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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#381 » by WargamesX » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:57 pm

Why would the Pacers trade for Ayton when they have Myles Turner....
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#382 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:01 pm

WargamesX wrote:Why would the Pacers trade for Ayton when they have Myles Turner....

Turner is injury prone and only has 1 year left on his deal. Ayton would be a great piece to build around long term with Haliburton and Duarte.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#383 » by The Lamma » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:04 pm

You gotta feel good for Gary Payton II finally getting paid. He made around 250K last year and just over 2 mil for his career. Dude's been bouncing around forever but you can tell he's a hard worker and he's finally getting to cash in on his efforts. His defense made an impact last year fo sho
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#384 » by DOT » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:06 pm

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DOT wrote:Yeah, it's almost like moves aren't made in a vacuum, and a move that's good to make for one team would be stupid for another.


Right. That's why Brunson, who is younger and a better creator is a better move for the Knicks

Brunson's actually a week older

But for the rest of it, it kinda goes either way

Brunson cost less to acquire (I view the trading assets to dump contracts as part of the acquiring costs) than Mitchell would, is more of a PG, and is on a cheaper deal

But Mitchell is the better player

Also, my comment was about the Celts trading a first for Brogdon. They're just in a better spot to do so, plus it's very likely their pick is gonna be in the 20s, not 11 like we had or likely low teens if we traded a future pick for him.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#385 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:10 pm

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we've improved a little. But they are still banking on 2 things happening - Randle of 2020 and RJ becoming more efficient. Both are kind of long shots.

I think we'll sniff the top side of .500 baring injuries but that's play-in game territory.


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Post#386 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:12 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#387 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:12 pm

DOT wrote:
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DOT wrote:Yeah, it's almost like moves aren't made in a vacuum, and a move that's good to make for one team would be stupid for another.


Right. That's why Brunson, who is younger and a better creator is a better move for the Knicks

Brunson's actually a week older

But for the rest of it, it kinda goes either way

Brunson cost less to acquire (I view the trading assets to dump contracts as part of the acquiring costs) than Mitchell would, is more of a PG, and is on a cheaper deal

But Mitchell is the better player

Also, my comment was about the Celts trading a first for Brogdon. They're just in a better spot to do so, plus it's very likely their pick is gonna be in the 20s, not 11 like we had or likely low teens if we traded a future pick for him.


My point was Brunson vs Brogdan, where Brogdan is 4 or 5 years older.

I think Brunson hits a spot for the Knicks in not too many assets, was actually acquirable, younger than Brogdan, probably better, certainly provides a need on offense, will grant when Brogdan plays he's the better and more switchable defender
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#388 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:13 pm

WargamesX wrote:Why would the Pacers trade for Ayton when they have Myles Turner....

Turner's averages: 12.9 PPG 7.1 RPG 26 years old
Ayton's averages: 17.2 PPG 10.2 RPG 23 years old

it's a no brainer lol
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#389 » by DOT » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:16 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
DOT wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Right. That's why Brunson, who is younger and a better creator is a better move for the Knicks

Brunson's actually a week older

But for the rest of it, it kinda goes either way

Brunson cost less to acquire (I view the trading assets to dump contracts as part of the acquiring costs) than Mitchell would, is more of a PG, and is on a cheaper deal

But Mitchell is the better player

Also, my comment was about the Celts trading a first for Brogdon. They're just in a better spot to do so, plus it's very likely their pick is gonna be in the 20s, not 11 like we had or likely low teens if we traded a future pick for him.


My point was Brunson vs Brogdan, where Brogdan is 4 or 5 years older.

I think Brunson hits a spot for the Knicks in not too many assets, was actually acquirable, younger than Brogdan, probably better, certainly provides a need on offense, will grant when Brogdan plays he's the better and more switchable defender

Oh, oops. I don't know why I thought you were talking about Mitchell, I can't keep all these threads separate lol

Yeah, I'd rather we did what we did than trade for Brogdon. Brunson is better than him in most regards except like you say switchable defense.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#390 » by Oscirus » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:20 pm

Knicks could trade a second for Durant and they'd ve clowned around the league
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#391 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:21 pm

What are the Hawks doing. Gave away Huerter. What.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#392 » by Guano » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:22 pm

That Miles Bridges sht is **** tragic. Hope both of them get the support they need.

It's easy to hate on him through this sht because he is the villain. Idc if he plays again. I just cant imagine what he has been through to do something like that to someone he loves. Clearly shows the man has demons. I hope he suffers the consequences of his actions but also finds healing.
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Post#393 » by Guano » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:30 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#394 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:31 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
DOT wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Right. That's why Brunson, who is younger and a better creator is a better move for the Knicks

Brunson's actually a week older

But for the rest of it, it kinda goes either way

Brunson cost less to acquire (I view the trading assets to dump contracts as part of the acquiring costs) than Mitchell would, is more of a PG, and is on a cheaper deal

But Mitchell is the better player

Also, my comment was about the Celts trading a first for Brogdon. They're just in a better spot to do so, plus it's very likely their pick is gonna be in the 20s, not 11 like we had or likely low teens if we traded a future pick for him.


My point was Brunson vs Brogdan, where Brogdan is 4 or 5 years older.

I think Brunson hits a spot for the Knicks in not too many assets, was actually acquirable, younger than Brogdan, probably better, certainly provides a need on offense, will grant when Brogdan plays he's the better and more switchable defender

Both together actually would have worked well. I think Brogdon could have been had for Burks, Noel and protected future 1st. Knicks could have looked to move Fournier and Cam to free up the room for Brunson and still done the same things. Brunson-Brogdon-RJ-Randle-Mitch
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#395 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:34 pm

Polk377 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
DOT wrote:Brunson's actually a week older

But for the rest of it, it kinda goes either way

Brunson cost less to acquire (I view the trading assets to dump contracts as part of the acquiring costs) than Mitchell would, is more of a PG, and is on a cheaper deal

But Mitchell is the better player

Also, my comment was about the Celts trading a first for Brogdon. They're just in a better spot to do so, plus it's very likely their pick is gonna be in the 20s, not 11 like we had or likely low teens if we traded a future pick for him.


My point was Brunson vs Brogdan, where Brogdan is 4 or 5 years older.

I think Brunson hits a spot for the Knicks in not too many assets, was actually acquirable, younger than Brogdan, probably better, certainly provides a need on offense, will grant when Brogdan plays he's the better and more switchable defender

Both together actually would have worked well. I think Brogdon could have been had for Burks, Noel and protected future 1st. Knicks could have looked to move Fournier and Cam to free up the room for Brunson and still done the same things. Brunson-Brogdon-RJ-Randle-Mitch



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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#396 » by Polk377 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:36 pm

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My point was Brunson vs Brogdan, where Brogdan is 4 or 5 years older.

I think Brunson hits a spot for the Knicks in not too many assets, was actually acquirable, younger than Brogdan, probably better, certainly provides a need on offense, will grant when Brogdan plays he's the better and more switchable defender

Both together actually would have worked well. I think Brogdon could have been had for Burks, Noel and protected future 1st. Knicks could have looked to move Fournier and Cam to free up the room for Brunson and still done the same things. Brunson-Brogdon-RJ-Randle-Mitch



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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#397 » by Reign23 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:39 pm

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Post#398 » by Jay10 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:39 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#399 » by The Lamma » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:39 pm

So what's the purpose of being able to agree to deals now, but not actually sign them until the 6th?
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Post#400 » by Reign23 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 7:40 pm

holy hell what does that mean for Utah
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