Kenyon Martin: Carmelo Anthony Deserves Better Than A Rebuilding Knicks

method · Post #281 » by **method** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:59 pm

Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

Post #282 » by **GONYK** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:01 pm

method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

Clyde_Style · Post #283 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:03 pm

duetta wrote:I think this roster is shaping up to be a bit like the Denver rosters that Anthony thrived on.

Good point. I can see Phil watching Denver tapes and getting some of this off-season's ideas from that. Max catting is not superior to a balanced roster. Better defense and upping the tempo seem to have been harped upon going into SL, i.e. more fast breaks and easier looks. Benefits everyone, including Melo.

Carl_Karlson · Post #284 » by **Carl_Karlson** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:07 pm

GONYK wrote:
method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

Exactly. This is the problem with trading him because he has control over where he goes and we'd get f*cked in the deal

Clyde_Style · Post #285 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:16 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:
GONYK wrote:
method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

Exactly. This is the problem with trading him because he has control over where he goes and we'd get f*cked in the deal

Yes and that is why is probably better that Melo stay and play well on a rapidly improving team. He may actually have a better shot during his contract of contending than jumping around now anyway. As long as he allows young guns to assume leadership roles and he gets along with everyone, there is no good reason to trade him now since the odds of us getting any kind of usable assets is probably low. If there was a killer deal offered, you listen, but it is highly unlikely unless Melo absolutely kills it next season and looks healthier post-surgery. I expect Melo to play out his contract here, thus I want him to do well regardless of my prior opinion of him.

method · Post #286 » by **method** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:29 pm

GONYK wrote:
method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

They need a third team.If there a will theres a way.

Workforce250 · Post #287 » by **Workforce250** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:30 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
duetta wrote:I think this roster is shaping up to be a bit like the Denver rosters that Anthony thrived on.

Good point. I can see Phil watching Denver tapes and getting some of this off-season's ideas from that. Max catting is not superior to a balanced roster. Better defense and upping the tempo seem to have been harped upon going into SL, i.e. more fast breaks and easier looks. Benefits everyone, including Melo.

So Phil Mudafkn Jackson is now watching Denver Nuggets tapes? hahahahahahahaha.

Oh MY GOD, these guys on The RealGM are funnnyyyyyy.

Post #288 » by **GONYK** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:32 pm

method wrote:
GONYK wrote:
method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?
They need a third team.If there a will theres a way.

So if this big market contender trades assets to another team to get two top 10 picks and young prospects, how is it possible that they are still contenders after?

Workforce250 · Post #289 » by **Workforce250** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:
duetta wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Yes, the Knicks should have made Barnani the no.1 option...followed by Lance Thomas as the no.2 option...and somewhere down the line....maybe at option 6 or 7...that's where Anthony belongs.

I think they did that in the 2nd half of the season...and it wasn't pretty.

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YO Melo, my Dude. Don't worry we have Jackson sweeping all this garbage away.

Clyde_Style · Post #290 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:36 pm

Workforce250 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
duetta wrote:I think this roster is shaping up to be a bit like the Denver rosters that Anthony thrived on.

Good point. I can see Phil watching Denver tapes and getting some of this off-season's ideas from that. Max catting is not superior to a balanced roster. Better defense and upping the tempo seem to have been harped upon going into SL, i.e. more fast breaks and easier looks. Benefits everyone, including Melo.

So Phil Mudafkn Jackson is now watching Denver Nuggets tapes? hahahahahahahaha.

Oh MY GOD, these guys on The RealGM are funnnyyyyyy.

What's your problem? You're going to make dirtbag posts like this and expect anybody to give a crap about what you have to say when its your turn to post your essays on Melo critics?

Anyway, you laughing about the idea of Phil reviewing what worked with Melo in the past just shows how close-minded you really are. The joke's on you.

Clyde_Style · Post #291 » by **Clyde_Style** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:39 pm

GONYK wrote:
method wrote:
GONYK wrote:
What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?
They need a third team.If there a will theres a way.

