Draft Express: Ilyasova Available For Late 1st/2012 1st

Fight the Tank · Post #21 » by **Fight the Tank** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:23 pm

I think Ersan is worth a first rounder in this draft. This makes a lot of sense.

emunney · Post #22 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:26 pm

I'd do it in a second if I were Boston or OKC.

JHSFIVE · Post #23 » by **JHSFIVE** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:28 pm

I'd take their '12 pick... They're regressing, imo.

Chuck Diesel · Post #24 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:28 pm

I believe Ersan is a better player than he showed last season and should have a little more value. He was coming off an off-season where he played all summer for Turkey and came into a situation where he got injured and couldn't find a consistent rhythm. I still think the guy will become a 15-8 player in the NBA if he finds the right situation.

With that said, I'd look to move him for an instant contributor or a top tier player who's already been drafted and spent some developing overseas.

emunney · Post #25 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:28 pm

Boston's? Absolutely.

LUKE23 · Post #26 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:29 pm

Boston, with a one year window, makes a lot of sense actually. The chances of Ersan being better than 25 next year are high, IMO.

JHSFIVE · Post #27 » by **JHSFIVE** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:29 pm

I'd take SA's '12 pick... They're regressing, imo.

BucksRUS · Post #28 » by **BucksRUS** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:29 pm

Bulls might be interested. They aren't keeping both 28 and 30. They have been looking for a stretch 4.

Sinister · Post #29 » by **Sinister** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:30 pm

Newz wrote:I wouldn't be shocked either. I just don't think it will happen. There is no way if I am any of the GMs in the NBA I am giving up a first rounder for Ersan.

Maybe, MAYBE if I am ready to contend and I feel the only missing piece to the puzzle is a mediocre stretch 4 that isn't even that good of a shooter.

A veteran 6'10" power forward that rebounds well, plays good defense and will lead your team on the Miller Lite hustle board and can play emergency minutes at center, all while being signed to a very cheap contract is worth a first round pick in most drafts.

LUKE23 · Post #30 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:30 pm

BucksRUS wrote:Bulls might be interested. They aren't keeping both 28 and 30. They have been looking for a stretch 4.

Bulls make sense too, yep.

europa · Post #31 » by **europa** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:31 pm

If it was me and I got a late first for Ilyasova, I'd then package that with 40 and try to move up. I think someone would bite in this draft.

No matter how it shakes out, I think we can safely assume that Ilyasova won't be on the team past Thursday night.

2cat · Post #32 » by **2cat** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:33 pm

I haven't done a ton of reading on the NBA lately, but it seems a lot of analysts are still kinda high on Ersan having potential on a contender. I wouldn't mind a 1st round 20s pick and I don't think it's unreasonable someone would bite.

If you're already a good enough team that you're getting a pick in the 20s, why not grab a player where you absolutely know what he's gonna do for you rather than one who has pineride potential in a mediocre draft?

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #33 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:34 pm

europa wrote:Not sure where to put this one but it's a new development and a very smart one by Hammond in my opinion. Draft Express is saying Ilyasova is available for a late first or 2012 first.

Let's see if anyone bites assuming nothing goes down with Houston or another team.

I was going to post this earlier but did not kow if it would be locked or not...

MilBucksBackOnTop06 · Post #34 » by **MilBucksBackOnTop06** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:36 pm

2cat wrote:I haven't done a ton of reading on the NBA lately, but it seems a lot of analysts are still kinda high on Ersan having potential on a contender. I wouldn't mind a 1st round 20s pick and I don't think it's unreasonable someone would bite.

If you're already a good enough team that you're getting a pick in the 20s, why not grab a player where you absolutely know what he's gonna do for you rather than one who has pineride potential in a mediocre draft?

Ersan would be excellent on a contender or any team with multiple picks. Maybe the Bucks can get something for him...for a change.

Hopefully they cash in on an asset.

Nebula1 · Post #35 » by **Nebula1** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:38 pm

InsideOut · Post #36 » by **InsideOut** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:40 pm

Great job by Hammond in trying to turn a who cares bench player into a who cares late pick. The guy is full of great moves like this. Another 1527 moves like this and Hammond's incremental rebuild will reach fruition.

drew881 · Post #37 » by **drew881** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:40 pm

If we knew anything about his buyout desires during the season, we should have traded him at the deadline. I'm also wondering if it would be more advantageous to not buy him out, and keep him to trade at next deadline, when some contenders could be in a more desperate situation and give up a 2012 pick.

Chuck Diesel · Post #38 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:41 pm

I'd ship him to Houston for Goran Dragic and Sergio Llull or Dragic and Maarty Leunen. I'd also trade him to Utah for the rights to Ante Tomic or to Portland for the rights to Victor Claver or Joel Freeland

More Bang For The Bucks · Post #39 » by **More Bang For The Bucks** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:41 pm

saw this coming yesterday when LRMAM wa QO'd and said it in that thread. Ersan to the Heat or Bulls for 30 or 31 makes a ton of sense.

europa · Post #40 » by **europa** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:42 pm

drew881 wrote:If we knew anything about his buyout desires during the season, we should have traded him at the deadline.

I would've traded him last summer when I created the Ilyasova is Expendable thread but I don't think you would've gotten anything more for him then or at the deadline then you could get now.