GMAT Winter Edition: Discussion

[MadNESS]

Thunder looking to make some moves. Oladipo, Adams, Ibaka are all on the block.

Turnermatt93@gmail.com

Sent you a few emails now - some are probably outdated - got a good one I think though that is fresh!

[Dan Verze]

We need approvals!!!

Where you at LOL I caught us all up with the help on my deals...

I need a ruling on a trade that is similar to previous ones.

Please advice - so I can move on - I don't care either way!

Thanks DV!

I live in a different time zone mate i was sleeping

[Dan Verze]

We have an alternative participant. Or is there anyone who is not happy with 2nd team?

Whats your email?

[MadNESS]

We need approvals!!!

Where you at LOL I caught us all up with the help on my deals...

I need a ruling on a trade that is similar to previous ones.

Please advice - so I can move on - I don't care either way!

Thanks DV!

I live in a different time zone mate i was sleeping

Absolutely unacceptable

[MadNESS]

Lakers update:

Depending on what DV says - Nick Young may be available - I want expirings' and a second. He is playing great this year (starting and with a real head coach - has figured it out). He would be a great scorer to any team, especially a playoff team.

The main thing is Lou Williams. Everyone wants him, but nobody wants to pony up. I will keep him, no problem. $7,000,000 for a perennial 6th man of the year candidate is cheap. I like the guy as well - he can absolutely light it up. Basically, I keep him and don't mind, or someone make me an offer that I can't refuse.

Lastly - I have David Lee for a minimum and a second to the first team to offer it. He will go quick and will be a great addition to playoff teams.

PG probably won't be traded until possibly next season. Kyrie can be dealt, but he won't be cheap. 24 year old star point guards with playoff (championship experience), who can do it all don't grow on trees. Plus he is locked in.

Let me know what you guys think. Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com

I value Liggins, Zubac, and Green more than you do, I am sure.

[Dan Verze]

Lakers update:

Depending on what DV says - Nick Young may be available - I want expirings' and a second. He is playing great this year (starting and with a real head coach - has figured it out). He would be a great scorer to any team, especially a playoff team.

The main thing is Lou Williams. Everyone wants him, but nobody wants to pony up. I will keep him, no problem. $7,000,000 for a perennial 6th man of the year candidate is cheap. I like the guy as well - he can absolutely light it up. Basically, I keep him and don't mind, or someone make me an offer that I can't refuse.

Lastly - I have David Lee for a minimum and a second to the first team to offer it. He will go quick and will be a great addition to playoff teams.

PG probably won't be traded until possibly next season. Kyrie can be dealt, but he won't be cheap. 24 year old star point guards with playoff (championship experience), who can do it all don't grow on trees. Plus he is locked in.

Let me know what you guys think. Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com

I value Liggins, Zubac, and Green more than you do, I am sure.

#39

there is an easy way to make this trade work with roster spots...

part 1:
Memphis out/Lakers in
Metta World Peace $1,000,000
Ray McCallum $1,000,000
Dakari Johnson $1,000,000
Jordan Crawford $1,000,000
Davis Bertans $543,471 $905,249 $1,250,626 (QO)
CHA 2018 2nd round pick

Total: $4,543,471 *1.25 = $5,679,339

Memphis in/Lakers out
Nick Young: $5,443,918 | | | $5,668,667 (PO)

Memphis accepts. Nick Young gives us another great wing scorer. Don't give up much besides a 2nd round pick.

part 2:

Some of the guys ness waives dont get waived by lal. He sends them to mem. Min contracts can be absorbed in seperate parts

[Tfence92]

Except memphis is considerably over the cap, so they would need to move all 5 together in one trade to be able to take on Young?

[Dan Verze]

Lakers update:

Depending on what DV says - Nick Young may be available - I want expirings' and a second. He is playing great this year (starting and with a real head coach - has figured it out). He would be a great scorer to any team, especially a playoff team.

The main thing is Lou Williams. Everyone wants him, but nobody wants to pony up. I will keep him, no problem. $7,000,000 for a perennial 6th man of the year candidate is cheap. I like the guy as well - he can absolutely light it up. Basically, I keep him and don't mind, or someone make me an offer that I can't refuse.

Lastly - I have David Lee for a minimum and a second to the first team to offer it. He will go quick and will be a great addition to playoff teams.

PG probably won't be traded until possibly next season. Kyrie can be dealt, but he won't be cheap. 24 year old star point guards with playoff (championship experience), who can do it all don't grow on trees. Plus he is locked in.

Let me know what you guys think. Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com

I value Liggins, Zubac, and Green more than you do, I am sure.

