OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years

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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#241 » by Ambrose » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:13 pm

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Funny. I wrote somewhat unrelated but related.

Really counted on people actually reading what I wrote…


Lol nice cop out :lol:


Yeah asking people to be literate is really a cop out nowadays.


Apparently asking people to be honest is.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#242 » by heatwillbeback » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:14 pm

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TPA wrote:She has to get a nine year sentence because it's the only way you can begin to justify releasing a notorious arms dealer, nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" for a pothead WNBA player.
It's not everyday a unicorn come strolling into your country with drugs, as geopolitical stakes are redlining! Well played Russia!

As soon as there was mention of the prisoner swap, I thought to myself, 1) there's no way she's getting off, and 2) there's no way she's getting a light sentence that wouldn't be able to justify a swap.


Yep.

This isn’t a criminal case at this point. It’s a negotiation and Russia was always going to get into the best position for the negotiations.

It really does suck that a persons life and freedom is at issue with nonsense like this between the countries, but unfortunately that’s just the reality of the situation.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#243 » by TheDiesel36 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:14 pm

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Dzon Dilindzer wrote:or you could not commit a crime

what a concept, right


Lol, get over yourself., some "crime" is the last thing what its about, under normal circumstances cops would light one up with her, there is no way a basketball star in Russia goes to prison over weed, these girls go to Russia for a reason - They get paid and treated well in the rich top clubs, simple. But February 22 is a hell of a bad time to be carrying potentially dangerous for yourself., she should have known her status at the time.

She got 9 years so her value as a bargaining chip would be higher. Doesnt suprise me, Russia is a sad morally corupt place bereft of any standards, as are majority of Russians.

It can be hard to fully grasp how it is to live in a country where news, media, perception, everything is controlled or there is an attempt to control it. Many of the Russian people are also partly victims, not all by any means, and not fully victims of course.

One of the toughest situations for people is living in Ukraine and having Russian relatives, telling them, "this is what is happening on the ground", but their media, news, everything is painting a totally different narrative and telling them people saying otherwise are bad, and your relatives who have known you your whole life believe their news reports over you.


Russia has a history of this, I just dont believe that Putin and his media are that all powerful that that is the main part of the equation, people like him just keep coming, except for Gorby (God bless him) and unfortunately Yeltsin, psychopath after psychopath after psychopath..

Yes situations like these are painful indeed, there are many Ukranian refugees here in the Northern Moravia.

Articles like this are quite telling
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/05/12/stalin-is-far-more-popular-with-russians-than-gorbachev-infographic/?sh=6b1497881663 (would advise the guy Im arguing with to read it)
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#244 » by DwayneSchintzus » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:16 pm

Hard to believe that this came out of the notoriously-lenient RUSSIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

She's lucky she isn't being sent to Siberia.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#245 » by ReddoverKobe » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:17 pm

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The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

There's not enough wheat in Kansas to construct that strawman you just built.


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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#246 » by thamadkant » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:19 pm

SNPA wrote:No one in any country should be in a cage over weed.



Lol

In your opinion sure.

But many countries don't want their citizens hooked on it so they have harsh penalties. Unfortunately rules are made for everyone because of the lowest denominator who will abuse and do damage with it. It's just how it is.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#247 » by infinite11285 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:24 pm

DwayneSchintzus wrote:Hard to believe that this came out of the notoriously-lenient RUSSIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

She's lucky she isn't being sent to Siberia.


Russian prosecutors pushed for a longer sentence. And when Griner told the court she was guilty and acknowledged her mistake, she said she hopes she doesn't spend the rest of her life behind bars. She knows Russia can easily find reasons to keep her far beyond nine years. It's just all so sad and **** up.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#248 » by NyKnicks1714 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:26 pm

thamadkant wrote:
SNPA wrote:No one in any country should be in a cage over weed.



Lol

In your opinion sure.

But many countries don't want their citizens hooked on it so they have harsh penalties. Unfortunately rules are made for everyone because of the lowest denominator who will abuse and do damage with it. It's just how it is.


I don't mean to single you out, because a lot of people are saying the same thing, but if you really believe that Brittney Griner is in jail right now because of a law put in place because Russia doesn't want its citizens hooked on weed, then you're incredibly naive. She's being used as a pawn and it's awful in so many ways.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#249 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:33 pm

thamadkant wrote:
SNPA wrote:No one in any country should be in a cage over weed.



Lol

In your opinion sure.

But many countries don't want their citizens hooked on it so they have harsh penalties. Unfortunately rules are made for everyone because of the lowest denominator who will abuse and do damage with it. It's just how it is.


Even if you make the leap to assume you can even be hooked on weed, cages are not how addicts should be treated. If you rob someone to feed your addiction, sure, cage.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#250 » by JimmyPlopper » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:34 pm

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Dzon Dilindzer wrote:or you could not commit a crime

what a concept, right


Surely there are some laws you disagree with and refuse to follow. Or do you respect every rule set before you, regardless of sensibility?

