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2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: 2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#1941 » by ChaosHamster » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:00 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.


We would probably need to offer a max, and even then Nets might match.
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Post#1942 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:20 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.


We would probably need to offer a max, and even then Nets might match.

I think they’ll be MaxCat hunting and maybe they’ll alienate him some by prioritizing other players over him.
They already paid Spence. Hopefully he’s a little mad lol.

He’s really playing good basketball. Hindsight is 20/20 but damn, he’d look really good in laker purple and gold right now over the guys Magic chose instead. But yeah, you’re probably right.
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Post#1943 » by NYKHardKnock » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:35 am

ChaosHamster wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.


We would probably need to offer a max, and even then Nets might match.
Isnt Russell unrestricted?
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Post#1944 » by ChaosHamster » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:44 am

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ChaosHamster wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.


We would probably need to offer a max, and even then Nets might match.
Isnt Russell unrestricted?


Nop. Restricted.

I really like Dlo. He is really fun to watch. Dude just has zero quickness and has to relay on changing speeds and just overall craftiness to get a good shot up.

But I have doubts what he is doing right now is sustainable. He is pulling up from deeeeep with no hesitation and swishing every shot. His mid-range has been money. And just generally hes scoring 30 points without ever getting to the lane.

His defense is still atrocious, so I wonder what will happen when his shot isn't falling.

I would be really cautious about giving him the max.
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Post#1945 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:38 pm

Read on Twitter


Kinda taking a shot at Frank since we could of had Mitchell if we didn't pass him up for Frank in the draft. :dontknow:
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Post#1946 » by NJ-NYK-17 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:45 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
Read on Twitter


Kinda taking a shot at Frank since we could of had Mitchell if we didn't pass him up for Frank in the draft. :dontknow:


lol wow :roll:
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Post#1947 » by MoochieNorris » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:34 am

kanter, hardaway, courtney lee and lance thomas for conley, parsons and cassipi .


always really liked conley but he's 31. still probably has 2-3 years left of really good ball though. erases the chance of getting a free agent this summer but i think increases the chances of getting a max player the following summer exponentially imo.

feels like the front office is all in on KD this summer though, as they should be. i wouldn't pull the trigger on this before KD's decision.
if he stays in GS or goes somewhere else I would seriously consider making a move for conley though.
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Post#1948 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:13 am

I hate to see any of these players get injured, but injuries to both AD and Oladipo may help us move our vets.
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Post#1949 » by TBri1974 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:44 pm

I haven't been watching him much, but I am not a fan of Russel getting a max offer from us. If we did go in that direction - throwing money at a one year wonder (we're one year removed from him looking like a bust) - I hope we would look at a reasonable offer or at most a one year audition offer with a TO for the 2nd year. Both only if we strike out elsewhere.
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Post#1950 » by cgf » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:01 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.

That would be such a knicks to do.
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Post#1951 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:51 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
Read on Twitter


Kinda taking a shot at Frank since we could of had Mitchell if we didn't pass him up for Frank in the draft. :dontknow:


why can't he just like both players?
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Post#1952 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:52 pm

cgf wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.

That would be such a knicks to do.


the nets are looking like winners for developing d lo... but, come on. we can't seriously be thinking of him as a max target.

i gladly admit i wrote him off too early.
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Post#1953 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:54 pm

TBri1974 wrote:I haven't been watching him much, but I am not a fan of Russel getting a max offer from us. If we did go in that direction - throwing money at a one year wonder (we're one year removed from him looking like a bust) - I hope we would look at a reasonable offer or at most a one year audition offer with a TO for the 2nd year. Both only if we strike out elsewhere.


he's looked AWESOME of late. he looks like he's put it together and has found a perfect match in kenny atkinson. i'm really glad for the nets, to be honest. i have nothing but respect for this against all odds resurgence.
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Post#1954 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:37 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
TBri1974 wrote:I haven't been watching him much, but I am not a fan of Russel getting a max offer from us. If we did go in that direction - throwing money at a one year wonder (we're one year removed from him looking like a bust) - I hope we would look at a reasonable offer or at most a one year audition offer with a TO for the 2nd year. Both only if we strike out elsewhere.


he's looked AWESOME of late. he looks like he's put it together and has found a perfect match in kenny atkinson. i'm really glad for the nets, to be honest. i have nothing but respect for this against all odds resurgence.

