Amnesty clause-sixerfan1976

sixerfan1976 · Post #31 » by **sixerfan1976** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:00 pm

Kwame actually ended the 2010-2011 season very well. he isnt a stud but we dont have the money to acquire a stud. He is better than Hawes in my opinion. HE isnt a true shot blocker.....but he is at least big and can rebound and takes up some space.

I am cool with the move if they get him.

I hope they move Iguodala for true 20 ppg SG...but not sure who they can get. I wouldnt dump him for a collection of role players tho.

We will see what happens.

Gsraider · Post #32 » by **Gsraider** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:20 pm

I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor I remember reading a little ways back that Hawes had hired a nutritionist and was in great shape. I would expect very little, but if he could add some quickness to an otherwise painfully slow game, it could be very helpful since he's probably the front funner to start again thanks to the lockout.

sixerfan1976 · Post #33 » by **sixerfan1976** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:23 pm

yeah hawes is a pick and pop type shooter...i think he is fine in small doses..20 minutes a game.......if someone gets stupid and offers him a ridiculous restricted contract..let him go..but one year tender at 4 mill is fine...unrestricted free agency next year..he would be gone.

thad is the guy u have to match no matter what in my opinion.

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #34 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:31 pm

Brand is the type of hard-working, grinding PF that Kwame Brown would need to be with. Brown, if paid properly, would be a solid addition.

Brown, and a Monta Ellis type to be a go-to, you never know.

Sixerfan, what is the market for Iguodala? I would think he would be a solid piece.

GS- Iguodala for Ellis. Iggy would be a very good compliment to Curry.

To the Suns for Carter, Lopez and a pick? Lopez would be a solid rotational 5 going forward and the pick would likely be solid in a deep 12 class. I would love to see Iggy with Nash.

Minny- they have cap room and young players. Iggy with Rubio, Love, etc could be 8th seed material.

ankle420breaker · Post #35 » by **ankle420breaker** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:49 pm

I'd be open to Iguodala/Ellis, but that's about the only Iguodala proposal I've heard that you can argue is worthwhile. We should explore every option, but should be in no rush to part with him.

As for Kwame, coming off a season that was considered one of his best campaigns in 8 seasons and only managing under 8 and 7 in 26 minutes.... I don't think he'd make much more of an impact than our younger bigs in Hawes, Speights, and Vucevic. You know what you're getting with Brown at this stage of his career, and its not going to be special enough to be a game changer.

sixerfan1976 · Post #36 » by **sixerfan1976** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:53 pm

no idea what the market is for iguodala. if they are going to try and trade him we should know soon.

Ellis deal i would do...even tho that dude dont play no defense.

I wouldnt mind someone like Kevin Martin, from the Rockets.

Post #37 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:41 pm

Even if you are a fan of Ellis (Which I'm not), two weeks of training camp isn't enough time to completely change the offensive philosophy to fit Ellis' game.

P2K · Post #38 » by **P2K** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:35 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Even if you are a fan of Ellis (Which I'm not), two weeks of training camp isn't enough time to completely change the offensive philosophy to fit Ellis' game.

They have an offensive philosophy? Color me surprised.

ankle420breaker · Post #39 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:21 pm

A name that I think deserves some consideration is Paul Millsap. Perhaps a deal surrounding Iguodala and Millsap/Hayward?

ankle420breaker · Post #40 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:22 pm

Dbl posto

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #41 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:37 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:A name that I think deserves some consideration is Paul Millsap. Perhaps a deal surrounding Iguodala and Millsap/Hayward?

I like that deal, even more if it involves an eventual Brand deal or amnesty. Utah is one of the teams I could see going for Iguodala.

ankle420breaker · Post #42 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:52 pm

Exactly. Utah needs a swing to put next to Harris, and with Kanter/Favors in town, they are probably making Millsap/Jefferson available. I wouldn't dismiss Utah as a dark horse trade partner.

76ciology · Post #43 » by **76ciology** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:06 pm

I'd do Okur's 10M expiring + Milsap for Iggy.

steveb21 · Post #44 » by **steveb21** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:53 pm

What about Iggy for Al Jefferson straight up? Works in the trade checker...

ankle420breaker · Post #45 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:53 pm

Al Jefferson is a straight-up black hole defensively. I'd definitely prefer Millsap.

76ciology · Post #46 » by **76ciology** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:16 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Al Jefferson is a straight-up black hole defensively. I'd definitely prefer Millsap.

I agree with this one. I'd prefer Milsap because he seems to be a better defensive player and rebounder.

And Okur's expiring contract is also pretty useful.

76ciology · Post #47 » by **76ciology** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:29 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Al Jefferson is a straight-up black hole defensively. I'd definitely prefer Millsap.

I agree with this one. I'd prefer Milsap because he seems to be a better defensive player and rebounder.

And Okur's expiring contract is also pretty useful.

ankle420breaker · Post #48 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:07 pm

Apparently, Hayward is considered an untouchable over in Utah (what is the world coming to?). The Millsap/Okur package might be more realistic.... not a bad deal for us.

Skates · Post #49 » by **Skates** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:52 pm

Much prefer Okur/Milsap over Jefferson.

Hayward? Not really interested anyway.

It will be interesting to see what the new regime does? A lot of the deals for guys like Milsap, Ellis, etc, still aren't going to get us out of mediocrity. First or second round playoff exit team at best. They might balance the personnel a little better, but to be contenders this team needs more than that unless Holiday and Turner make huge leaps forward this year. Will new ownership be patient enough to wait and see on that or do they try to make a big splash early on?

tgo2223 · Post #50 » by **tgo2223** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:54 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:A name that I think deserves some consideration is Paul Millsap. Perhaps a deal surrounding Iguodala and Millsap/Hayward?

I swear i was thinking about this trade earlier today lol. Id love to get milsap and amnesty brand