Eurobasket 2022 (daily OP updates), day 11, all quarter finals teams known, Italy shocks Europe, eliminates Serbia

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Who will win 2022 Eurobasket?

Serbia
62
21%
France
41
14%
Spain
10
3%
Lithuania
12
4%
Greece
53
18%
Slovenia
74
25%
Croatia
5
2%
Turkey
12
4%
Montenegro
1
0%
other
25
8%
 
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Post#161 » by UcanUwill » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:57 pm

bravor wrote:Bad news today for us,as french federation announced that Victor did not recover enough from his late injury with Asvel and he won't participate in the preparation for next Eurobasket

He won't be replaced in the team.


Yeah, sad. the more I was thinking, the more sure I was that he would have made final cut. Imagine Wembanyama and Gobert lineup, thats insane, I'd definitely pay to watch that, but as a Lithuania fan, I am relieved Domantas and Jonas will not need to deal with that.
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Post#162 » by Mickey8 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:02 pm

He would have been pushed around by the majority of centers at Eurobasket.
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Post#163 » by Ruma85 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:23 pm

Mickey8 wrote:He would have been pushed around by the majority of centers at Eurobasket.


True, Would have been a excellent experience for him.
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Post#164 » by Pachinko_ » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:30 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:Gianni will probably play more off-ball (pick-and-roll) and on the wings/block (posting up) a lot more than he was in 2019. I have a feeling Greece will look good, especially since now they have a legit very good coach. Greece's issue is a distinct lack of long-range shooting. But the defense/transition game will be really good.
It's the typical team that will make some shots one night and get a big win and big hopes, and next night nothing will go in and lose to some bottom seed and go home early
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Post#165 » by darmani » Sat Jul 30, 2022 7:32 am

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Post#166 » by CharityStripe34 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:41 am

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CharityStripe34 wrote:Gianni will probably play more off-ball (pick-and-roll) and on the wings/block (posting up) a lot more than he was in 2019. I have a feeling Greece will look good, especially since now they have a legit very good coach. Greece's issue is a distinct lack of long-range shooting. But the defense/transition game will be really good.
It's the typical team that will make some shots one night and get a big win and big hopes, and next night nothing will go in and lose to some bottom seed and go home early


I wouldn't be shocked with a dark horse run, though the bettors are putting some early money on them as one of the 3-4 "favorites."
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Post#167 » by sisibilio » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:05 am

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Post#168 » by UcanUwill » Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:18 am

Ruma85 wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:He would have been pushed around by the majority of centers at Eurobasket.


True, Would have been a excellent experience for him.


He gets pushed around very easily, but he still contest and blocks post shots simply because he is so long. Guy defended Ante Zizic very well, and Ante is one of the strongest if not the strongest post player, I mean both physically and finishing wise. Ante could get deep position against Wembanyama very easily, but he still gets his shots blocked. Same happened to Louvergne, watching guys like
Louvergne and Zizic baby hook on Victor and getting stuffed was a good reminder why these two were NBA scrubs, while Victor is superstar prospect. Yes, Zizic and Louvergne are better EUro players now, but ability is not in their favor at all.

Also, I dont think he would have played C most of the time, he would have been Yabuselles back up
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Re: Eurobasket 2022 

Post#169 » by Ruma85 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:54 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
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Mickey8 wrote:He would have been pushed around by the majority of centers at Eurobasket.


True, Would have been a excellent experience for him.


He gets pushed around very easily, but he still contest and blocks post shots simply because he is so long. Guy defended Ante Zizic very well, and Ante is one of the strongest if not the strongest post player, I mean both physically and finishing wise. Ante could get deep position against Wembanyama very easily, but he still gets his shots blocked. Same happened to Louvergne, watching guys like
Louvergne and Zizic baby hook on Victor and getting stuffed was a good reminder why these two were NBA scrubs, while Victor is superstar prospect. Yes, Zizic and Louvergne are better EUro players now, but ability is not in their favor at all.

Also, I dont think he would have played C most of the time, he would have been Yabuselles back up


Actually zizic wasn’t as bad as people might have believed he was on those cavs teams, he didn’t get much burn, he had higher iq then his Croatian team mate hezonja.
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Post#170 » by UcanUwill » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:34 pm

Ruma85 wrote:
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True, Would have been a excellent experience for him.


He gets pushed around very easily, but he still contest and blocks post shots simply because he is so long. Guy defended Ante Zizic very well, and Ante is one of the strongest if not the strongest post player, I mean both physically and finishing wise. Ante could get deep position against Wembanyama very easily, but he still gets his shots blocked. Same happened to Louvergne, watching guys like
Louvergne and Zizic baby hook on Victor and getting stuffed was a good reminder why these two were NBA scrubs, while Victor is superstar prospect. Yes, Zizic and Louvergne are better EUro players now, but ability is not in their favor at all.

Also, I dont think he would have played C most of the time, he would have been Yabuselles back up


Actually zizic wasn’t as bad as people might have believed he was on those cavs teams, he didn’t get much burn, he had higher iq then his Croatian team mate hezonja.


He reminds me of Pekovic a bit, Pekovic probably had better footwork and technique, but they are similar. Ante is not absolute scrub, ok I agree, but NBA went very far away from centers like him.
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Post#171 » by Ruma85 » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:35 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
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UcanUwill wrote:
He gets pushed around very easily, but he still contest and blocks post shots simply because he is so long. Guy defended Ante Zizic very well, and Ante is one of the strongest if not the strongest post player, I mean both physically and finishing wise. Ante could get deep position against Wembanyama very easily, but he still gets his shots blocked. Same happened to Louvergne, watching guys like
Louvergne and Zizic baby hook on Victor and getting stuffed was a good reminder why these two were NBA scrubs, while Victor is superstar prospect. Yes, Zizic and Louvergne are better EUro players now, but ability is not in their favor at all.

