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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#41 » by Green89 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:05 am

R9ndo wrote:I like the roster but dislike our front court. Losing Horford has hit me hard.


I'm actually more worried about PG depth. If we don't get a veteran backup, Smart has to come off the bench. That will leave the first unit as a pretty rough defensive unit.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#42 » by ZeroTolerance » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:13 am

Green89 wrote:
R9ndo wrote:I like the roster but dislike our front court. Losing Horford has hit me hard.


I'm actually more worried about PG depth. If we don't get a veteran backup, Smart has to come off the bench. That will leave the first unit as a pretty rough defensive unit.


That scenario of course was why Smart began starting alongside Kyrie in the first place...We were getting killed by the other team's first unit in the beginnings of games....
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#43 » by Green89 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:19 am

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Green89 wrote:
R9ndo wrote:I like the roster but dislike our front court. Losing Horford has hit me hard.


I'm actually more worried about PG depth. If we don't get a veteran backup, Smart has to come off the bench. That will leave the first unit as a pretty rough defensive unit.


That scenario of course was why Smart began starting alongside Kyrie in the first place...We were getting killed by the other team's first unit in the beginnings of games....


But then we had Rozier as a capable backup PG, even though he had a down season. Terry has more playoff games under his belt than Wannamaker's regular season games played. If Smart starts, we'll either have a rookie or Wannamaker and his 36 games of experience as the backup PG. Other team's second unit backcourts will destroy us.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#44 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 3:15 am

2019-20 Tentative Roster
Kemba - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter
Wanamaker - Smart - Ojeleye - Theis - R. Williams

Edwards - Langford - G. Williams - (Yabusele) - Poirier
Two-Ways = Strus; Waters (Fall)


I think that Wanamaker is our 2nd Unit PG, next to Smart. Smart's gonna run that Unit.
Not so sure that we go with 15 players, either.

We can have up to 4 Players, from the Training Camp Roster, become Affiliates on the Maine Red Claws.
I think that Ainge will have a healthy competition in Training Camp, and then decide.:

A. who makes the Regular 15-Man Roster.
B. Who gets the Two-Way Contracts. (Strus can still be waived.)
C. Who becomes Affiliates, up in Maine.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#45 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 3:38 am

Green89 wrote:
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Green89 wrote:
I'm actually more worried about PG depth. If we don't get a veteran backup, Smart has to come off the bench. That will leave the first unit as a pretty rough defensive unit.


That scenario of course was why Smart began starting alongside Kyrie in the first place...We were getting killed by the other team's first unit in the beginnings of games....


But then we had Rozier as a capable backup PG, even though he had a down season. Terry has more playoff games under his belt than Wannamaker's regular season games played. If Smart starts, we'll either have a rookie or Wannamaker and his 36 games of experience as the backup PG. Other team's second unit backcourts will destroy us.

Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#46 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 3:42 am

brackdan70 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
ZeroTolerance wrote:
That scenario of course was why Smart began starting alongside Kyrie in the first place...We were getting killed by the other team's first unit in the beginnings of games....


But then we had Rozier as a capable backup PG, even though he had a down season. Terry has more playoff games under his belt than Wannamaker's regular season games played. If Smart starts, we'll either have a rookie or Wannamaker and his 36 games of experience as the backup PG. Other team's second unit backcourts will destroy us.

Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.

I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#47 » by robdog_5 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 5:23 am

I like our top 6 but our bench is really unproven. We will really need some unproven players to step up. Ojeyle, Williams, Theis, Wannamaker, Timelord, Langford, Edwards, Porrier all have very little to zero exp in NBA. But some are going to be asked to carry load.

We will have to stay healthy too.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#48 » by ParticleMan » Wed Jul 3, 2019 7:24 am

brad is going to have to spend a good chunk of the season figuring out who among all our newbies can actually play, besides looking good in video highlights. we're going to lose some games because of that.

people are going to have to remember this is a reloading year. but i'm sure they won't, and we're going to hear a lot of fire brad and fire ainge.

i just hope we can add 3 reliable bench guys to our established top-6 come playoff time.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#49 » by 31to6 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 9:21 am

robdog_5 wrote:I like our top 6 but our bench is really unproven. We will really need some unproven players to step up. Ojeyle, Williams, Theis, Wannamaker, Timelord, Langford, Edwards, Porrier all have very little to zero exp in NBA. But some are going to be asked to carry load.

We will have to stay healthy too.


Last year we were better when a guy or two had a sprained ankle just to cull the shot-hungry herd, so rooting for good health will be a nice normalizing change of pace :)
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#50 » by flintsky21 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 9:42 am

I wonder how the minutes distribution would go. I don't think the Timelord will be seeing consistent PT (again) unless he shows out in training camp.

Kanter (26) / Porier (16) / Theis (6)
Tatum (30) / Theis (10) / Ojeleye (8)
Hayward (28) / Brown (10) / Langford (10)
Brown (20) / Smart (20) / Langford (8)
Walker (32) / Smart (8) / Wanamaker (8)
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Post#51 » by klemen4 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 10:10 am

On paper we will go 10 deep starting season imo:

Walker/smart
Brown/Wanamaker
Hayward/semi
Tatum/thies
Kanter/Williams

Of 3rd stringers Williams and Edward have biggest chance of getting minutes.

I think on C spot Poorer will get minutes if Williams did not improved since last season.

