HeatFanLifer wrote:ZoStrong wrote:HeatFanLifer wrote:
If someone applies for a visa to a country, it is reasonable to assume the person should like the country. Not just some of its things. You are not implying that I think every person here on a visa hates this country are youu?
Foreign students apply for student visa mostly because they love the university, not the entire country. This is seriously a weird take. No country is perfect. Corruptions everywhere. Where's the freedom of the speech to criticize social wrongs?
I doubt they would come here if they so hate the country. Think about it, these are teenagers. A teenager me would never go to a university in a country I cannot stand no matter how much I love the university. And I think most of these kids are the same. It's just they live in a social media age where everything they say will be recorded. You never complained about your city and country, or other countries? I say bad things about China all the time, but I do wanna visit someday. I like the food n culture. Some parts I really don't like
It’s not weird. You just don’t understand the idea of a country. Almost every other country in the world would not allow a person into the country if the person does not like the country. It’s been a uniquely post-modern Western idea to allow people into the country that actively promote overthrowing the government and it’s not beneficial.
At this point I think we need to end this discussion. Your take on what I am saying is biased to your own line of thought and is not in line with most anything I think. I am not advocating to end visas and you continue to drive home a point like I am saying to do that. Unfortunately, until you stop assuming what my point is I don’t see a way to have a constructive conversation with you.
Wow, bud, you haven't been outside the States, huh? If you can tell, I'm quite opinionated. My Twitter feeds will block me from every country in the world if what you saying is true, lol
It's fine if you love your country. Just calling out police corruption, deteriorating local school systems, widening income gap, etc.. doesn't make me an enemy of the country. In fact, I LOVE her so much, I want her to improve for my kids n grandkids. It's my passion speaking. Imagine if me complaining about the local police department bans my daughter to go to college! You really want that authoritarian govt? Where we gotta watch out for every word coming out of our mouths?
And if a particular foreign student is suspicious, we got agencies that can do background checks. And I'm fine w the Govt double checking possibly dangerous individuals, citizen or foreign students. We got enough of school shootings already. Another topic I talk a lot about, lol