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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#421 » by Sark » Fri Oct 7, 2016 9:39 pm

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credibility, m8. c-r-e-d-i-b-i-l-i-t-y. that may not matter to you. but it speaks volumes in court, especially in a case where there's nothing proving that the plaintiff was raped/evidence incriminating the defendant.



And what of Rose's credibility? He doesn't even know what the meaning of the word "consent".

How does that make him not credible?



How would he know if he had consent if he doesn't even know what it is?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#422 » by Sark » Fri Oct 7, 2016 9:39 pm

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credibility, m8. c-r-e-d-i-b-i-l-i-t-y. that may not matter to you. but it speaks volumes in court, especially in a case where there's nothing proving that the plaintiff was raped/evidence incriminating the defendant.



And what of Rose's credibility? He doesn't even know what the meaning of the word "consent".


What? Rose being stupid doesn't have anything to do with the point that the woman has repeatedly contradicted herself



Stupidity is not an excuse for committing a crime.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#423 » by nykfan42 » Fri Oct 7, 2016 9:48 pm

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nykfan42 wrote:After reading those texts how can you believe anything this chick says? She may be a good actor but she was not raped. She wants a payout no matter how you slice it. She's asking for ectsacy and going to the sex toy store with another chick and she claims to be raped? She's obviously a sexual savage that doesn't deserve a dime because she wasn't raped at all. She just does drugs and gets wasted while looking for money from athletes.


Sexual savage made me lol

After reading those texts I could not think of any other way to describe this hoe.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#424 » by E-Balla » Fri Oct 7, 2016 9:52 pm

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And what of Rose's credibility? He doesn't even know what the meaning of the word "consent".

How does that make him not credible?



How would he know if he had consent if he doesn't even know what it is?

Are you serious? You can know the concept of something without knowing the word for it.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#425 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 7, 2016 9:56 pm

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And what of Rose's credibility? He doesn't even know what the meaning of the word "consent".


What? Rose being stupid doesn't have anything to do with the point that the woman has repeatedly contradicted herself



Stupidity is not an excuse for committing a crime.


You're all over the place and you're responding to people without any relevancy
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Post#426 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:16 pm

The jurors and court room officials have got to be getting a kick out this case.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#427 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:18 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:The jurors and court room officials have got to be getting a kick out this case.


Must be like watching an episode of Generally Dirty Hospital
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#428 » by Apples » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:20 pm

nykfan42 wrote:What's this chick look like? I know someone posted a picture of her with JR Smith. Where is it?


I'm not posting her picture but her name is apparently M/on/ica Lo/s/Ri/o/s. She supposedly deleted her Facebook page with all her pics but there are still a couple on the internet.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#429 » by trophywinner » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:23 pm

Read on Twitter


i'm assuming she's talking about rose saying in his depo that doe didn't hint at groupsex in texts (that's where the consent question came about), but now..

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i remember reading what was released of his depo, and wondering why he had said no...her texts could very well be interpreted as consent.

is this even a lie? proof is in texts. whereas doe literally fabricated and concocted a story about how she went to a sex store bought a toy and demanded to be refunded by rose. she was trying to con him.

juliamarsh has done a pretty poor job with details imo, tweets random stuff w no context.


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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#430 » by Sark » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:25 pm

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What? Rose being stupid doesn't have anything to do with the point that the woman has repeatedly contradicted herself



Stupidity is not an excuse for committing a crime.


You're all over the place and you're responding to people without any relevancy



No I'm not. I'm saying her relationships with other people, or her past sexual behavior does not mean that she gave consent on the night in question.
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Post#431 » by NY2TheBay » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:33 pm

I got a good laugh in about the toy that was "used" but she claimed at the time was new and wanted Rose to pay her for it. Asked why; she said she didnt want him to think she already owned one. lmao.

Getting a little ugly, though, as expected.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#432 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:36 pm

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Stupidity is not an excuse for committing a crime.


You're all over the place and you're responding to people without any relevancy



No I'm not. I'm saying her relationships with other people, or her past sexual behavior does not mean that she gave consent on the night in question.


Nothing excuses rape so that you even have to qualify that as anything other than a given seems pointless.

The point was she contradicts herself, yet you were saying Rose is stupid which is not relevant.

And the reason her past behavior becomes relevant and contradictory is when the prosecutors and her testimony attempt to portray her as the girl next door which she is not. She is an active substance user of booze and illegal drugs and maybe an abuser and she has been sexually involved with numerous NBA players. Playing the white picket fence card makes her and her lawyers sound stupid.

Better to be honest about being a partier and her sexual activity than to play the Oh I'm Just a Tender Flower that has been Defiled card. That does seem hypocritical and is totally relevant for its profound lack of sincerity and judgment.

