PG: Knicks unclutch fall to Magic, Randle and Divo miss crucial freethrows

[god shammgod]

i guess if duece can keep making shots he'll have some value but that's all they'll have left. i wouldn't trade a half eaten honey bun for precious, flynn or jericho sims.

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

[DaGawd]

evan is gonna write an award winning autobiography about his time here after he finally escapes his holding cell

[mpharris36]

i guess if duece can keep making shots he'll have some value but that's all they'll have left. i wouldn't trade a half eaten honey bun for precious, flynn or jericho sims.

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

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Kessler was just drafted though. So its pretty identical to the Gobert trade (vanderbilt was just a toss in) since we probably end up drafting the guys before the trade (or do our typical punt the picks for future assets).

CLE trade Lauri for Donovan...maybe that is why they are trying to acquire a decent player on the upswing now potentially to go along with those picks with the Fournier/Grimes package.

[Jalen Bluntson]

i guess if duece can keep making shots he'll have some value but that's all they'll have left. i wouldn't trade a half eaten honey bun for precious, flynn or jericho sims.

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

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like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Have you been paying any attention? Grimes makes 2.5 million next year. He's not getting us any star players. You combine him and Evan/filler/light pick package for DJM for example. Now we have salary AND a better player to trade for a star in the future. That's the logical plan behind this. This years picks will not be used for any star trades because none are available.

[mpharris36]

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

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like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Have you been paying any attention? Grimes makes 2.5 million next year. He's not getting us any star players. You combine him and Evan/filler/light pick package for DJM for example. Now we have salary AND a better player to trade for a star in the future. That's the logical plan behind this. This years picks will not be used for any star trades because none are available.

at this point DJM doesn't look realistic because ATL wants picks (seems like they aren't interested in protected picks). So that ship seems to have sailed with us trading IQ to TOR.

[Fat Kat]

evan is gonna write an award winning autobiography about his time here after he finally escapes his holding cell

If we don’t get a deal done, extend that bastard

[Deeeez Knicks]

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

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Kessler was just drafted though. So its pretty identical to the Gobert trade (vanderbilt was just a toss in) since we probably end up drafting the guys before the trade (or do our typical punt the picks for future assets).

CLE trade Lauri for Donovan...maybe that is why they are trying to acquire a decent player on the upswing now potentially to go along with those picks with the Fournier/Grimes package.

Spoiler:

[ezmoney707]

I mean while yes Grimes is young , if you flipped him for a player like Sexton or Rozier both have much more value around the league than Grimes as presented and could help this team in the now more than Grimes can as constructed.

I fully believe whatever type of deal they do at the deadline will signal their direction.

I still don’t think Randle is safe this offseason either, so there’s another trade piece as well, even if he struggles in the playoffs again he’s still valuable to a team as 2nd/3rd guy that will win you regular season games

[mpharris36]

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

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Kessler was just drafted though. So its pretty identical to the Gobert trade (vanderbilt was just a toss in) since we probably end up drafting the guys before the trade (or do our typical punt the picks for future assets).

CLE trade Lauri for Donovan...maybe that is why they are trying to acquire a decent player on the upswing now potentially to go along with those picks with the Fournier/Grimes package.

Spoiler:

[duetta]

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like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Have you been paying any attention? Grimes makes 2.5 million next year. He's not getting us any star players. You combine him and Evan/filler/light pick package for DJM for example. Now we have salary AND a better player to trade for a star in the future. That's the logical plan behind this. This years picks will not be used for any star trades because none are available.

at this point DJM doesn't look realistic because ATL wants picks (seems like they aren't interested in protected picks). So that ship seems to have sailed with us trading IQ to TOR.

Knicks pick this season will likely be around 20-25. So that is not a pick we should be too worried about surrendering in the right trade (especially with the Dallas pick likely to be in the same range).

Trading another one in two years is also likely not to represent a huge risk, assuming you are getting a long-term piece that takes your team to the next level.

Detroit will have roughly $60m in cap room next summer, so they are likely to throw big money at free agents. It is entirely possible that they will get significantly better next season (and thus that their pick conveys to us).

The question is: do you trust management to make these kinds of decisions? I am beginning to have my doubts.

[rajajackal]

Knicks got all of Brunson's sh*tty friends and couldn't get the best one. Oh well.

i'm a hart fan but i'm still mad we paid donte divincenzo and didn't extend quickley

Those two things have nothing to do with each other

we gave quick's money to the nova boys

[duetta]

i'm a hart fan but i'm still mad we paid donte divincenzo and didn't extend quickley

Those two things have nothing to do with each other

we gave quick's money to the nova boys

Absolutely true.

