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MAQ wrote:I think Avery's was quite transparent, especially as he goes on to say Devin Harris is a good fit for LBJ but not Rose.
MAQ wrote:PJ Brown wrote:Red Larrivee wrote:This whole MJ's Shadow argument is going to drive me to an early grave. How **** stupid can you be?
How much do you want to bet that Jalen is convinced that MJ's shadow was a huge factor in his own failure in Chicago? The dissing of the Bulls appeal by folks like Avery and Jalen is so utterly transparent.
I think Avery's was quite transparent, especially as he goes on to say Devin Harris is a good fit for LBJ but not Rose.
Jalen is a very truthful person though. I didn't take his comments to be a farce. They may not be accurate, but I do believe he means what he's saying.
i_killed_kenny wrote:Jalen Rose's twitter#nba(Bulls)Rose is legit but why would LBJ want to play in MJ shadow-Noah who dissed him & his hometown-Deng/Hinrich high salaries-no coach?
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Charles OakleyDon't kid yourself. Number 23 is as good as gone. And it has nothing to do with LeBron James announcing months ago that he was changing his uniform number from 23 to 6.
"Chicago or Miami," says Charles Oakley, the former Knicks power forward. "Not New York. He's leaving."
Oakley has become a friend/mentor to the NBA's two-time MVP over the last few years. They have an Ohio connection - Oakley owns a home in the Cleveland suburbs - as well as a world-famous connection. Oakley is best friends with James' idol, Michael Jordan.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... kidoo.html
Wade with a busted up Shaq and a bunch of decrepit veterans won a ring. Wade alone is worth every single player on your roster put together. The fact that when you compare your wonder core to a 2010 Miami team that was Wade and no one else, and Miami comes out on top, is proof enough of that. Miami has enough room and pieces to sign and trade for a third max player that is better than Rose. And if Wade and Lebron sign together, there will be a long line of players waiting to join the legendary dynasty Pat Riley is building.
Sorry, but when it comes to hypothetical situations there are none better than the above.
Ralphb07 wrote:Went to the Knicks board and it gave me a headache but I want to comment on this whole Michael Jordan thing. Yes Michael is the greatest but he hasn't played for us in like 12 years, the whole MJ shadow is blown out of proportion.
LA had Wilt and Kareem, two of the three greatest Centers ever(Russell definitely in there) and Shaq went there. Kobe has done well even though Magic played there
Boston had Bill Russell and Larry Bird, Pierce and KG seem to do well.
The first couple of years I see it being a issue but 12 years later, no I don't see it. So do you all think we'll never get a very good player because MJ was here?
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erlim wrote:MAQ wrote:I think Avery's was quite transparent, especially as he goes on to say Devin Harris is a good fit for LBJ but not Rose.
I think his level of personal bias is ridiculous. He said the Bulls with Lebron/Rose/Noah could not beat the Hawks with a re-upped Joe Johnson.
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ScottyKCMO wrote:Not to mention, LeBron would not be the clear cut leader in Miami, whereas he definitely would be in Chicago. Wade doesn't want or need LeBron to come in and be the team leader....whereas, Rose would LOVE for LeBron to come in and be the team leader. He looks up to him. In Miami, it would probably be close to a 50/50 split. If his "legacy" carries much weight in his decision (which I'm not saying it should or shouldn't), I don't think sharing the spotlight with Wade for the next 3 years is going to be a good thing. It is currently Wade's city, and Wade already has a championship there. For every title LeBron would win in Miami, Wade would also win one, meaning Wade always has one more ring than LeBron. And then what happens when Wade starts seriously losing a step. Does LeBron switch teams again? Chicago is the better long term place to be....and it can allow him to do everything he needs to cement his place in history. Everybody in Chicago has been waiting for another superduperstar to lead them to more championships. Nobody should expect him to be the next Jordan....that's impossible no matter how many titles he wins. We should just want him to be his own player and put us back on top.
I think the best scenario for both teams honestly would be for LeBron to go to Chicago, and Bosh + another nice FA to go to Miami. They could have a legendary rivalry in the East for the next handful of years, and LeBron and Wade would each get to carry the torch for their respective cities.
