Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

So are guys like Jae Crowder or Avery Bradley good or not?

They showed what their ceiling is in Boston under Stevens. Pretty much all non-great players need a good situation and neither guy is in one that plays to their strength.

[Eoghan]

They're good on teams that know how to use them.

That's probably not us.

[yosemiteben]

They're good on teams that know how to use them.

Kind of the opposite.

[stinger14]

Could Lamb or Kaminsky get us out if Batum's contract? Would rather keep Lamb, but getting Batum outta here would make me consider it.

Batum and Kaminsky (or Lamb) to the Kings for George Hill and Vincent Carter (expiring)

Does this give Kings incentive to make the deal and take on Batum who they could play at SF

[Bassman]

Could Lamb or Kaminsky get us out if Batum's contract? Would rather keep Lamb, but getting Batum outta here would make me consider it.

Batum and Kaminsky (or Lamb) to the Kings for George Hill and Vincent Carter (expiring)

Does this give Kings incentive to make the deal and take on Batum who they could play at SF

Seriously doubt they do that after the Blake deal. They don’t need Batum with Tobias in place.

With Detroit making the big move, Milwaukee needs to do something to improve. Could Kaminsky go home and take Nic with him? I can only wish.

[stinger14]

Could Lamb or Kaminsky get us out if Batum's contract? Would rather keep Lamb, but getting Batum outta here would make me consider it.

Batum and Kaminsky (or Lamb) to the Kings for George Hill and Vincent Carter (expiring)

Does this give Kings incentive to make the deal and take on Batum who they could play at SF

Seriously doubt they do that after the Blake deal. They don’t need Batum with Tobias in place.

With Detroit making the big move, Milwaukee needs to do something to improve. Could Kaminsky go home and take Nic with him? I can only wish.

This deal would be with the Kings, Tobias got traded to the Clippers.

[Bassman]

Could Lamb or Kaminsky get us out if Batum's contract? Would rather keep Lamb, but getting Batum outta here would make me consider it.

Batum and Kaminsky (or Lamb) to the Kings for George Hill and Vincent Carter (expiring)

Does this give Kings incentive to make the deal and take on Batum who they could play at SF

Seriously doubt they do that after the Blake deal. They don’t need Batum with Tobias in place.

With Detroit making the big move, Milwaukee needs to do something to improve. Could Kaminsky go home and take Nic with him? I can only wish.

This deal would be with the Kings, Tobias got traded to the Clippers.

Thanks, and sorry, been up since 3AM and very tired.

[Lwcasu]

First before i submit this, I'm under the impression teams can trade injured players as long as both teams are fully disclosed about the nature of the injury. That being said, I wish we'd trade for Love now that he's injured. I'm sure a package of Marvin + MKG + a protected 1st for Love and filler would get it done. And, we could entice Kemba + Howard that we're serious about winning now and look at them as long term pieces. That package would open up Lamb to start and give more minutes to Monk as his backup. Batum would slide into the 3. It's becoming obvious Cleveland isn't going to resign Lebron.

[stinger14]

First before i submit this, I'm under the impression teams can trade injured players as long as both teams are fully disclosed about the nature of the injury. That being said, I wish we'd trade for Love now that he's injured. I'm sure a package of Marvin + MKG + a protected 1st for Love and filler would get it done. And, we could entice Kemba + Howard that we're serious about winning now and look at them as long term pieces. That package would open up Lamb to start and give more minutes to Monk as his backup. Batum would slide into the 3. It's becoming obvious Cleveland isn't going to resign Lebron.

Protected top 10 this year, top 5 next year, and unprotected in 2020. As for this year, tank while letting Monk learn on the job, grab one of the top 7 guys in this year's draft and go into next season full steam ahead.

This year
Kemba, MCW
Lamb, Monk
Batum, Graham
Frank, JOB
Dwight, Cody
Let Love heal completely for next season.

Then next year
Kemba, ?
Lamb, Monk
Batum, ?
Love, Frank
Dwight, Cody

[Lwcasu]

First before i submit this, I'm under the impression teams can trade injured players as long as both teams are fully disclosed about the nature of the injury. That being said, I wish we'd trade for Love now that he's injured. I'm sure a package of Marvin + MKG + a protected 1st for Love and filler would get it done. And, we could entice Kemba + Howard that we're serious about winning now and look at them as long term pieces. That package would open up Lamb to start and give more minutes to Monk as his backup. Batum would slide into the 3. It's becoming obvious Cleveland isn't going to resign Lebron.

Protected top 10 this year, top 5 next year, and unprotected in 2020. As for this year, tank while letting Monk learn on the job, grab one of the top 7 guys in this year's draft and go into next season full steam ahead.

This year
Kemba, MCW
Lamb, Monk
Batum, Graham
Frank, JOB
Dwight, Cody
Let Love heal completely for next season.