It makes her sound false and calculating which is VERY MUCH THE POINT.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#433 » by NY2TheBay » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:40 pm

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nykfan42 wrote:What's this chick look like? I know someone posted a picture of her with JR Smith. Where is it?


I'm not posting her picture but her name is apparently Monica LosRios. She supposedly deleted her Facebook page with all her pics but there are still a couple on the internet.


A cutie. Based off the headshot I saw.

But...elbows probably too pointy, eyebrows too thick, eyes not perfectly symmetrical, big second toe..you know the internet judgement deal...wouldnt hit. :lol:
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#434 » by trophywinner » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:41 pm

rose's account has all of them having sex earlier in day too, doe can't seem to recall

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#435 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:44 pm

Does this mean when Brandon Jennings is blowing up it will be off-limits to say BJ is Unconscious?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#436 » by Swoosh_Stripes » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:47 pm

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Remembering something that could have been physically traumatic is not the same as remembering a conversation. The most basic human instinct is pain, so it is very likely that someone can be so drunk that they can't consent and still remember a traumatic physical experience.

Whether Rose raped her or not, I have no clue and neither do you or any other of the folks calling this girl all these bad names. By Rose's own account his actions are not exactly kosher, he does not seem to understand what it means to give consent. Also keep in mind that she is not exactly saying that Rose raped her and by all accounts she was alright with having sex with Rose, the basis of her argument is that she did not consent to have groupsex with Rose and his friends, that is supported with texts as well.


but, she is saying rose raped her, along with his friends. that's what this whole thing is over, rape.

rose's actions are that of any pro athlete/celebrity. nothing wrong, normal.

and show me the texts that support her claims that she did not consent to groupsex that night. from rose's and co defs accounts, they all had sex earlier that night too.


Texts from that night, we're limiting it to that now? How about the countless texts where she keeps stating that she's not comfortable with group sex and she only wants to be with him, I guess those don't matter.

As for Rose's actions being normal, please spare me, I know plenty of pro athletes, baseball to be exact (who are the most notorious cheaters in pro sports), not one of them has ever asked for a woman to let them run a train on them. But lets assume this is normal, when asked if she consented and you answer "she was coming to my place at 1AM she knew what was going to happen", that's a bad look and I doubt it plays well in a court.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#437 » by Smash3 » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:47 pm

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nykfan42 wrote:After reading those texts how can you believe anything this chick says? She may be a good actor but she was not raped. She wants a payout no matter how you slice it. She's asking for ectsacy and going to the sex toy store with another chick and she claims to be raped? She's obviously a sexual savage that doesn't deserve a dime because she wasn't raped at all. She just does drugs and gets wasted while looking for money from athletes.


Hooked up with nick young knowing that he was engaged or whatever to iggy azalea

http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/12/derrick-rose-nick-young-rape-case/

Rose's Jane Doe accuser claims she was traumatized by the alleged gang rape because she's "prudish" and sexually inexperienced. Rose's team says that's a big fat lie ... and they have a text referring to fellow NBA guard Nick Young to prove it.

According to docs obtained by TMZ Sports, the text was sent from Jane Doe to her roommate in November 2014. It says, "since u goin to nicks can u please tell him to give u my bra lol."



So because she hooked up with Nick Young, that means she consented to having Rose and his friend's run a train on her?


Yes. And also just because she hooked up with Nick, that means he must have also raped her?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#438 » by NY2TheBay » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:49 pm

CJackson wrote:Does this mean when Brandon Jennings is blowing up it will be off-limits to say BJ is Unconscious?


or rose caught bj for the the backdoor slam.

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#439 » by Swoosh_Stripes » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:52 pm

AmazingJason wrote:
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Hooked up with nick young knowing that he was engaged or whatever to iggy azalea

http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/12/derrick-rose-nick-young-rape-case/




So because she hooked up with Nick Young, that means she consented to having Rose and his friend's run a train on her?


No, but it certainly destroys whatever credibility she has.


In order to be a credible rape victim you have to be a virgin?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#440 » by trophywinner » Fri Oct 7, 2016 10:52 pm

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Texts from that night, we're limiting it to that now? How about the countless texts where she keeps stating that she's not comfortable with group sex and she only wants to be with him, I guess those don't matter.

As for Rose's actions being normal, please spare me, I know plenty of pro athletes, baseball to be exact (who are the most notorious cheaters in pro sports), not one of them has ever asked for a woman to let them run a train on them. But lets assume this is normal, when asked if she consented and you answer "she was coming to my place at 1AM she knew what was going to happen", that's a bad look and I doubt it plays well in a court.


yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with

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that can be interpreted as consent, at the very minimum open to group sex.


women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?

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