So if this big market contender trades assets to another team to get two top 10 picks and young prospects, how is it possible that they are still contenders after?

You're right. If you're going to gut your team it is more likely to happen for a player in their prime. A deal for Melo now does not = deal for Melo in 2010. I don't see us getting a haul of 1st round draft picks.

method · Post #292 » by **method** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:44 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:
GONYK wrote:
method wrote:Trade him for no less then two top ten picks and a young prospects and a expiring.

What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

Exactly. This is the problem with trading him because he has control over where he goes and we'd get f*cked in the deal

If he waives his NTC its on and popping.But even like Phill said it really doesn't matter IF he did trade him it would be to a team he wants to go to anyway out of respect.

projectpaki · Post #293 » by **projectpaki** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:47 pm

Melo is not getting traded, everyone is aware of the cap and FA situation next year and are willing to play it out to see what happens. Let's move on from this trade melo talk.

Concrete Jungle · Post #294 » by **Concrete Jungle** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:50 pm

If Melo waives his NTC its because there's a deal that benefits him 1st, his new team 2nd and the Knicks 3rd. He might as well stay put, we aren't that far from contending in the East.

maleke1 · Post #295 » by **maleke1** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:21 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Naija Boy wrote:How can you guys be bashing Melo? Always thought the Knicks fanbase loved him? Even as a Raptors fan I respect the guy.

we did, then most started realizing that catering to 1 player isnt how you run a team.

That's my sentiment, 1 player doesnt make the team. Mello is a "Me first player and he's not a team guy. We should trade him now!

Post #296 » by **GONYK** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:29 pm

method wrote:
Carl_Karlson wrote:
GONYK wrote:
What big market contender has two top 10 picks, young prospects, and expirings?

Better yet, if they are contenders with all that, why trade it for Melo?

Exactly. This is the problem with trading him because he has control over where he goes and we'd get f*cked in the deal
If he waives his NTC its on and popping.But even like Phill said it really doesn't matter IF he did trade him it would be to a team he wants to go to anyway out of respect.

Melo will not waive it without discrimination. He will only waive it for a big market contender. He didn't do all this to end up in Charlotte.

johnnywishbone · Post #297 » by **johnnywishbone** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:59 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Melo for Beal, Porter and Nene.

Workforce250 · Post #298 » by **Workforce250** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:15 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Workforce250 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Good point. I can see Phil watching Denver tapes and getting some of this off-season's ideas from that. Max catting is not superior to a balanced roster. Better defense and upping the tempo seem to have been harped upon going into SL, i.e. more fast breaks and easier looks. Benefits everyone, including Melo.

So Phil Mudafkn Jackson is now watching Denver Nuggets tapes? hahahahahahahaha.

Oh MY GOD, these guys on The RealGM are funnnyyyyyy.

What's your problem? You're going to make dirtbag posts like this and expect anybody to give a crap about what you have to say when its your turn to post your essays on Melo critics?

Anyway, you laughing about the idea of Phil reviewing what worked with Melo in the past just shows how close-minded you really are. The joke's on you.

Really. Obviously you haven't been getting the vibe around MSG. The New York Knicks are about team ball, either you're in or out. Tex Winter redesigned the Triangle as may knwo and Jackson has applied it to win repeatedly.

So now, for whatever reason in your universe, Jackson and his team are studying Denver's playbook. The same Nuggets that almost won in the ABA league only to get beaten by a Dr. J lead New York Nets team.

Before I dismiss the class. Question, who gave you inside info that we're mimicking the Denver Nuggets?

Workforce250 · Post #299 » by **Workforce250** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:20 am

Ah I see, it's the Melo Hater's Only Club.

Funny tho, one of you has 15 posts.....lmao
I smell a troll invasion.

I'm out, it smells like sht up in here.

Concrete Jungle · Post #300 » by **Concrete Jungle** » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:25 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP8ILoXCJ74[/youtube]

this doesn't look like a selfish man, who alienates his teammates