Then next year
Kemba, ?
Lamb, Monk
Batum, ?
Love, Frank
Dwight, Cody

Exactly, and it'll open up more time for Lamb and Monk this season. Ofc a team with Love isn't going to win a championship, but it'll be a solid playoff team, fun to watch, actually generate more spacing with MKG out of the lineup, and our only real alternative is to tank. Unless we want to just keep the same roster and risk losing Kemba :/

[yosemiteben]

I would be all aboard an MKG + Marv for KLove trade.

[HornetJail]

I would be all aboard an MKG + Marv for KLove trade.

I wouldn't. Our defense would be an abomination

[bravor]

I would be all aboard an MKG + Marv for KLove trade.

I wouldn't. Our defense would be an abomination

You can add that Batum/Lamb does not work

Most productive Batum was when there was a reliable 3D (/read not Graham) between Kemba & Batum (Lee). For now this is what i would be looking for, then i would look for opportunities during next off season.

No idea what Memphis will be doing now but i posted an trade idea that could help both teams.

Ennis/J. Green & Davis for Lamb/Frank + JoB or Graham as filler.

Ennis is expiring but he is a much needed profile for this team. J. Green is a downgrade from Frank offensively but a major update on the perimeter defensively.
Memphis could do it if they manage to get a good return from Davis (they would replace him by Lamb and his very cheap contract). The other problem would be with Davis if they are high on him (he is young and very foul prone, some also arguing about his work ethic, but it's not another Noel/Okafor stuff at least). Here he could be the counterpart for Cody once Howard is gone.

[yosemiteben]

KLove at PF would help solve so many issues with this team offensively. Lack of ball movement and lack of reliable scoring options are major issues with this team, and Marv and MKG do not help in those areas.

I don't care if Graham plays with the starters instead of Lamb. I would much prefer KLove + Graham with our current starters to MKG + Marv.

I agree that we would drop defensively, but I think that would be more than offset by the major bump in offensive efficiency.

I don't see a better option for this team than increasing the talent level while also netting a high draft pick, which we'd almost certainly be doing by this trade.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I agree that Love would solve a lot of the team's issues. Of all the players on the team currently that I would want to have on the floor with him MKG is #2, behind only Kemba. If you trade Marv + MKG then I'm not sure where the team D comes from. Kemba is having a down year on that end for the 2nd year in a row, Batum ... hasn't been great on that end, Lamb is better than in previous years, but enough to allow for playing with Love? IDK. Graham's defensive measures don't seem super hopeful to me either.

[Diop]

I would be all aboard an MKG + Marv for KLove trade.

I wouldn't. Our defense would be an abomination

It’s unlikely you will solve all issues with 1 trade. I’d do that trade as it’s an upgrade then look for defensive wings.

I wish we could find someone to bite on Batum but it looks like the front office has tried everything without much success.

A cheap player like Ennis would be handy on the wing. Start him alongside Lamb. He plays D, athletic, crashes the boards and can shoot the 3.

So next year you start Kemba, Lamb or Batum, defensive wing, Love, Dwight

[Lwcasu]

I would be all aboard an MKG + Marv for KLove trade.

I wouldn't. Our defense would be an abomination

It’s unlikely you will solve all issues with 1 trade. I’d do that trade as it’s an upgrade then look for defensive wings.

I wish we could find someone to bite on Batum but it looks like the front office has tried everything without much success.

A cheap player like Ennis would be handy on the wing. Start him alongside Lamb. He plays D, athletic, crashes the boards and can shoot the 3.

So next year you start Kemba, Lamb or Batum, defensive wing, Love, Dwight

Yeah unfortunately I don't think Cleveland would do this trade. I think they should do this trade, but I fully expect them to do nothing because it almost appears they don't know what they want to do. They want both sides, to get better, and to get better picks, because they're trying to play both sides with LeBron. It doesn't help with LeBron not giving them clear direction. But I absolutely think Charlotte should do this trade if nothing more than to show commitment to Kemba and try something new. Sure our defense will be worse, but in this modern age of the NBA offense wins, and we lack spacing. MKG would be great on a team like OKC with multiple scorers in Westbrook, PG, and Carmelo, but here we'd be much better off starting someone who can space the floor. You just shouldn't have lineups that consist of Dwight and MKG. Theoretically, we need to surround Dwight with as many shooters as we can.

[Diop]

Mkg is younger than love and marvs contract is movable, so I could see Cleveland looking at it.

That Cleveland team would match well with warriors death lineup. I’d put mkg on curry to annoy the crap out of him. Crowder on Durant, lebron on green also playing point guard, Marv on Thompson. Everyone can switch.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Read on Twitter

Unsure of reliability. Want no part of that as stated. Also posted in Monk thread.

The one thing that makes me wonder ... Whiteside's salary roughly matches Batum.

[Liver_Pooty]

Read on Twitter

Unsure of reliability. Want no part of that as stated. Also posted in Monk thread.

The one thing that makes me wonder ... Whiteside's salary roughly matches Batum.

Well that account has 26 tweets and 15 followers.