Come on man, you follow all the laws in a foreign country regardless of whether you agree with them or not.


lol I mean to each their own - that sounds like a very sad existence to me - to always defer to the authorities

if you have a little street smarts and keep your head on a swivel, you will usually be fine. no need to worry yourself
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#251 » by JimmyPlopper » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:35 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:I have flown in and out of countries like China, South Korea, Mexico with cartridge on me and never got caught.

Cool(?). Are you condoning her breaking rules, just saying you were lucky as hell not to be in a Chinese prison, or IDK?

This obviously isn't a black and white issue. Russia is mostly to blame but Griner obviously did herself no favors. She should've known the rules. Sure if she was Tom Brady, she would be home by now. If she was a random tourist, no one would even know she was locked up in a cell instead of being front page news with Biden being asked when she is getting home. That said, Biden/the US should work to get her out like every other citizen that is held as a political pawn.


I'm just saying what she did is very common. People are doing it right now in all sorts of countries and not getting caught. Either she was very bad at hiding it or (the more likely) that she was targeted and they used anything they could find to use her as a leverage point.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#252 » by pilkoids » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:35 pm

What's the prisoner-exchange equivalent of adding picks? 2 future Russian criminals being sent over with "protections"?
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#253 » by azcatz11 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:36 pm

She should be released but we have bigger problems for Biden to worry about...like sky high inflation. She made a very stupid decision and I hope she gets out soon but this isn't something we need to spend time on as a country IMO.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#254 » by JimmyPlopper » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:36 pm

I wonder how many people here would be devout followers of Droit du seigneur :lol:

"hey man - rules are rules!"

:banghead:

:lol:
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#255 » by Chronz » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:38 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
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WTF is wrong with some of you?

What did she ever do to deserve your hate?

I don't hate her, but she did feel like protesting the national anthem was correct, and that is just bound to piss off a lot of people. You can believe that hate is unjustified, but patriotism is one of the most volatile substances in society, and messing with it in any way angers a lot of people. Personally I think those people are going off the deep end a bit, but I get the concept behind it.

Honestly, I had a much bigger issue with the soccer players who kneeled for the anthem during the Olympics. At least Griner was just protesting it in a club league. But the soccer players chose to represent our country, yet also felt like they had to protest it as well. At that point, the real protest would be to not to represent our country.


The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

Thats like such a minute portion of the population. There are plenty who opposed both examples of protest, the summer of blm love was far more damaging to the country than any singular protest you could point to btw.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#256 » by davey_wavy » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:39 pm

Lots of attorneys and foreign legal experts in this thread
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#257 » by Salieri » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:40 pm

Chronz wrote:
ReddoverKobe wrote:
Nate505 wrote:I don't hate her, but she did feel like protesting the national anthem was correct, and that is just bound to piss off a lot of people. You can believe that hate is unjustified, but patriotism is one of the most volatile substances in society, and messing with it in any way angers a lot of people. Personally I think those people are going off the deep end a bit, but I get the concept behind it.

Honestly, I had a much bigger issue with the soccer players who kneeled for the anthem during the Olympics. At least Griner was just protesting it in a club league. But the soccer players chose to represent our country, yet also felt like they had to protest it as well. At that point, the real protest would be to not to represent our country.


The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

Thats like such a minute portion of the population. There are plenty who opposed both examples of protest, the summer of blm love was far more damaging to the country than any singular protest you could point to btw.


Stop quoting me to spew your fascist propaganda, please and thank you.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#258 » by Chronz » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:45 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:
og15 wrote:
TPA wrote:She has to get a nine year sentence because it's the only way you can begin to justify releasing a notorious arms dealer, nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" for a pothead WNBA player.
It's not everyday a unicorn come strolling into your country with drugs, as geopolitical stakes are redlining! Well played Russia!

As soon as there was mention of the prisoner swap, I thought to myself, 1) there's no way she's getting off, and 2) there's no way she's getting a light sentence that wouldn't be able to justify a swap.


Yep.

This isn’t a criminal case at this point. It’s a negotiation and Russia was always going to get into the best position for the negotiations.

It really does suck that a persons life and freedom is at issue with nonsense like this between the countries, but unfortunately that’s just the reality of the situation.


It's still a criminal offense guy. All could've been easily avoided, entirely on her
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#259 » by Chronz » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:45 pm

Salieri wrote:
Chronz wrote:
ReddoverKobe wrote:
The same people who had a problem with her protesting also have no problem with traitors storming the capital or republicans fist pumping after denying vets health care. Kindly get that nonsense out of here. And those people are not patriots.

Thats like such a minute portion of the population. There are plenty who opposed both examples of protest, the summer of blm love was far more damaging to the country than any singular protest you could point to btw.


Stop quoting me to spew your fascist propaganda, please and thank you.

You're another one of those guys that doesn't know what fascism means
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#260 » by JimmyPlopper » Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:48 pm

Decent number of boot lickers in this thread
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