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RSCD3_ wrote:He used to be more respectable of a poster but it's like he became infamous and decided to roll like a troll
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Then it must have been long before my time. Ever since I have joined I have not seen one good basketball post from him. Almost every post he makes is about some backhanded compliment or sneaky diss towards LeBron/Heat. He also has the most dumb logic when discussing basketball with him.JordansBulls wrote:The Warriors are basically a good college team until they meet a team with bigs in the NBA.
PaulieWal wrote:RSCD3_ wrote:He used to be more respectable of a poster but it's like he became infamous and decided to roll like a troll
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Dumbass Barkley taking a shot at us again
Charles Barkley wrote:### Wade, Barkley said recently, “gets far too much credit” for the Heat’s 2006 championship, asserting that Shaquille O’Neal and Alonzo Mourning made the difference against the Mavericks. You might recall – even if Barkley doesn’t - that Wade averaged 34.7 points and 7.9 rebounds and led the Heat to four straight wins against Dallas. Even O’Neal, on TNT’s set, scoffed at Barkley’s theory.
### Wade, Barkley said, “doesn’t make players around him better.” You know who might disagree? That mostly undistinguished cast that Wade led to the playoffs – without LeBron James – in Erik Spoelstra’s first two seasons as coach.
### While making a broader point that James should be taking more late-game shots, Barkley inexplicably felt compelled to add this:
“You know the thing that’s funny? Dwyane Wade never gets any criticism because he didn’t close in the Finals last year. I actually think LeBron got tired. He used a lot of energy shutting down Derrick Rose. Then he had to guard Jason Terry. I think he got tired. But it's funny how Wade doesn't get any criticism for not finishing in the Finals last year. Wade’s a great offensive player, but LeBron makes everybody around him better.”
Barkley should check the stats. Wade scored more than any other player in last year’s Finals – his 26.5 average a shade over Dirk Nowitzki’s 26.0 and much higher than James’ 17.8. He also shot 54.6 percent – better than James’ 47.8 and Nowitzki’s 41.6. Could Wade have done more late in close games? Certainly. But so could have everybody else on the Heat.
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heat4life wrote:narmerguy wrote:heat4life wrote:I agree. Young squads are exciting because of their athleticism and potential. Regular season stuff but if Lebron really wants to win like he says, he understands that you win with experienced players and that is what RIley needs to focus on. Miami needs a nice balance of youth, prime with potential to develop that can help carry us during the season, prime players and experienced veterans that know all the ins and outs about winning and you can rely on during playoffs series.
See what San Antonio has done with Tim Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. A nice mix of veterans, prime players and young developing players. But during the playoffs? The vets carries that team.
I am not sure Cleveland offers that with their still developing farm of young players.
Two things:
1) Cleveland could flip the pick for a valuable vet like Love, who would help bring veteran mixture to the very young team
2) Lebron could simply opt out of his contract next year, and use the upcoming year to wait and see what becomes of Miami and what becomes of Cleveland.
I think this team needs some youth. We've relied very heavily on vets, and that's great but it's also a bit of a gamble because you never know when they're going to fall off that cliff. It's a hard job to pick--youth vs experience vs cost--but that's why I don't get paid the big bucks
Oh absolutely, there are all kinds of scenarios that can playout but Love controls his destiny because he is a FA in 2015 so I doubt he wants to go to Cleveland and I doubt Cleveland gives up the 1st pick for a possible 1 year rental.. but I get your point.
With that being said, I agree that Lebron's best move is to use his year to year option and see where the Heat stands first and what else is out there second. Lebron wants to win at the end of the day and every season there are very few teams that can offer that.
Also, on your comments of youth vs veterans, it has been proven over and over that an experienced team with veterans win over youth. However, I agree that every teams needs to develop youth BEHIND those veterans like the Spurs do. That is why I think this upcoming season, adding youth at the end of the bench is going to be a high priority to replace some of the retiring/older players. But I still expect this team to win with a core of Big 3 and veterans (Andersen, Chalmers, Cole, Allen Jones, Haslem etc).
qjz123 wrote:I mean look at the Hate that Barkley has thrown at Wade he seems like he's fishing for ways to attack him.Charles Barkley wrote:### Wade, Barkley said recently, “gets far too much credit” for the Heat’s 2006 championship, asserting that Shaquille O’Neal and Alonzo Mourning made the difference against the Mavericks. You might recall – even if Barkley doesn’t - that Wade averaged 34.7 points and 7.9 rebounds and led the Heat to four straight wins against Dallas. Even O’Neal, on TNT’s set, scoffed at Barkley’s theory.
### Wade, Barkley said, “doesn’t make players around him better.” You know who might disagree? That mostly undistinguished cast that Wade led to the playoffs – without LeBron James – in Erik Spoelstra’s first two seasons as coach.
### While making a broader point that James should be taking more late-game shots, Barkley inexplicably felt compelled to add this:
“You know the thing that’s funny? Dwyane Wade never gets any criticism because he didn’t close in the Finals last year. I actually think LeBron got tired. He used a lot of energy shutting down Derrick Rose. Then he had to guard Jason Terry. I think he got tired. But it's funny how Wade doesn't get any criticism for not finishing in the Finals last year. Wade’s a great offensive player, but LeBron makes everybody around him better.”
Barkley should check the stats. Wade scored more than any other player in last year’s Finals – his 26.5 average a shade over Dirk Nowitzki’s 26.0 and much higher than James’ 17.8. He also shot 54.6 percent – better than James’ 47.8 and Nowitzki’s 41.6. Could Wade have done more late in close games? Certainly. But so could have everybody else on the Heat.
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DivineFury wrote:Chuck is just trolling and getting his soundbites in. He says stupid **** just so people talk about him talking about it. Example, San Antonio women being ugly. Now there's a whole god damn movement down there about it.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
kingjames623 wrote:The Spurs are just damn good. All OKC does is chuck up **** shots, some of them go in, they shoot some FTs and that's it.
JordansBulls wrote:The Warriors are basically a good college team until they meet a team with bigs in the NBA.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
SweetTouch wrote:Like I said OKC in 5
People act like Iblocka is irreplaceable , he's like bosh
