Clyde_Style wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
This is grim. And in line with what I expected.
The Trumper who was bragging about herd immunity because of NY's decline didn't understand that a short-term decline in one region has been offset by other regions raging out of control. So, in effect, the South will now re-infect the North.
Compound that with flu season and it will become a forest fire.
Note how the doctor confirms Russian agit prop is pushing the no mask meme.
One prediction he makes is many of this anti-science faction of the American population will refuse to take covid vaccines. Think about that for a second. It could literally mean the vaccinated population will protect itself while the anti-science part of society will continue to get infected for years to come. Talk about thinning the herd. Fine, cull yourselves.
I will concede though that I will have great skepticism about any vaccine anouncements until Biden is in charge. Since everything Trump does is out of political self-interest, anything they try to promote this Fall to boost their vote count will be compromised decision making.
Plus, Giliead is getting sweetheart deal's from Trump to sell $1 doses for several thousand dollars each. Talk about wasting tax payer money and corruption.
Meanwhile, Oxford says they will give their vaccines away.
So, considering there are multiple possible cures that may have a different scientific basis for treating covid, I think we may have to hang back until 2021 before things settle and we can know what the right vaccine options are. Until then, Trump will fck everything up like he always does.
I probably should go back and double check this but, I as recall, the expert in the article said that the vaccine will (1) only control symptoms, and (2) may not prevent you from getting it again.
So the vaccine, at least at this early stage, is no panacea.
I have a friend in the neighborhood - we get our dogs together a lot and commiserate over the Orange Douche - and she’s NYC school teacher in Queens serving a special needs high school student population in a dilapidated building. Many to most of the children live in homes with grandparents. I have a feeling that sending kids back to school even here in NYC where the numbers are low.
OK, I guess there is going to be a lot to wait on re: Vaccine vs. Treatments.
There is still uncertainty over how anti-bodies behave, thus complicating testing and possibly formulating effective vaccination.
If there should be a scenario where there is never a true vaccine, but only improved treatments, that'd certainly suck. Then you're still dealing with whether or not you want to gamble with your health.
For the way this pandemic was handled I really regret Clinton was not in charge instead of Trump. We'd have something resembling a national plan and most likely a heavily flattened curve heading into flu season and the ability to contain it while working on a cure. And the economic fall-out would have been mitigated significantly without the massive job losses. So much about this is a tragic showcase for incompetent governance. No matter what, Clinton would have been massively better.
Agreed. I’ll never forget that election night as long as I live.






