Word.

The dude is looking exactly how he did at Ohio State. Efficient, in control and heady with the ball.
He’s making shots, leading and making teammates better. He also seeems to be in great shape.
There’s nothing fools gold about it.

Now it’d maybe would take a max contract offer to pry him away from the NYets and it’s debatable if we need to spend our assets there but Russell is playing like a top two pick this season. And it looks totally sustainable.
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Post#1955 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:41 pm

cgf wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.

That would be such a knicks to do.

You haven’t been watching him much if that’s your take. It’s not Mudiay with his I-think-I-can streaky finishing ability making baby steps improvements.
He’s playing fluidly and smoothly. Looks the part of a star. Not a reclamation project. He’s what, 22?
Eventually we’ll learn that these kids aren’t gonna always hit the ground running. It’s our mistake to pigeonhole dudes when they’re not even old enough to drink. He made a huge mistake with the Swaggy P thing and he’s working hard to shake the bad teammate label.
And the work is paying off. It’s not a “typical Knicks” move at all.
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Post#1956 » by cgf » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:00 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:
cgf wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.

That would be such a knicks to do.

You haven’t been watching him much if that’s your take. It’s not Mudiay with his I-think-I-can streaky finishing ability making baby steps improvements.
He’s playing fluidly and smoothly. Looks the part of a star. Not a reclamation project. He’s what, 22?
Eventually we’ll learn that these kids aren’t gonna always hit the ground running. It’s our mistake to pigeonhole dudes when they’re not even old enough to drink. He made a huge mistake with the Swaggy P thing and he’s working hard to shake the bad teammate label.
And the work is paying off. It’s not a “typical Knicks” move at all.


Hey, that's my line!

My issue with DLo isn't the struggles he had as a rookie or 2nd year player, it's the limitations to his game that he still has & is likely to always have...and for what it's worth I don't hold what happened against him. It was probably done for the wrong reasons & the "wrong thing" to do as a team-mate, but as someone who's both cheated & been cheated on, cheaters deserve to get exposed. So in the end, the right thing came off all that drama. Even if it was bad for his career.

If he'll sign with us for a bargain, then I'd happily take him...but the same was once true of Timmy. The problem comes with the "sign(ing) with us for a bargain" part. Given the kind of money & commitment I think he'll get from some team, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be that team given the way the salary cap and rookie-scale/max contracts warp the value of those highly-paid-non-max guys. That's why it would be "such a knicks thing to do" to me, because he's going to neither be a true star nor a good value contract...and if we're not getting a star or a good value contract, or using that capspace to eat money & gain assets, then at least give me the older guy who probably won't require as long of a commitment & who would be better suited to mentoring Frank...like Rubio.

DLo is firmly in the Payton / Brogdon / Rozier tier for me of guys I'd much rather have than Mudiay this year, but who I don't want to pay what they are likely to get in FA next summer...unless (for some reason) they want to give us a major bargain. We have enough of those THJ contracts on our books without adding another one being the team that pays DLo or Rozier.
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Post#1957 » by 8516knicks » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:06 am

If we strike out on KD, would Mirotic make any sense? Frontline of Knox, Mirotic and KP?
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Post#1958 » by cgf » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:16 am

8516knicks wrote:If we strike out on KD, would Mirotic make any sense? Frontline of Knox, Mirotic and KP?


I'd rather grab someone like Green / Aminu or bring Vonleh back, if we end up with money to play with after getting a veteran PG. Someone who can stretch the floor, but gives you more defensively / on the glass than he does as a scorer.
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Post#1959 » by 8516knicks » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:43 am

"if we end up with money to play with after getting a veteran PG." Who fits this? I think Conley and Kemba are overpriced given age and not compatible with our KP & Mitch, Knox core, etc. Are there any undervalued backup PGs we could snag?
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Post#1960 » by frothbrain » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:23 am

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