Also, I dont think he would have played C most of the time, he would have been Yabuselles back up


Actually zizic wasn’t as bad as people might have believed he was on those cavs teams, he didn’t get much burn, he had higher iq then his Croatian team mate hezonja.


He reminds me of Pekovic a bit, Pekovic probably had better footwork and technique, but they are similar. Ante is not absolute scrub, ok I agree, but NBA went very far away from centers like him.


True they did, I really hoped hezonja would turn out to be a good player, but he was not so good.
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Post#172 » by UcanUwill » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:09 pm

another defender out for France - Andrew Albicy. That probably makes Ntlikina a lock to make the team. Also, reports says Embiid wanted to play for France this summer already.
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Post#173 » by G R E Y » Mon Aug 1, 2022 12:10 pm

A development for France:

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Post#174 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 1, 2022 12:42 pm

G R E Y wrote:A development for France:

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Sanctions against Russia for ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Affects EuroBasket, World Cup, and Olympics.


This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.
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Post#175 » by G R E Y » Mon Aug 1, 2022 12:52 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:A development for France:

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Sanctions against Russia for ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Affects EuroBasket, World Cup, and Olympics.


This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.

I'm puzzled why any player would choose to play for a Russian team given the invasion. But life must be more difficult with other sanctions, too. Hard to believe players don't have other options. Wasn't it in Russia where players were complaining that their pay was late? And that was before the war...

Anyway, France is getting hit by injuries and now these sanctions. When fully available it's the biggest threat.
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Post#176 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 1, 2022 1:01 pm

G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:A development for France:

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Sanctions against Russia for ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Affects EuroBasket, World Cup, and Olympics.


This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.

I'm puzzled why any player would choose to play for a Russian team given the invasion. But life must be more difficult with other sanctions, too. Hard to believe players don't have other options. Wasn't it in Russia where players were complaining that their pay was late? And that was before the war...

Anyway, France is getting hit by injuries and now these sanctions. When fully available it's the biggest threat.


Pay delays can happen anywhere in EUrope, usually with smaller clubs or the ones that are in debts, and there are a lot of those. If anything, it wont happen in Petersburg or Moscow, those clubs are filthy rich, they have all the perks NBA teams have, like private jets and everything. I mean if player morally doesn't care about Russia doing terrible things, I can see how he would just go for the money. Also, Russian clubs being banned from Euroleague, that basically cuts half of your games you have to play.

But yeah, just have to be other options, I dont expect anyone to really sign with Russian teams now, Just seem like a dumb move, but France federation putting rules just in case. If anything, I think they just making it public, because I imagine a lot of countries feel the same way and this would just go without saying.
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Post#177 » by UcanUwill » Mon Aug 1, 2022 1:50 pm

Tibor Pleiß out for Germany due to thigh injury. Not the biggest loss, as they still have Theis and Moritz, but Tibor was their tallest player and a good shooter, probably would have made the team for specific match ups.
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Post#178 » by LuDux1 » Mon Aug 1, 2022 3:46 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.

I'm puzzled why any player would choose to play for a Russian team given the invasion. But life must be more difficult with other sanctions, too. Hard to believe players don't have other options. Wasn't it in Russia where players were complaining that their pay was late? And that was before the war...

Anyway, France is getting hit by injuries and now these sanctions. When fully available it's the biggest threat.


Pay delays can happen anywhere in EUrope, usually with smaller clubs or the ones that are in debts, and there are a lot of those. If anything, it wont happen in Petersburg or Moscow, those clubs are filthy rich, they have all the perks NBA teams have, like private jets and everything. I mean if player morally doesn't care about Russia doing terrible things, I can see how he would just go for the money. Also, Russian clubs being banned from Euroleague, that basically cuts half of your games you have to play.

But yeah, just have to be other options, I dont expect anyone to really sign with Russian teams now, Just seem like a dumb move, but France federation putting rules just in case. If anything, I think they just making it public, because I imagine a lot of countries feel the same way and this would just go without saying.


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https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/1327086/sweden-basketball-federation-rules-out-jonas-jerebko-from-sweden-national-team-after-his-move-to-cska-moscow/
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Post#179 » by Mickey8 » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:41 pm

G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:A development for France:

Read on Twitter


Sanctions against Russia for ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Affects EuroBasket, World Cup, and Olympics.


This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.

I'm puzzled why any player would choose to play for a Russian team given the invasion. But life must be more difficult with other sanctions, too. Hard to believe players don't have other options. Wasn't it in Russia where players were complaining that their pay was late? And that was before the war...

Anyway, France is getting hit by injuries and now these sanctions. When fully available it's the biggest threat.


Why did any foreign player signed the contract with any USA sport club, during the USA invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan :-? Have you ever been puzzled by that??? I mean innocent people have died in that war too, but I guess their skin was brown color so they don't count.
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Post#180 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:46 pm

Mickey8 wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
This is relevant, because their main point guard, Thomas Heurtel is linked to Zenit. Man, Heurtel was probably my favorite player in Euroleague, but after these past 2 years, and if he signs with Russian team, damn, they say don't hero people you dont know.

I'm puzzled why any player would choose to play for a Russian team given the invasion. But life must be more difficult with other sanctions, too. Hard to believe players don't have other options. Wasn't it in Russia where players were complaining that their pay was late? And that was before the war...

Anyway, France is getting hit by injuries and now these sanctions. When fully available it's the biggest threat.


Why did any foreign player signed the contract with any USA sport club, during the USA invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan :-? Have you ever been puzzled by that??? I mean innocent people have died in that war too, but I guess their skin was brown color so they don't count.


Totally agree with your assessment but the oblivious folks in here won't like the double standard that goes against their way.

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