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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#21 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat May 27, 2023 6:30 am

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What did he say that was bad? Looks like he was defending his calls on Twitter.

Why does the NBA promote gambling and get kids addicted and you can't have a ref defend himself? Not asking you that question...more so thinking out loud. The hypocrisy is outstanding.



I have no issue with the twitter account. I have an issue with a guy with a clear Boston bias being able to ref Boston games.


There is no clear bias. His record reffing Celtics games is .633% over 79 games. Celtics record in that time is .571%.

There will always be variance. Look at Sixers.

Ray Acosta - 15 wins, 4 losses in Sixers games

Well above Sixers win percentage in that time. Should we investigate him?


I mean I wouldn't look at win % of games with a ref vs record overall as strong evidence of bias. Though if I did I wouldn't be encouraged by finding out their win % is 6% higher.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#22 » by AussieCeltic » Sat May 27, 2023 10:00 am

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I have no issue with the twitter account. I have an issue with a guy with a clear Boston bias being able to ref Boston games.


There is no clear bias. His record reffing Celtics games is .633% over 79 games. Celtics record in that time is .571%.

There will always be variance. Look at Sixers.

Ray Acosta - 15 wins, 4 losses in Sixers games

Well above Sixers win percentage in that time. Should we investigate him?


Just think you should look at these stats and then get the refs with the most neutral record reffing these important games.


Well that’s not smart at all.

What if one ref was involved in all the games vs lottery teams? Or one was involved in more games vs contenders? There’s way too many variables involved.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#23 » by AussieCeltic » Sat May 27, 2023 10:05 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

I have no issue with the twitter account. I have an issue with a guy with a clear Boston bias being able to ref Boston games.


There is no clear bias. His record reffing Celtics games is .633% over 79 games. Celtics record in that time is .571%.

There will always be variance. Look at Sixers.

Ray Acosta - 15 wins, 4 losses in Sixers games

Well above Sixers win percentage in that time. Should we investigate him?


I mean I wouldn't look at win % of games with a ref vs record overall as strong evidence of bias. Though if I did I wouldn't be encouraged by finding out their win % is 6% higher.


6% over the 79 games is 4 - 5 games. That’s such a small variation over a large sample size.

Did he ref more games that Celtics were favoured in? If he’s higher, then theres more than likely refs with a lower percentage in Celtics games. Do we look at them for their bias against the Celtics?
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#24 » by Phreak50 » Sat May 27, 2023 10:59 am

Lock this thread.

That twitter account is spreading lies.

They made fake news about the 36-2 record and the whole internet including you sheep here lapped it up.

Eric Lewis’ record is 49-28 with the Celtics.

Stop this fake news spreading.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#25 » by hauntedcomputer » Sat May 27, 2023 11:07 am

Who cares about winning percentage variance? You think a ref is going to throw games just because he was a fan of the other team growing up?

It's all about the betting lines and point margins for these guys, and the NBA announcers are begging people to bet on who is going to make the next basket. It's really sickening. The only real fix is random financial audits of refs the same way they randomly test players for drugs.

But the owners certainly don't want anyone looking under the hood and risking cash flow.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#26 » by Froob » Sat May 27, 2023 11:24 am

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eyeatoma wrote:Makes me sick to my stomach that he reffed Sixers/Celtics games. Makes that Game 6 data that said that there were 13 calls that were in the favour of the Celtics in game 6. Doesn't take anything away from the fact that Philly flopped and choked, but this will also be remembered.


What did he say that was bad? Looks like he was defending his calls on Twitter.

Why does the NBA promote gambling and get kids addicted and you can't have a ref defend himself? Not asking you that question...more so thinking out loud. The hypocrisy is outstanding.



I have no issue with the twitter account. I have an issue with a guy with a clear Boston bias being able to ref Boston games.

Lol Sixers analytics determined the Sixers got screwed? Convenient. Daryl did the same thing in Houston when he lost to the Warriors.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-rockets-say-refs-cost-them-93-points-2018-west-finals
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#27 » by JDR720 » Sat May 27, 2023 11:33 am

His record with the Celtics isn't significantly different than several other teams.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/lewiser99r.html

His record with the 76ers is below .500, but not an outlier by any means either.

Also have to consider the 76ers tanked for years, while the Celtics have been solid for the most part since he's been in the league.

So, in conclusion, this is nothing.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#28 » by robbie84 » Sat May 27, 2023 12:22 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Makes me sick to my stomach that he reffed Sixers/Celtics games. Makes that Game 6 data that said that there were 13 calls that were in the favour of the Celtics in game 6. Doesn't take anything away from the fact that Philly flopped and choked, but this will also be remembered.


it really won't.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#29 » by eyeatoma » Sat May 27, 2023 1:20 pm

JDR720 wrote:His record with the Celtics isn't significantly different than several other teams.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/lewiser99r.html

His record with the 76ers is below .500, but not an outlier by any means either.

