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Context · Post #1761 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:11 pm

NewEra wrote:Welcome back Context!

appreciate it!
missed the action Newera

Context · Post #1762 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:11 pm

Brazilian Knick wrote:Welcome Context!

thank u

bishnykfan · Post #1763 » by **bishnykfan** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:25 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:i think we should have Smash present his extension idea a bit more thoroughly. I think he was onto something where drafted players who become allstars or all NBA players deserved to get at least $300+ on there extension starting annual salary and you get a year to create the capspace or let the player become a free agent where the highest bidder would essentially get him signed (doesnt mean you would lose him it just means he gets what the market rate is that offseason).

I looked into this a bit. I would be open to adding a clause if a player makes a sim all-NBA team but I don't know if making an all-star team should automatically get you a $300+ contract. There are plenty of players who have made an All-star game during their rookie deals who don't necessarily automatically deserve that kind of contract.

Plus, as was said before, the fact that we have a hard cap makes a big difference in this kind of thing. Making a mandatory extension number would almost punish drafting well.

Those are my thoughts.

Post #1764 » by **Capn'O** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:27 pm

Context wrote:Everybody is available on the Pistons:

Klay Thompson- $460/4 years
2. Nikola Vucevic- $140/1 year
3. Malcolm Brogdon- $135/4 years
4. Markieff Morris- $50/4 years
5. Al-Farouq Aminu- $45/2 years
6. Tyson Chandler- $40/1 year
7. George Hill- $35/1 year
8. Josh Richardson- $35/4 years
9. Courtney Lee- $30/1 year
10. Cory Joseph- $20/3 years
11. Gary Trent Jr.- $5/3 years
12. Ryan Arcidiacono- $1/2 years
13. DeAndre Bembry- $1/1 year
14. Terrence Jones- $1/1 year
15. Maxi Kleber- $1/2 years

PM or email works: gorillalane@gmail.com

Post #1765 » by **Capn'O** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:31 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Losing in the finals is no different than being in the lotto.

Warriors in 5...

El Poochio · Post #1766 » by **El Poochio** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:32 pm

Legend is BACK!!!

El Poochio · Post #1767 » by **El Poochio** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:35 pm

NBA Rumour Mill: Agent P behind the Context hiring?

bringbackhoffa · Post #1768 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:49 pm

bishnykfan wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:i think we should have Smash present his extension idea a bit more thoroughly. I think he was onto something where drafted players who become allstars or all NBA players deserved to get at least $300+ on there extension starting annual salary and you get a year to create the capspace or let the player become a free agent where the highest bidder would essentially get him signed (doesnt mean you would lose him it just means he gets what the market rate is that offseason).

I looked into this a bit. I would be open to adding a clause if a player makes a sim all-NBA team but I don't know if making an all-star team should automatically get you a $300+ contract. There are plenty of players who have made an All-star game during their rookie deals who don't necessarily automatically deserve that kind of contract.

Plus, as was said before, the fact that we have a hard cap makes a big difference in this kind of thing. Making a mandatory extension number would almost punish drafting well.

Those are my thoughts.

most of the time it really isnt even drafting well its you had a really high draft pick and took BPA, they are exceptions such as Donovan Mitchell but those are few and beyond. Being a hard cap just means you got to manage your team salary a bit better.

bringbackhoffa · Post #1769 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:50 pm

Capn'O wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:Losing in the finals is no different than being in the lotto.

Warriors in 5...

Raps in 6 if Durant does not return

bringbackhoffa · Post #1770 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue May 28, 2019 3:51 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Context wrote:Everybody is available on the Pistons:

Klay Thompson- $460/4 years
2. Nikola Vucevic- $140/1 year
3. Malcolm Brogdon- $135/4 years
4. Markieff Morris- $50/4 years
5. Al-Farouq Aminu- $45/2 years
6. Tyson Chandler- $40/1 year
7. George Hill- $35/1 year
8. Josh Richardson- $35/4 years
9. Courtney Lee- $30/1 year
10. Cory Joseph- $20/3 years
11. Gary Trent Jr.- $5/3 years
12. Ryan Arcidiacono- $1/2 years
13. DeAndre Bembry- $1/1 year
14. Terrence Jones- $1/1 year
15. Maxi Kleber- $1/2 years

PM or email works: gorillalane@gmail.com

this brings back memories..Cap may have the best asset in the game now..FYI im still interested in acquiring him

Context · Post #1771 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:02 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Context wrote:Everybody is available on the Pistons:

Klay Thompson- $460/4 years
2. Nikola Vucevic- $140/1 year
3. Malcolm Brogdon- $135/4 years
4. Markieff Morris- $50/4 years
5. Al-Farouq Aminu- $45/2 years
6. Tyson Chandler- $40/1 year
7. George Hill- $35/1 year
8. Josh Richardson- $35/4 years
9. Courtney Lee- $30/1 year
10. Cory Joseph- $20/3 years
11. Gary Trent Jr.- $5/3 years
12. Ryan Arcidiacono- $1/2 years
13. DeAndre Bembry- $1/1 year
14. Terrence Jones- $1/1 year
15. Maxi Kleber- $1/2 years

PM or email works: gorillalane@gmail.com

yeah- that was a funny time cap...I was high on Stanley as well- Harris didnt turn out too bad- got a decent contract...

Context · Post #1772 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:03 pm

El Poochio wrote:Legend is BACK!!!

appreciate it El Poo 8-)

Post #1773 » by **Capn'O** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:04 pm

Context wrote:yeah- that was a funny time cap...I was high on Stanley as well- Harris didnt turn out too bad- got a decent contract...

