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Post#521 » by juandavidgv » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:56 am

dakomish23 wrote:https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jump/id1106886477?mt=2&i=1000389806678

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The best part is Ohm's reaction to moron Knicks fans tweeting him begging for Melo to leave & calling him a cancer. His response was pretty much are you crazy. This organization is the cancer and has treated him like trash the last 6 months. Melo owes them nothing after all this.

They're right.

It's good to know logical people can see Melo for what he is and see this post apocalyptic wasteland of a franchise for what it is.

Thank you 100% on this.

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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#522 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:58 am

Rotten Apple wrote:I've retired from Melo debates. Everything has been said, there's nothing new to talk about at this point.

there hasn't been anything new to talk about in ages, people have been saying the same sh*t for months bringing up the usual talking points
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#523 » by xxrainnn » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:04 am

I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#524 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:04 am

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Rotten Apple wrote:I've retired from Melo debates. Everything has been said, there's nothing new to talk about at this point.

there hasn't been anything new to talk about in ages, people have been saying the same sh*t for months bringing up the usual talking points


The lying has gotten more grandiose.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#525 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:06 am

xxrainnn wrote:I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.


Even if he agreed to do it, why would you as a franchise do it? LFT is not the answer.

If they had a good prospect, that's a different story. Till then just run the normal squad as is and rebuild his trade value.
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Re: RE: Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#526 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:10 am

xxrainnn wrote:I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.

I don't think we'll do it, but we don't need his permission in the slightest if we wanted to bench him.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#527 » by K_ick_God » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:16 am

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xxrainnn wrote:I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.


Even if he agreed to do it, why would you as a franchise do it? LFT is not the answer.

If they had a good prospect, that's a different story. Till then just run the normal squad as is and rebuild his trade value.


Let's play Melo 40 minutes, suffer through another year of standing still* and getting wolloped, because we need to rebuild Melo's trade value ... which means trading Melo for a bad contract and top-15 protected pick.**

An idea that every Knicks fan with common sense should get behind or they're insane.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#528 » by whocares1 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:17 am

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xxrainnn wrote:I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.


Even if he agreed to do it, why would you as a franchise do it? LFT is not the answer.

If they had a good prospect, that's a different story. Till then just run the normal squad as is and rebuild his trade value.


They wouldn't start Lance they'd probably put Lee at the 3. It doesn't matter because Carmelo probably won't be a Knick once the season starts. He seems to have zero desire to even entertain the thought of coming back and I really don't blame him.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#529 » by Floozenheimen » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:18 am

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Never said otherwise. They need to work together to get a deal done.

You actually did. It's called a no trade clause, not a trade me where I want to go clause.

The Knicks are not obligated to engage in any trade talks, and very easily can just go about their business with building their young roster. What value does his no trade clause have then?

None, because he can't go anywhere he wants without the team making a deal.


To do that to a guy who went all out for the past few years and made the Knicks the most relevant they have been in years would be wrong. The only thing Memo has done wrong is play for bad management. Trade him and end this era without dragging him through the mud. He represented the Knicks we'll. Why make our new front office look bad by stringing Melo along


All out??????

This guy literally bucked any resistance to his style of play, which is pass him the ball and get of his way. He got a coach fired, forced a young popular PG out of town, got the president fired. Lets not forget the intial trade where he goaded Dolan into giving up the farm for him.

He hasn't taken a leadership role in the team, he barely participated in practice and his team D is abysmal.

I think he repped the Knicks horribly. He embodied the opposite of what we fans cherrish. Hard workers who play stellar defense who give their all every night. He's a lazy fat whiney premadonna who doesn't share the spotlight and doesn't adapt his game for the team. He deserves nothing but a kick me sign stapled to his fat ass.
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Re: RE: Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#530 » by juandavidgv » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:22 am

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dakomish23 wrote:https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jump/id1106886477?mt=2&i=1000389806678

A rational podcast from rational media members.

The best part is Ohm's reaction to moron Knicks fans tweeting him begging for Melo to leave & calling him a cancer. His response was pretty much are you crazy. This organization is the cancer and has treated him like trash the last 6 months. Melo owes them nothing after all this.

They're right.

It's good to know logical people can see Melo for what he is and see this post apocalyptic wasteland of a franchise for what it is.



Did anyone bring up Melo running coaches and players off and not trying to change his game to fit what the coaches wanted to run? Or anything about the only teams Melo will accept a trade to are teams that have nothing to give us in a return?? Or was it only that Phil publicly said the ball stops when Melo gets it?? What else did Melo have to go through besides Phil saying that and openly saying he'd be better off on a team he can have a chance to win with??


You mean did they bring up

a coach (singular) quitting?

A player not suiting up for the playoffs so he can get paid?

A player asked to run an antiquated system that almost nobody else wanted to run since it didn't fit the personnel, even though he ran it the year before and didn't say a word?

Nope. They didn't mention that.

Here's what they mentioned:

A list of teams that he would choose to waive his NTC for, something the Knicks gave to him, who will be contenders, after spending years watching this crap franchise spiral into irrelevance.

The 6+ months of bashing in public without anything but a professional response from Melo.