[mpharris36]

Have you been paying any attention? Grimes makes 2.5 million next year. He's not getting us any star players. You combine him and Evan/filler/light pick package for DJM for example. Now we have salary AND a better player to trade for a star in the future. That's the logical plan behind this. This years picks will not be used for any star trades because none are available.

at this point DJM doesn't look realistic because ATL wants picks (seems like they aren't interested in protected picks). So that ship seems to have sailed with us trading IQ to TOR.

Knicks pick this season will likely be around 20-25. So that is not a pick we should be too worried about surrendering in the right trade (especially with the Dallas pick likely to be in the same range).

Trading another one in two years is also likely not to represent a huge risk, assuming you are getting a long-term piece that takes your team to the next level.

Detroit will have roughly $60m in cap room next summer, so they are likely to throw big money at free agents. It is entirely possible that they will get significantly better next season (and thus that their pick conveys to us).

The question is: do you trust management to make these kinds of decisions? I am beginning to have my doubts.

the point is the team we are actually trade for a superstar wants those picks as well...

[Jalen Bluntson]

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like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Have you been paying any attention? Grimes makes 2.5 million next year. He's not getting us any star players. You combine him and Evan/filler/light pick package for DJM for example. Now we have salary AND a better player to trade for a star in the future. That's the logical plan behind this. This years picks will not be used for any star trades because none are available.

at this point DJM doesn't look realistic because ATL wants picks (seems like they aren't interested in protected picks). So that ship seems to have sailed with us trading IQ to TOR.

What star can we trade this years NYK/DAL picks for? None. So they are available right now. At least ours is. This is more likely posturing on our part to save as much as possible. It doesn't really matter though in regards to DJM because they can get a Brogdon or someone else with the same logic.

They have to flip Evan salary forward either way. That's the big picture here. They would be better served doing so paying a little more for a better player than he is. The window is closing and the trade market is slim pickings as it is.

[god shammgod]

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

'
Kessler was just drafted though. So its pretty identical to the Gobert trade (vanderbilt was just a toss in) since we probably end up drafting the guys before the trade (or do our typical punt the picks for future assets).

CLE trade Lauri for Donovan...maybe that is why they are trying to acquire a decent player on the upswing now potentially to go along with those picks with the Fournier/Grimes package.

gobert is kind of on the low end of star value though and everyone was still shocked at the package

i don't know that we can beat other offers with what we're doing. i guess we'll see.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Those two things have nothing to do with each other

we gave quick's money to the nova boys

Absolutely true.

We have Quicks money to Hart. Big mistake there.

[Deeeez Knicks]

i guess if duece can keep making shots he'll have some value but that's all they'll have left. i wouldn't trade a half eaten honey bun for precious, flynn or jericho sims.

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Harden to the Nets? Picks + LaVert.

[mpharris36]

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

'
Kessler was just drafted though. So its pretty identical to the Gobert trade (vanderbilt was just a toss in) since we probably end up drafting the guys before the trade (or do our typical punt the picks for future assets).

CLE trade Lauri for Donovan...maybe that is why they are trying to acquire a decent player on the upswing now potentially to go along with those picks with the Fournier/Grimes package.

gobert is kind of on the low end of star value though and everyone was still shocked at the package

i don't know that we can beat other offers with what we're doing. i guess we'll see.

It will all depend on Mitchell and how strongly he wants to come to the Knicks.

Embiid ins't coming
Luka isn't coming
Giannis isn't coming
Tatum isn't coming
SGA isn't coming

no Jokic or Curry...

so its going to be a secondary star regardless like Mitchell. And how Brunson and Mitchell combine get you over the hump.

[Jalen Bluntson]

at this point DJM doesn't look realistic because ATL wants picks (seems like they aren't interested in protected picks). So that ship seems to have sailed with us trading IQ to TOR.

Knicks pick this season will likely be around 20-25. So that is not a pick we should be too worried about surrendering in the right trade (especially with the Dallas pick likely to be in the same range).

Trading another one in two years is also likely not to represent a huge risk, assuming you are getting a long-term piece that takes your team to the next level.

Detroit will have roughly $60m in cap room next summer, so they are likely to throw big money at free agents. It is entirely possible that they will get significantly better next season (and thus that their pick conveys to us).

The question is: do you trust management to make these kinds of decisions? I am beginning to have my doubts.

the point is the team we are actually trade for a superstar wants those picks as well...

Saving assets we can afford to spend for a player who isn't even on the market is a dumb idea. We have three weeks to get a better trade asset with Evans salary. That won't come for free,

[god shammgod]

the deal for our star will likely be our 2 1st round picks in this draft...+ our unprotected to very lightly protected 2026+2028+2030 picks.

That is probably more interesting then Grimes anyway since someone since you lost 2 years of control on grimes and would have to pay him sooner then a pick in this upcoming draft.

like i said though, i can't remember a deal that looked like this. i guess gobert was mostly all picks but they did give up kessler. and vanderbilt was kind of young.

Harden to the Nets?

jarrett allen had a lot of value