Langford will spent most time in Gleague.

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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#52 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jul 3, 2019 10:14 am

Useless Stats Time!

If this is the final roster...

Average Age: 24.63 years old (that would've been the 2nd youngest team behind the Knicks last season)
Average Years of NBA Experience: 2.87 (that would've been the team w/ least experience last season -- CHI at 3.13)
Average Height: 6 feet, 6.8 inches (that would've been the 5th shortest team last season)
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#53 » by Green89 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 11:26 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Useless Stats Time!

If this is the final roster...

Average Age: 24.63 years old (that would've been the 2nd youngest team behind the Knicks last season)
Average Years of NBA Experience: 2.87 (that would've been the team w/ least experience last season -- CHI at 3.13)
Average Height: 6 feet, 6.8 inches (that would've been the 5th shortest team last season)


That second stat is not good for a team expecting to make the playoffs.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#54 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 3, 2019 11:59 am

Parliament10 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
But then we had Rozier as a capable backup PG, even though he had a down season. Terry has more playoff games under his belt than Wannamaker's regular season games played. If Smart starts, we'll either have a rookie or Wannamaker and his 36 games of experience as the backup PG. Other team's second unit backcourts will destroy us.

Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.

I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.


With Al gone, I think they really need Hayward starting. He may also need it for confidence, but he also could well be one of the team's top two players next season, and benching him for Brown's ego and avarice would be unfortunate overcompensation for last season.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#55 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:01 pm

Green89 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Useless Stats Time!

If this is the final roster...

Average Age: 24.63 years old (that would've been the 2nd youngest team behind the Knicks last season)
Average Years of NBA Experience: 2.87 (that would've been the team w/ least experience last season -- CHI at 3.13)
Average Height: 6 feet, 6.8 inches (that would've been the 5th shortest team last season)


That second stat is not good for a team expecting to make the playoffs.


Yes, but it could be misleading in that three of the C's most experienced players racked up years of pro ball in Europe.

As I responded where Zoy posted this elsewhere, ship Waters to Maine and find a way to sign Vince Carter and all those stats change. But is the team really better off that way?
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#56 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:02 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
But then we had Rozier as a capable backup PG, even though he had a down season. Terry has more playoff games under his belt than Wannamaker's regular season games played. If Smart starts, we'll either have a rookie or Wannamaker and his 36 games of experience as the backup PG. Other team's second unit backcourts will destroy us.

Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.

I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.

I was think Hayward off the bench but yeah Brown should start.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#57 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:05 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
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brackdan70 wrote:Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.

I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.

I was think Hayward off the bench but yeah Brown should start.


As I suggested elsewhere, they maybe could start Brown, close with Smart, and rotate it so Smart is actually paired with Kemba more. And of course they are all going to get their 30 minutes anyway.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#58 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 12:15 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:ok so we've got our 15:

pgs: Walker/Edwards/Wanamaker/Waters
wings: Brown/Smart/Langford/Tatum/Hayward/Semi
bigs: Kanter/Theis/R Williams/G Williams/Poirier/Yabu

2-way: Fall

I'd like to think more moves are coming, but who could it possibly be at this point? Nobody is realistically available who would improve our roster.

According to reload Yabu is going to get cut

Good to hear that, I like Yabu, but not going to get any minutes here now that we have GWilliams.
Would rather use him as trade ballast to add a useful player but I am sure those avenues have been worked on.
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#59 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 3, 2019 1:11 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
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brackdan70 wrote:Both Kemba and Smart can start, You rotate smart out for Hayward, then when Kemba rests Smart comes back in. Not too hard to manage the minutes and keep a capable Ball handler and a secondary ball handler in the game.

I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.


With Al gone, I think they really need Hayward starting. He may also need it for confidence, but he also could well be one of the team's top two players next season, and benching him for Brown's ego and avarice would be unfortunate overcompensation for last season.

Oh yeah, definitely Hayward needs to Start.
The only thing that I'm concerned about is Tatum at the 4.

Kemba - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter


If we have to bring in another 4, then Tatum and Hayward move down, and Brown comes off the Bench.

Kemba - Hayward - Tatum - ????? - Kanter
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Re: Projected 2019-2020 Roster 

Post#60 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 3, 2019 1:22 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
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Parliament10 wrote:I think that we're probably better off Starting Brown.
Smart has no problem coming off the Bench.


With Al gone, I think they really need Hayward starting. He may also need it for confidence, but he also could well be one of the team's top two players next season, and benching him for Brown's ego and avarice would be unfortunate overcompensation for last season.

Oh yeah, definitely Hayward needs to Start.
The only thing that I'm concerned about is Tatum at the 4.

Kemba - Brown - Hayward - Tatum - Kanter


If we have to bring in another 4, then Tatum and Hayward move down, and Brown comes off the Bench.

Kemba - Hayward - Tatum - ????? - Kanter


Theis/GWilliams could be the 4 rotation if it comes to that. But pretty much impossible to get 30 minutes each for Brown, Tatum, Hayward and Smart that way. Hayward reportedly has trimmed down this offseason, so he should be less likely to get bumped to the 4. I think Tatum really needs to man up -- despite his plans to work out with Kobe again this summer. He could maybe get most of his minutes at the 4 against their opponents' 2nd stringer however, where the starting matchup is unfavorable for him.

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