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[TucsonClip]

If we're trading Redick, we'd better be getting Wilson Chandler in return, not another 2-guard who's overrated.

That would be fine by me. If the Clippers front office is smart, they deal Redick (who we have a replacement for) + Wilcox? for a player with a year less on their contract. With the NBAPA rejecting the cap smoothing proposition, the less money we have on the books in the summer of 2016 the better.

Redick and Hawes are the two guys on the books for that summer, Crawford expires in 2015.

[MartinToVaught]

Am I the only one who thinks that the rise in the salary cap will mean nothing since players will just ask for more money?

[TucsonClip]

Am I the only one who thinks that the rise in the salary cap will mean nothing since players will just ask for more money?

Its the fact that in 2016 everyone will have a large amount of unexpected cap space. Also, you can now fit three stars for $20 mil per on a roster quite easily. Its not the max, but thats about $15 mil more than what Bron and Bosh took to get to Miami.

[nickhx2]

amare joining the mavs.

still wondering which veteran FA is going to come and save this team.

[MartinToVaught]

amare joining the mavs.

still wondering which veteran FA is going to come and save this team.

There are none. Not even the washed-up, no-defense-playing corpse of Amar'e would be "saving" this team.

[Neddy]

amare joining the mavs.

still wondering which veteran FA is going to come and save this team.

unlike our resident pessimist MtV, I am glad we dodged this huge bullet of a blackhole.

look, Amare was a great player once upon a time when i was an associate to Steve P. up in Washington. that was nearly a decade ago. Amare today is a shell of his former self, who is no better than Spencer Hawes if not worse. Larry Sanders would be a better option at this point than Stat.

the best scenario would be for KG to be bought out and get his old ass down to LA.

[MartinToVaught]

I'm actually agreeing with you that Amar'e is a black hole and washed-up. I disagree that KG is the "best scenario," it reeks of another wasted roster spot on a washed-up player from Doc's "good old days."

[QRich3]

Am I the only one who thinks that the rise in the salary cap will mean nothing since players will just ask for more money?

Its the fact that in 2016 everyone will have a large amount of unexpected cap space. Also, you can now fit three stars for $20 mil per on a roster quite easily. Its not the max, but thats about $15 mil more than what Bron and Bosh took to get to Miami.

I think I kind of agree with Martin, basically every team in the league is gonna have a huge amount of capspace that year, so everyone's gonna be fighting each other to overpay the few free agents that are gonna be jumping ship. And it'll be the first year of the bigger cap, so no one will know exactly what amounts to a worthy contract, so there's gonna be A LOT of bad contracts handed that summer. Plus, half the teams in the league are delusional enough to think they can get Durant, and they'll be overpaying to sell their fan bases some hope when they realize KD is staying in OKC (or going to Washington at most). I think we should give it all right now and then wait for the 2018 offseason to try rebuilding the team in FA. Both Blake and Paul's contracts expire that offseason, which by the way is the same offseason when Paul George can opt out too.

I'd love to bring Larry Sanders in, I think we have the character and team leadership from both coaches and players to deal with him. If we can't do it, then probably no one can.

[mattd13]

I see some of you guys talk trade, trade, trade. do you really think trading jj will bring in a game changer that will improve their playoff chances. plus I think doc realizes jj is his smartest and best role player. the only team to take jamal is a contender who would not part with a player who could help. there is just not any players out there that would change much. if you still think trade is the answer the you have to blow it up and start over. right now we have to dance with team we have. I know we need help but doc got us this spot and I believe we have to live with it. in my mind the coaching is as much of a problem as the lack of a bench. I hate to see the cp3 era not produce but it may happen. I am going to be positive and believe this team can make it.

[TucsonClip]

Am I the only one who thinks that the rise in the salary cap will mean nothing since players will just ask for more money?

Its the fact that in 2016 everyone will have a large amount of unexpected cap space. Also, you can now fit three stars for $20 mil per on a roster quite easily. Its not the max, but thats about $15 mil more than what Bron and Bosh took to get to Miami.

I think I kind of agree with Martin, basically every team in the league is gonna have a huge amount of capspace that year, so everyone's gonna be fighting each other to overpay the few free agents that are gonna be jumping ship. And it'll be the first year of the bigger cap, so no one will know exactly what amounts to a worthy contract, so there's gonna be A LOT of bad contracts handed that summer. Plus, half the teams in the league are delusional enough to think they can get Durant, and they'll be overpaying to sell their fan bases some hope when they realize KD is staying in OKC (or going to Washington at most). I think we should give it all right now and then wait for the 2018 offseason to try rebuilding the team in FA. Both Blake and Paul's contracts expire that offseason, which by the way is the same offseason when Paul George can opt out too.

I'd love to bring Larry Sanders in, I think we have the character and team leadership from both coaches and players to deal with him. If we can't do it, then probably no one can.

Well my question would be, do we think Redick or Hawes is going to be enough of a contributor in two seasons to warrant keeping them? Landing a guy like Afflalo, or a wing, with one year left on their contract helps strengthen a weakness today and provides flexibility in 2016. The fact that a move like that would clear more room in the books in the summer of '16 is just another plus.

We are obviously going to be in the market for a wing, or someone who can create. I have no dreams of Durant or LeBron. Parsons, Wilson Chandler, Harrison Barnes, Fournier, Batum are all guys we could target that summer at the 2/3, with Parsons being the main target. Depending on how high the cap rises (up to $85 mil) and DJ's new contract, we could have $13-$20 mil in cap space if we are able to offload Hawes or Redick.

