good shooting. I cringe at the thought of a guard who can't shoot. If you set good picks you can get players open and that should help Russell. The Spurs pass the ball well and get good looks.

Andrew Harrison has suffered from over exposure and is now under-rated, where other players who get under exposed have become overrated. If Andrew Harrison played at San Diego state, we'd be hearing about this good defensive PG with elite size, who hits his Free throws and can hit the open 3. Instead with Harrison, the focus is on what he can't do. I think he could have a Jarrett Jack type career at minimum.

True. Because he was a top 6 rated player coming out of high school he is known as underachieving. He has good size. He can get to the rim. He can hit a jump shot. He can shoot free throws. He is a big time player and plays big in big moments. He is a good defensive player. I think he can at a minimum be a good backup PG. Also if for some reason Tyrus Jones fell to the second I wouldn't mind him either.

But going back to Harrison, if he wasn't highly rated coming out and was around the 50th best player and went to Fresno St you would hear a lot more buzz about a 6'5 PG who can defend and shoot and play big in big games and how he got better in his 2 years. People are looking too much at how much he didn't live up to expectations and how much his stock dropped instead of what he can do and what his best traits are like you said.

[Negrodamus]

I would like that. Andrew Harrison will be a good 2nd round pick for somebody.

Yeah every time I watch these playoff games I see good shooting. I cringe at the thought of a guard who can't shoot. If you set good picks you can get players open and that should help Russell. The Spurs pass the ball well and get good looks.

Andrew Harrison has suffered from over exposure and is now under-rated, where other players who get under exposed have become overrated. If Andrew Harrison played at San Diego state, we'd be hearing about this good defensive PG with elite size, who hits his Free throws and can hit the open 3. Instead with Harrison, the focus is on what he can't do. I think he could have a Jarrett Jack type career at minimum.

I wholeheartedly disagree. He's slow, especially for a PG. His shooting isn't really there. He gets in his own head and makes mistake after mistake.

As usual, he could surprise once he's in the NBA and develops his game, but he's quite mediocre based off what he showed in college.

[Sixerscan]

Yeah every time I watch these playoff games I see good shooting. I cringe at the thought of a guard who can't shoot. If you set good picks you can get players open and that should help Russell. The Spurs pass the ball well and get good looks.

Andrew Harrison has suffered from over exposure and is now under-rated, where other players who get under exposed have become overrated. If Andrew Harrison played at San Diego state, we'd be hearing about this good defensive PG with elite size, who hits his Free throws and can hit the open 3. Instead with Harrison, the focus is on what he can't do. I think he could have a Jarrett Jack type career at minimum.

I wholeheartedly disagree. He's slow, especially for a PG. His shooting isn't really there. He gets in his own head and makes mistake after mistake.

As usual, he could surprise once he's in the NBA and develops his game, but he's quite mediocre based off what he showed in college.

I'm with Negrodamus. I've seen enough of both Harrisons to be pretty confident they can't play.

Jarrett Jack has had a pretty good career. If you're telling me Andrew Harrison's FLOOR is to be a ~league average player for a decade he should be a mid first round pick. But I don't see it.