#39

there is an easy way to make this trade work with roster spots...

part 1:
Memphis out/Lakers in
Metta World Peace $1,000,000
Ray McCallum $1,000,000
Dakari Johnson $1,000,000
Jordan Crawford $1,000,000
Davis Bertans $543,471 $905,249 $1,250,626 (QO)
CHA 2018 2nd round pick

Total: $4,543,471 *1.25 = $5,679,339

Memphis in/Lakers out
Nick Young: $5,443,918 | | | $5,668,667 (PO)

Memphis accepts. Nick Young gives us another great wing scorer. Don't give up much besides a 2nd round pick.

part 2:

Some of the guys ness waives dont get waived by lal. He sends them to mem. Min contracts can be absorbed in seperate parts

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

[Tfence92]

Lakers update:

Depending on what DV says - Nick Young may be available - I want expirings' and a second. He is playing great this year (starting and with a real head coach - has figured it out). He would be a great scorer to any team, especially a playoff team.

The main thing is Lou Williams. Everyone wants him, but nobody wants to pony up. I will keep him, no problem. $7,000,000 for a perennial 6th man of the year candidate is cheap. I like the guy as well - he can absolutely light it up. Basically, I keep him and don't mind, or someone make me an offer that I can't refuse.

Lastly - I have David Lee for a minimum and a second to the first team to offer it. He will go quick and will be a great addition to playoff teams.

PG probably won't be traded until possibly next season. Kyrie can be dealt, but he won't be cheap. 24 year old star point guards with playoff (championship experience), who can do it all don't grow on trees. Plus he is locked in.

Let me know what you guys think. Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com

I value Liggins, Zubac, and Green more than you do, I am sure.

#39

there is an easy way to make this trade work with roster spots...

part 1:
Memphis out/Lakers in
Metta World Peace $1,000,000
Ray McCallum $1,000,000
Dakari Johnson $1,000,000
Jordan Crawford $1,000,000
Davis Bertans $543,471 $905,249 $1,250,626 (QO)
CHA 2018 2nd round pick

Total: $4,543,471 *1.25 = $5,679,339

Memphis in/Lakers out
Nick Young: $5,443,918 | | | $5,668,667 (PO)

Memphis accepts. Nick Young gives us another great wing scorer. Don't give up much besides a 2nd round pick.

part 2:

Some of the guys ness waives dont get waived by lal. He sends them to mem. Min contracts can be absorbed in seperate parts

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

LA is the team that has to cut players, and I believe they're at 15 before this trade, so they'd have to cut 4?

[BdeRegt]

Lakers update:

Depending on what DV says - Nick Young may be available - I want expirings' and a second. He is playing great this year (starting and with a real head coach - has figured it out). He would be a great scorer to any team, especially a playoff team.

The main thing is Lou Williams. Everyone wants him, but nobody wants to pony up. I will keep him, no problem. $7,000,000 for a perennial 6th man of the year candidate is cheap. I like the guy as well - he can absolutely light it up. Basically, I keep him and don't mind, or someone make me an offer that I can't refuse.

Lastly - I have David Lee for a minimum and a second to the first team to offer it. He will go quick and will be a great addition to playoff teams.

PG probably won't be traded until possibly next season. Kyrie can be dealt, but he won't be cheap. 24 year old star point guards with playoff (championship experience), who can do it all don't grow on trees. Plus he is locked in.

Let me know what you guys think. Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com

I value Liggins, Zubac, and Green more than you do, I am sure.

#39

there is an easy way to make this trade work with roster spots...

part 1:
Memphis out/Lakers in
Metta World Peace $1,000,000
Ray McCallum $1,000,000
Dakari Johnson $1,000,000
Jordan Crawford $1,000,000
Davis Bertans $543,471 $905,249 $1,250,626 (QO)
CHA 2018 2nd round pick

Total: $4,543,471 *1.25 = $5,679,339

Memphis in/Lakers out
Nick Young: $5,443,918 | | | $5,668,667 (PO)

Memphis accepts. Nick Young gives us another great wing scorer. Don't give up much besides a 2nd round pick.

part 2:

Some of the guys ness waives dont get waived by lal. He sends them to mem. Min contracts can be absorbed in seperate parts

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

[Tfence92]

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

There is no roster limit in the off-season, so we should be fine?

[Dan Verze]

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

In the past we played 12-15 players.

I showed you that there is a way to make this legal easily.


You do a 5 for 1 deal but LAL waives 4 players. You can just make it a 5 for 5 deal, üart 1 is the 5 for 1 deal and part 2 is a deal where mem takes on the contracts.

And mem can take on the contracts because teams can absorb min contracts without having capspace.

[Zion Wembanyama]

Tyler Ulis
Tim Frazier
Tyler Ennis
Dante Cunningham
Justin Holiday
Guillermo Hernangomez

OTB for a point guard and a rebounding, PF with some beef.

luness.dutchman@yandex.com

[BdeRegt]

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

There is no roster limit in the off-season, so we should be fine?

If we are assuming off season then most of the players who were just signed couldn't be traded if we are doing CBA rules. I don't really care that much about getting Nick Young and this is all for fun so I am fine with whatever decided are legal/illegal trades. We should just be consistent going forward.