[TucsonClip]

I see some of you guys talk trade, trade, trade. do you really think trading jj will bring in a game changer that will improve their playoff chances. plus I think doc realizes jj is his smartest and best role player. the only team to take jamal is a contender who would not part with a player who could help. there is just not any players out there that would change much. if you still think trade is the answer the you have to blow it up and start over. right now we have to dance with team we have. I know we need help but doc got us this spot and I believe we have to live with it. in my mind the coaching is as much of a problem as the lack of a bench. I hate to see the cp3 era not produce but it may happen. I am going to be positive and believe this team can make it.

No body is expecting a game changer at the deadline or this summer. What Doc might be looking at is balancing a roster that is overloaded on SGs.

[nickhx2]

Tuscon, I'm curious as to why you don't feel jj is as indispensable as many others do around here. You yourself were the one to point out our starting lineup's offensive efficiency vs the rest of the league, correct?

If crawford were closer to the same mold as redick yeah i might go with it, but they seem to be polar opposites in style and efficiency. Do you feel jj's effect on the starting lineup isn't championship effective? Personally i don't see how trading JJ away can fix more problems than what we lose offensively. Like, he's not enough of a star that he can net the myriad defensive assets to fix our personnel on that side. And I don't see how we're gonna get better offensively by trading him either.


Also, considering doc just keeps adding wings through draft/FA why do you think he will all of a sudden change his mind and go for balance?

[TucsonClip]

Tuscon, I'm curious as to why you don't feel jj is as indispensable as many others do around here. You yourself were the one to point out our starting lineup's offensive efficiency vs the rest of the league, correct?

If crawford were closer to the same mold as redick yeah i might go with it, but they seem to be polar opposites in style and efficiency. Do you feel jj's effect on the starting lineup isn't championship effective? Personally i don't see how trading JJ away can fix more problems than what we lose offensively. Like, he's not enough of a star that he can net the myriad defensive assets to fix our personnel on that side. And I don't see how we're gonna get better offensively by trading him either.


Also, considering doc just keeps adding wings through draft/FA why do you think he will all of a sudden change his mind and go for balance?

Redick is a perfect fit for what we want to do offensively. I originally thought Crawford made the most sense to deal, but seeing how bad our bench can be without another shot creator, the fact that Redick does not ever play with the bench and his contract eats up valuable 2016 cap space, made me (slightly) change my mind.

I dont think any trade this year puts us over the top. I think Afflalo improves our defense somewhat, plus his eFG% out of catch and shoot situations is 53% compared to Redick's 57.9%. That should improve with the added spacing around Griffin and Paul. I think Afflalo can bring some of what Redick does, running off screens, secondary ball handler, spot up shooter, with some additional defense while also improving our books for the summer of 2016.

I also think Afflalo can play more effectively with the second unit than Redick can. A Rivers, Crawford and Afflalo reserve unit sounds much better than anything we trot out now, especially considering Redick hardly plays with the reserves.

The question is how much do we have to give up? Redick and Wilcox (buried on bench, not playing this year) would be a solid deal, but not sure that peaks Denver's interest. Anything more than that, I would have to see the offer to digest it.

[mkwest]

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[nickhx2]

I'm normally against all bad chemistry type guys but if we don't give him a chance then how can we actually find anyone worth a damn in the bargain bin?

our options are sooooo limited we just aren't gonna get enough help without having to take shots at some of the bad apples.

[mattd13]

you can not have an all star at every spot. role players who are great team players are a must to win big. the defensive holes in this team are not the so called role players. I watched aa with jj in Orlando ad he was a solid player, but with this team I take jj every time. night in night out he does his job. others, whose name I will not mention, should take a look at the mirror. including the coach.

[TucsonClip]

The problem is, Sanders isnt going to see more than 15-20 minutes a game behind DJ. No need to take the risk, especially when we dont have the type of minutes he would be interested in.

[nickhx2]

15-20 minutes of sanders sure seems like a much better option than having to rely on turkoglu (blech). And while i think getting one of KG or AK (or both wowee what a dream) would put us in great position to go deep, what are the chances of even just one happening? KG is talking about how he wants to re-up with the nets (god knows why) and AK is in exile even if he decides he wants to play (something he doesn't seem to want to do). Andray blatche is staying in china? Like, i just don't see any good or reasonable options if we don't chase after larry sanders.

I mean sure if sanders getting backup burn is gonna make him rot the team from inside out you never do it. But it's hard to tell what the hell's going on from over there in milwaukee, when as far as i can tell he just really likes to smoke a lot of weed? I can't know, though.

[TucsonClip]

15-20 minutes of sanders sure seems like a much better option than having to rely on turkoglu (blech). And while i think getting one of KG or AK (or both wowee what a dream) would put us in great position to go deep, what are the chances of even just one happening? KG is talking about how he wants to re-up with the nets (god knows why) and AK is in exile even if he decides he wants to play (something he doesn't seem to want to do). Andray blatche is staying in china? Like, i just don't see any good or reasonable options if we don't chase after larry sanders.

I mean sure if sanders getting backup burn is gonna make him rot the team from inside out you never do it. But it's hard to tell what the hell's going on from over there in milwaukee, when as far as i can tell he just really likes to smoke a lot of weed? I can't know, though.

15-20 minutes of anyone would be better than what we have off the bench. The problem is how Sanders reacts when he isnt playing more than that and thinks he should be.

[Dynamix]

Are you guys seriously arguing that we should go after Sanders? Why not contact Bynum and Oden while we're at it.

He's clearly no longer interested in basketball, otherwise the Bucks would have tried to get something for him. You don't get rid of an asset like that just because of some small attitude problem.