How terribly run this franchise has been outside the 3 years when we first traded for Melo

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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#532 » by Sark » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:25 am

god shammgod wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Every Melo Thread


Melo's a team killing cancer


No he's not, it's the FO's fault for not surrounding him with good talent


He's an inefficient chucker who could never have won a ring being the best player on a team


He shouldn't've forced a trade here


The FO didn't have to trade for him, they could've signed him in the offseason


Melo ran Lin/D'Antoni out of town


Re-posts article of Stat talking about Melo/Lin/D'Antoni


He's all about the money


He's about loyalty


We should Starbury him


If Melo's still here at the start of next season I'm done




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it really is madness. we should probably ban anyone who talks about him after he's gone. on a related note, i'm hoping that every single person that posts here talks about him.



It would be a good idea if we did that for Phil Jackson talk as well.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#533 » by Handledatruth » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:28 am

Floozenheimen wrote:
boomann21 wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:You actually did. It's called a no trade clause, not a trade me where I want to go clause.

The Knicks are not obligated to engage in any trade talks, and very easily can just go about their business with building their young roster. What value does his no trade clause have then?

None, because he can't go anywhere he wants without the team making a deal.


To do that to a guy who went all out for the past few years and made the Knicks the most relevant they have been in years would be wrong. The only thing Memo has done wrong is play for bad management. Trade him and end this era without dragging him through the mud. He represented the Knicks we'll. Why make our new front office look bad by stringing Melo along


All out??????

This guy literally bucked any resistance to his style of play, which is pass him the ball and get of his way. He got a coach fired, forced a young popular PG out of town, got the president fired. Lets not forget the intial trade where he goaded Dolan into giving up the farm for him.

He hasn't taken a leadership role in the team, he barely participated in practice and his team D is abysmal.

I think he repped the Knicks horribly. He embodied the opposite of what we fans cherrish. Hard workers who play stellar defense who give their all every night. He's a lazy fat whiney premadonna who doesn't share the spotlight and doesn't adapt his game for the team. He deserves nothing but a kick me sign stapled to his fat ass.


The accuracy :lol: :lol:

K-DOT wrote:Every Melo Thread


Melo's a team killing cancer


No he's not, it's the FO's fault for not surrounding him with good talent


He's an inefficient chucker who could never have won a ring being the best player on a team


He shouldn't've forced a trade here


The FO didn't have to trade for him, they could've signed him in the offseason


Melo ran Lin/D'Antoni out of town


Re-posts article of Stat talking about Melo/Lin/D'Antoni


He's all about the money


He's about loyalty


We should Starbury him


If Melo's still here at the start of next season I'm done




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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#534 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:29 am

you guys always make this so personal. melo was a very good player. he got older and the knicks are rebuilding. the knicks want him to go and he would finally like to go now to. they just can't find a trade that works. the end.
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Post#535 » by Handledatruth » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:31 am

god shammgod wrote:you guys always make this so personal. melo was a very good player. he got older and the knicks are rebuilding. the knicks want him to go and he would finally like to go now to. they just can't find a trade that works. the end.


It can't be that simple. Not in this fan base.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#536 » by Jeffrey » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:33 am

Coming off the bench?! I don't see that happening and Melo is too good to come off the bench.

I do believe that he will be traded before the season or training camp starts. No way the Knicks will want a media **** about when Melo being traded. I will be something like the Denver days before he traded but 100x worst.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#537 » by whocares1 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:34 am

Im not sure why the Knicks expect to get assets and cap space in this trade. I thought people wanted to take on bad contracts for assets and here we are not doing it.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#538 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:37 am

Handledatruth wrote:
god shammgod wrote:you guys always make this so personal. melo was a very good player. he got older and the knicks are rebuilding. the knicks want him to go and he would finally like to go now to. they just can't find a trade that works. the end.


It can't be that simple. Not in this fan base.

I don't know if you can call a group of people who I'm sure of haven't watched many full games in the last few years, cheer for the team to lose every year for a lottery ticket and hate on every move they make a "fan base"........
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Post#539 » by Handledatruth » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:41 am

Polk377 wrote:
Handledatruth wrote:
god shammgod wrote:you guys always make this so personal. melo was a very good player. he got older and the knicks are rebuilding. the knicks want him to go and he would finally like to go now to. they just can't find a trade that works. the end.


It can't be that simple. Not in this fan base.

I don't know if you can call a group of people who I'm sure of haven't watched many full games in the last few years, cheer for the team to lose every year for a lottery ticket and hate on every move they make a "fan base"........


I'll admit I haven't watched as many full games as I could have, but that is just because I hate bad defense :lol:. Agreed on our fan base being extremely bitter these days.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread - Sorry Melo, these are the breaks 

Post#540 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:42 am

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xxrainnn wrote:I find it funny that people are really suggesting we tell Melo to come off the bench. 0% chance he would agree to doing so, let's be real.


Even if he agreed to do it, why would you as a franchise do it? LFT is not the answer.

If they had a good prospect, that's a different story. Till then just run the normal squad as is and rebuild his trade value.


Let's play Melo 40 minutes, suffer through another year of standing still* and getting wolloped, because we need to rebuild Melo's trade value ... which means trading Melo for a bad contract and top-15 protected pick.**

An idea that every Knicks fan with common sense should get behind or they're insane.
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Rebuild the value and your leverage. That's logical. I didn't say play him 40 minutes. I didn't say try to make the playoffs.

You are so desperate to get rid of Melo that you do not care if the trade puts us in a worse position. Those type of transactions are part of the reason we are where we are right now.

You said you'd be fine to pay him to stay home.

That's going to net you a better return?

Then you talk about common sense?

Cmon man.
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