[Dan Verze]

In a new rule I will allow going under 12 or over 15 in deals if players are IMMEDIATELY waived or signed for the deal.

It doesnt make sense to have a very long discussion about it. We all know that there are flaws. So trade works technacilly and I showed how. This is the case for every trade. With minor Tricks we can make them all work. Thats why they were approved and I will also approve this trade.

More important HAVE FUN and dont forget to update your roster lol

[BdeRegt]

We are actually playing with real life rules though. It was just a mistake that we didnt get the issue in the nyk trade.

But its so easy to make deals work by signing players (and being allowed to trade them without restrictions).

The max is a 4 for 1 deal (if you need players for a bigger contract) because of roster spots; if you are not between 12-15, then do seperate parts like I showed.

So guys please edit the trade and then MEM will have to waive at least one player and take the cap hit

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

In the past we played 12-15 players.

I showed you that there is a way to make this legal easily.


You do a 5 for 1 deal but LAL waives 4 players. You can just make it a 5 for 5 deal, üart 1 is the 5 for 1 deal and part 2 is a deal where mem takes on the contracts.

And mem can take on the contracts because teams can absorb min contracts without having capspace.

How is that different from LAL just waiving the guys like we have? It is the same exact thing rules wise. I say just cancel the trade. I am heading to bed and not really worried about.

[Tfence92]

In a new rule I will allow going under 12 or over 15 in deals if players are IMMEDIATELY waived or signed for the deal.

It doesnt make sense to have a very long discussion about it. We all know that there are flaws. So trade works technacilly and I showed how. This is the case for every trade. With minor Tricks we can make them all work. Thats why they were approved and I will also approve this trade.

More important HAVE FUN and dont forget to update your roster lol

Your way is actually legal through the cba (though somewhat sketchy) assuming the teams have cap space to do it lol

[Dan Verze]

I don't think there is a way to do this legally if we are playing roster size rules. Max people can do would be 3 for 1. 4 for 1 would be illegal. 13+3 = 16, 15-3 = 12 which would both be illegal.

I will point out that this means trades 22, 24, and 31 (another of mine) were all illegal.

In the past we played 12-15 players.

I showed you that there is a way to make this legal easily.


You do a 5 for 1 deal but LAL waives 4 players. You can just make it a 5 for 5 deal, üart 1 is the 5 for 1 deal and part 2 is a deal where mem takes on the contracts.

And mem can take on the contracts because teams can absorb min contracts without having capspace.

How is that different from LAL just waiving the guys like we have? It is the same exact thing rules wise. I say just cancel the trade. I am heading to bed and not really worried about.

I approved it. It is different because you would waive some and take the cap hit.

But there is a new rule. If you address the roster spots immediately like LAL did its fine. Not so important imo.

In the offseason there wont be roster issues

[Coxy]

Cavs looking to make a deal for a backup PG or solid wing man with JR Smith, John Henson, Mirza Teletovic and what ever picks are needed for the right player/s.

Hit me up people!

[MadNESS]

New Lakers update:

Looking for a third "piece" or to upgrade on Kyrie or PG (at any position).

As of now my core is Kyrie, PG, Green, Liggins, Zubac, Bertans and Powell. Yes I value all these guys.

Paul George: $18,314,532 | | | $19,508,958 | | | $20,703,384 (PO)
Kyrie Irving: $17,638,063 | | | $18,868,626 | | | $20,099,189 | | | $21,328,752 (PO)
Zach Randolph: $10,361,445 (expiring)
Jose Calderon: $7,708,427 (expiring)
Tarik Black: $6,191,000 | | | $6,655,325 (UNG) (expiring)
Patrick Patterson: $6,050,000 (expiring)
Jodie Meeks: $6,540,000 (expiring)
C.J. Watson: $5,000,000 | | | $5,000,000 (UNG) (expiring)
Mike Scott: $3,333,334 (expiring)
Marcelo Huertas: $1,500,000 | | | $1,567,500 (UNG) | | | $1,959,375 (QO) (expiring)
Ivica Zubac: $1,034,956 | | | $1,081,529 | | | $1,128,102 (UNG) | | | $1,410,128 (QO)
DeAndre Liggins: $1,015,696 (UNG) | | | $1,087,745 (TO)
JaMychal Green: $980,431 | | | $1,251,245 (QO)
Norman Powell: $874,636 | | | $1,014,746 (UNG) | | | $1,288,038 (QO)
Davis Bertans: $543,471 | | | $905,249 | | | $1,250,626 (QO)

TOR 2018 1ST
SAS 2018 2ND
CHA 2018 2ND
SAS 2019 2ND
POR 2019 2ND
LAL 2020 1ST
LAL 2021 2ND

Tanking teams - I will trade my "bad" expirings for your "good ones".

Willing to listen to anything, you know me.

I want to add picks or expirings or young players to add that "third piece".

I will take salary next year if it's worth it.

Let me know what you see.

Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com