He had a rough year but his playoff performance was more along the lines of what we expect from him

Smash3 · Post #1774 » by **Smash3** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:14 pm

Context is back?

Context · Post #1775 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:20 pm

Smash3 wrote:Context is back?

how many trophy's you got now?

Context · Post #1776 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 4:21 pm

Context wrote:Everybody is available on the Pistons:

Klay Thompson- $460/4 years
2. Nikola Vucevic- $140/1 year
3. Malcolm Brogdon- $135/4 years
4. Markieff Morris- $50/4 years
5. Al-Farouq Aminu- $45/2 years
6. Tyson Chandler- $40/1 year
7. George Hill- $35/1 year
8. Josh Richardson- $35/4 years
9. Courtney Lee- $30/1 year
10. Cory Joseph- $20/3 years
11. Gary Trent Jr.- $5/3 years
12. Ryan Arcidiacono- $1/2 years
13. DeAndre Bembry- $1/1 year
14. Terrence Jones- $1/1 year
15. Maxi Kleber- $1/2 years

PM or email works: gorillalane@gmail.com

bishnykfan · Post #1777 » by **bishnykfan** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:15 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
bishnykfan wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:i think we should have Smash present his extension idea a bit more thoroughly. I think he was onto something where drafted players who become allstars or all NBA players deserved to get at least $300+ on there extension starting annual salary and you get a year to create the capspace or let the player become a free agent where the highest bidder would essentially get him signed (doesnt mean you would lose him it just means he gets what the market rate is that offseason).

I looked into this a bit. I would be open to adding a clause if a player makes a sim all-NBA team but I don't know if making an all-star team should automatically get you a $300+ contract. There are plenty of players who have made an All-star game during their rookie deals who don't necessarily automatically deserve that kind of contract.

Plus, as was said before, the fact that we have a hard cap makes a big difference in this kind of thing. Making a mandatory extension number would almost punish drafting well.

Those are my thoughts.

most of the time it really isnt even drafting well its you had a really high draft pick and took BPA, they are exceptions such as Donovan Mitchell but those are few and beyond. Being a hard cap just means you got to manage your team salary a bit better.

Elton Brand (#1)
Anthony Davis (#1)
Tim Duncan (#1)
Blake Griffin (#1)
Dwight Howard (#1)
Kyrie Irving (#1)
Allen Iverson (#1)
LeBron James (#1)
Kenyon Martin (#1)
Yao Ming (#1)
Derrick Rose (#1)
Ben Simmons (#1)
Karl-Anthony Towns (#1)
John Wall (#1)

Kevin Durant (#2)
Steve Francis (#2)
D'Angelo Russell (#2)

Carmelo Anthony (#3)
Baron Davis (#3)
Joel Embiid (#3)
James Harden (#3)
Al Horford (#3)

Chris Bosh (#4)
Chris Paul (#4)
Kristaps Porzingis (#4)
Russell Westbrook (#4)

Ray Allen (#5)
Vince Carter (#5)
Kevin Love (#5)
Dwayne Wade (#5)

Damian Lillard (#6)
Brandon Roy (#6)
Wally Szczerbiak (#6)

Andre Drummond (#9)
Shawn Marion (#9)
Tracy McGrady (#9)
Dirk Nowitzki (#9)
Amare Stoudemire (#9)

Paul George (#10)
Paul Pierce (#10)

Klay Thompson (#11)

Kobe Bryant (#13)

Peja Stojakovic (#14)

Giannis Antetokounmpo (#15)

Danny Granger (#17)
Roy Hibbert (#17)
Jrue Holiday (#17)

Jamaal Magloire (#19)

Rajon Rondo (#21)

Andrei Kirilenko (#24)

Josh Howard (#29)

Jimmy Butler (#30)

Gilbert Arenas (#31)

Draymond Green (#35)

Nikola Jokic (#41)

Michael Redd (#43)

Marc Gasol (#48)

Manu Ginobili (#57)

58 players since the year 2000 have made an all star team during the first four years of their career (rookie contracts). First off, 30 of those players were top 5 picks, 28 were picked after the top 5, including six second rounders. Making all of these players worth a $300 contract will be a detriment to good scouting and drafting. Secondly, 58 players in the last 20 or so years means about three players a draft would need to get these MAX contracts. It wouldn't be about good cap management at some point, it just would not be able to get done. It is different than IRL where Philly could resign Embiid and Simmons plus afford a Jimmy Butler or OKC could go over the cap to extend Durant, Harden and Westbrook if they chose. BaF could not have that with $300+ extensions and a hard cap. Teams would lose players that they draft and develop and it would devalue draft picks which defeats the purpose of the proposal. Finally, not everyone on this list would deserve a max deal...Wally Szczerbiak? Jamaal Magloire? How do you determine which all stars are worthy?

The idea is that teams can retain their draft picks longer while still paying the player. To offer a max extension to Zion, Indy would have to pay him $567 total more than he would get in just his rookie contract. The reward for paying that extra amount is that they keep his rights for an additional three years. It can still be a bit of a gamble and would take a lot of cap management in order to get it to work.

Phish Tank · Post #1778 » by **Phish Tank** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:18 pm

idk who is on the block for my team....

Context · Post #1779 » by **Context** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:21 pm

Phish Tank wrote:idk who is on the block for my team....

so who knows Phish? :lol:

bringbackhoffa · Post #1780 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Tue May 28, 2019 5:31 pm

Phish Tank wrote:idk who is on the block for my team....

i know who i think should be on the block and should already be a member of the Hornets..