Also have to consider the 76ers tanked for years, while the Celtics have been solid for the most part since he's been in the league.

So, in conclusion, this is nothing.



That is a good point.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#30 » by Mean_Streets » Sat May 27, 2023 1:39 pm

JDR720 wrote:His record with the Celtics isn't significantly different than several other teams.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/lewiser99r.html

His record with the 76ers is below .500, but not an outlier by any means either.

Also have to consider the 76ers tanked for years, while the Celtics have been solid for the most part since he's been in the league.

So, in conclusion, this is nothing.

Huh? The Celtics have a higher winning percentage than any other team in games where he refs.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#31 » by TheSheriff » Sat May 27, 2023 1:52 pm

Mean_Streets wrote:
JDR720 wrote:His record with the Celtics isn't significantly different than several other teams.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/lewiser99r.html

His record with the 76ers is below .500, but not an outlier by any means either.

Also have to consider the 76ers tanked for years, while the Celtics have been solid for the most part since he's been in the league.

So, in conclusion, this is nothing.

Huh? The Celtics have a higher winning percentage than any other team in games where he refs.


And the Celtics opponent shoot more free throws than the Celtics in games that he refs.

Teams of opponents remember all the “bad calls” that go against them.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#32 » by NBA4Lyfe » Sat May 27, 2023 2:56 pm

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The NBA in general needs to get their reffing a total revamp. Too many blown calls every playoffs. There were a few in the Sixers series like the Tatum push off on Maxey where the entire media and fans on realgm all agreed that it was a clear push off and then the NBA doubles down on it being legal. Then the data Morey shared during the start of Game 7 where there was a 13-4 advantage in disparity of calls for Boston on calls that were incorrectly called and benefited the other team.

This happens all over the league, and it is progressively getting worse. Just makes for a bad product where it's always in the back of your mind if the game was called fairly.

One of the leading reasons why NBA refereeing has declined - outside of increased pace of play - is because of old referees phasing out. It takes substantial amounts of time to develop referees, a “total revamp” would be catastrophic.


I don't doubt though, but it seems like some of the biggest issues are with the oldest refs. Scott Foster, Eric Lewis, Tony Brothers.


I would argue Ed Malloy is another that’s corrupt
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#33 » by bisme37 » Sat May 27, 2023 4:02 pm

Hold up. Is there another accredited source for this story with any actual details?

This Lakeshowyo account is just a Lakers fan account. And the same one that tweeted false stuff about Lewis a few months ago, which led to his kids and wife getting death threats.

I did little twitter search and all I'm seeing is other BS accounts repeating what lakeshowyo said.

RGM isn't here to spread misinformation so it would be cool if we knew a) if this was true and if so, b) what they're investigating. If it's this burner account thing that's quite different than being investigated for his reffing.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#34 » by clyde21 » Sat May 27, 2023 4:07 pm

is there an actual report here or just a rando twitter acct with a one liner and a meme?
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#35 » by DorianRo » Sat May 27, 2023 4:12 pm

They're all crooked.. It only takes a quarter of basketball these playoffs to realize when Whistles are going off every 2 seconds and the ungodly FT disparity
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#36 » by Profound23 » Sat May 27, 2023 4:17 pm

azcatz11 wrote:What did he say in that twitter thing? I didn't read the whole thing. He was just replying to random people?



-He along with his family have been seen in Celtic gear.

-He has been a ref in numerous Celtic playoff games, including last year vs Milwaukee, last year vs Miami, and this year vs Miami.

-He was caught creating a fake Twitter account (KD style) to defend his calls in Celtics games by fans who were calling him out on his BS.
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Re: Eric Lewis to be investigated 

Post#37 » by bisme37 » Sat May 27, 2023 4:28 pm

I know I'm a C's fan and everything but as a mod I'm not comfortable with this thread after looking into the story.

I can't find any article with any details on anything. And this Lakeshowyo twitter account is not anywhere close to an accredited source. It's the same twitter fan account that lied about Lewis a few months ago.

I do see this tweet from Marc Stein and it's the closest thing I can find to a real reporter even mentioning it.

Read on Twitter


So IF Eric Lewis is being investigated, it's not for his reffing. It's for this alleged Twitter burner account.

And we already have a thread for the alleged burner account. And the tweet from Stein was already posted there.

So I'm not squashing the discussion but let's use the existing thread that at least has some detail and background on what's going on.

Posting a fan tweet from an account that hates Lewis with no detail is not up to standard and makes it very unclear what the investigation actually is (if there's an investigation at all).

TLDR: use this thread if you want to discuss this... viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2293667&start=20

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