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kyrv wrote:akfanatic - Jalen is not really very sharp and it's often hard for me to believe he played for years in the NBA, many at a high level.
He thinks Brad Miller is a low post player.
Why would Lebron want to play in Chicago? Umm...because of the teams with cap space, they (along with the Clippers) have a great young roster that can be contenders?
Sorry you got traded. More sorry that you were dogging it.
I don't mind that Jalen has an opinion, but if he can't figure out why Lebron might want to go to Chicago - maybe he should follow, I don't know, the company he works for. His stupid question would be answered.
charity stripe wrote:kyrv wrote:akfanatic - Jalen is not really very sharp and it's often hard for me to believe he played for years in the NBA, many at a high level.
He thinks Brad Miller is a low post player.
Why would Lebron want to play in Chicago? Umm...because of the teams with cap space, they (along with the Clippers) have a great young roster that can be contenders?
Sorry you got traded. More sorry that you were dogging it.
I don't mind that Jalen has an opinion, but if he can't figure out why Lebron might want to go to Chicago - maybe he should follow, I don't know, the company he works for. His stupid question would be answered.
Are you Dan Bernstein?
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AKfanatic wrote:True. But you and I both know if Jalen and Oakley say the opposite he's seen as an idiot with that rare stroke of genius.
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kyrv wrote:AKfanatic wrote:True. But you and I both know if Jalen and Oakley say the opposite he's seen as an idiot with that rare stroke of genius.
Oakley is a boob also.
Jalen didn't say, "if I were Lebron, I would go here, or not go here". He can't figure out why Lebron would go to Chicago. Ask around Jalen. Well I guess that's what he is doing with his tweet. Hopefully someone can buy him a clue. And he assumes Lebron would be skeerd to play in "Jordan's shadow".
AKfanatic wrote:kyrv wrote:AKfanatic wrote:True. But you and I both know if Jalen and Oakley say the opposite he's seen as an idiot with that rare stroke of genius.
Oakley is a boob also.
Jalen didn't say, "if I were Lebron, I would go here, or not go here". He can't figure out why Lebron would go to Chicago. Ask around Jalen. Well I guess that's what he is doing with his tweet. Hopefully someone can buy him a clue. And he assumes Lebron would be skeerd to play in "Jordan's shadow".
To be fair i'm pretty sure Jalen also can't figue out why anyone would go to Michigan to follow in his shadow. My take on the whole shadow thing is the what would MJ say thread. He's just repeating what he hears and trying to take the opposite side of most the other ESPN guys lately. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to, not good for the network to keep up the LBJ free agency mystery if all their "experts" agree.
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kyrv wrote:akfanatic - Jalen is not really very sharp and it's often hard for me to believe he played for years in the NBA, many at a high level.
He thinks Brad Miller is a low post player.
Why would Lebron want to play in Chicago? Umm...because of the teams with cap space, they (along with the Clippers) have a great young roster that can be contenders?
Sorry you got traded. More sorry that you were dogging it.
I don't mind that Jalen has an opinion, but if he can't figure out why Lebron might want to go to Chicago - maybe he should follow, I don't know, the company he works for. His stupid question would be answered.
InsideInfo wrote:kyrv wrote:akfanatic - Jalen is not really very sharp and it's often hard for me to believe he played for years in the NBA, many at a high level.
He thinks Brad Miller is a low post player.
Why would Lebron want to play in Chicago? Umm...because of the teams with cap space, they (along with the Clippers) have a great young roster that can be contenders?
Sorry you got traded. More sorry that you were dogging it.
I don't mind that Jalen has an opinion, but if he can't figure out why Lebron might want to go to Chicago - maybe he should follow, I don't know, the company he works for. His stupid question would be answered.
I agree with all that. The Jalen Rose era didnt really end well in Chicago for him...Im sure he doesnt think highly of the bulls FO. From his POV I can see how he would say why would anyone want to play in Chicago, but he is clearly bias.
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