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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1901 » by fendilim » Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:20 am

eyriq wrote:How do we come in so hot to start the game, and so cold after halftime?

Young team still have to find 2nd gear.

Veteran teams usually just pace the 1st half and turn it on the 2nd half
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1902 » by ogmagicfan » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:00 am

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eyriq wrote:How do we come in so hot to start the game, and so cold after halftime?

You play a bunch of 19, 21, and 22 year olds. That's how. :lol:

Remember when we lost to Houston in game 1 of the finals?

Teams start playing harder defense against the magic I. The second half .


This is pretty much what I've noticed, this along with simply packing the paint and daring us to beat then by the 3

Our offense & defense really feed off of each other, poor offensive possessions lead to more transition opportunities, disorganization, & more energy expended on offense, and less to use on defense
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1903 » by KillMonger » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:48 am

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1904 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:59 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
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thelead wrote:You play a bunch of 19, 21, and 22 year olds. That's how.

Remember when we lost to Houston in game 1 of the finals?

Teams start playing harder defense against the magic I. The second half .


This is pretty much what I've noticed, this along with simply packing the paint and daring us to beat then by the 3

Our offense & defense really feed off of each other, poor offensive possessions lead to more transition opportunities, disorganization, & more energy expended on offense, and less to use on defense


Indeed my observations as well.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1905 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:05 am

eyriq wrote:From camo on discord:

#4 Offense, #1 Defense, #1 net rating in the first half

#30 Offense, #16 Defense, #29 Net Rating in the second half




Wow that's an insane split, I've never seen that before in all my years watching NBA. A representation of who we are though, a young feisty team with talent but lacking veteran experience along with structural deficiencies that need to be addressed next summer by the front office. That formula leads to around a .500 record.

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1906 » by drsd » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:02 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
eyriq wrote:From camo on discord:

#4 Offense, #1 Defense, #1 net rating in the first half

#30 Offense, #16 Defense, #29 Net Rating in the second half




Wow that's an insane split, I've never seen that before in all my years watching NBA. A representation of who we are though, a young feisty team with talent but lacking veteran experience along with structural deficiencies that need to be addressed next summer by the front office. That formula leads to around a .500 record.


Game-1: better 3rd quarter
Game-2: worse 3rd quarter
Game-3: worse 3rd quarter
Game-4: worse 3rd quarter
Game-5: worse 3rd quarter
Game-6: better 3rd quarter
Game-7: worse 3rd quarter
Game-8: better 3rd quarter
Game-9: tied 3rd quarter
Game-10: worse 3rd quarter
Game-11: worse 3rd quarter

I see a clear pattern in Orlando not coming out focused in the 3rd quarters and being outscored. Some of the above, Orlando go DRUBBED in the 3rd quarter. The Magic presenters have commented regularly on this; and it must be Coach Mosley's focus for the team to improve. The Magic is almost always the younger team, and should be the team with energy later in a game. Orlando should be the stronger second half team. Something needs to be fixed here.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1907 » by SOUL » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:48 am

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1908 » by thelead » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:38 pm

This super young team is 6-5 through 11 games and half this board is ready to trade everyone :lol:
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1909 » by Audi » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:55 pm

thelead wrote:This super young team is 6-5 through 11 games and half this board is ready to trade everyone :lol:


With a good chunk of those games without 2/5 of the SL.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1910 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:56 pm

thelead wrote:This super young team is 6-5 through 11 games and half this board is ready to trade everyone
I have to admit there's something very appealing about consolidating Fultz, Isaac, and Okeke into an established quality starter/borderline all-star.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1911 » by thelead » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:36 pm

eyriq wrote:
thelead wrote:This super young team is 6-5 through 11 games and half this board is ready to trade everyone
I have to admit there's something very appealing about consolidating Fultz, Isaac, and Okeke into an established quality starter/borderline all-star.

I mean, sure, you want to trade non-core pieces and picks for a star? sounds good... but we have people bitching about Poalo, bitching about Franz, bitching about Suggs, bitching about AB... and yet, we're 6-5 with said 22, 21, 22, and 19 year olds.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1912 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:53 pm

thelead wrote:
eyriq wrote:
thelead wrote:This super young team is 6-5 through 11 games and half this board is ready to trade everyone
I have to admit there's something very appealing about consolidating Fultz, Isaac, and Okeke into an established quality starter/borderline all-star.

I mean, sure, you want to trade non-core pieces and picks for a star? sounds good... but we have people bitching about Poalo, bitching about Franz, bitching about Suggs, bitching about AB... and yet, we're 6-5 with said 22, 21, 22, and 19 year olds.
Yeah, we are in a great spot
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1913 » by VFX » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:55 pm

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1914 » by Skybox » Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:09 pm

It's not really debatable that we need to goose our offense...specifically with shooting.

But, I love that our defense has already arrived...offenses get smothered and changed in the playoffs, defense is forever. Defense just won't do it alone.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1915 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:33 pm

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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1916 » by KillMonger » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:52 pm

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If he doesn't play i wonder who orlando magic twitter/X fans will blame this time...Suggs seems to be their scapegoat
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1917 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:59 pm

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If he doesn't play i wonder who orlando magic twitter/X fans will blame this time...Suggs seems to be their scapegoat
Black will be the whipping boy. Basically any guard who can't shoot is going to be a whipping boy
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1918 » by RichCollab » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:25 pm

Hope Jalen plays. It helps some Harris is back so if Suggs needs a game off I’m fine with that since he leaves all out on the court when he plays.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1919 » by eyriq » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:27 pm

RichCollab wrote:Hope Jalen plays. It helps some Harris is back so if Suggs needs a game off I’m fine with that since he leaves all out on the court when he plays.
If he's out, Harris gets the bump into the starting lineup and one of Okeke, Houstan, or Jett get the bump into the rotation. We need Suggs
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Regular Season 

Post#1920 » by VFX » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:27 pm

KillMonger wrote:
eyriq wrote:
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If he doesn't play i wonder who orlando magic twitter/X fans will blame this time...Suggs seems to be their scapegoat


Kinda weird he’s the scapegoat. What’s the issue? He doesn’t play hard enough?

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