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thebuzzardman wrote:This team is soft. They'll let Draymond and Butler talk sh*t to them all day and all night.
G_K_F wrote:knicks94 wrote:Due to being one of the toughest players in the NBA I believe Draymond would have fit in perfectly with the 80's Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and Knicks.
What?
Draymond Green is one of the 'toughest' players in a soft era.
He wouldn't and couldn't pull those antics in the 80's or 90's, He would have his head kicked in.
Clyde_Style wrote:KnicksGod wrote:It's not that rare for a team to lose its best player and play a more enjoyable style of basketball. You need stars in the NBA but it also makes the game less fun to watch. And it's not simply because the team is "scrappier" or whatever euphemism people use.
I'll keep watching personally but if the quality of a game has an inverse relationship to the presence of its best players, then I think that's a major, major red flag. And it's not rare.
Guys like LeBron break that pattern, because he's not a guy who demanded being a top scorer. Or a Magic. Even Phil implemented the triangle to keep all the guys involved. That seems to be a thing of the past.
Not sure where to stick this so I put it here with JB out. There is something to this and I think it's a huge problem.
It's primarily a coaching issue even if an adjusted JB is still a shoot first guard.
There were several games in a row this season when the team clicked offensively while Brunson was racking up double digit assists which he does not typically do as a guy who averages 6-7 assists.
It was in those games he displayed some excellent dimes we had not seen that much from before and it gave me hope this was his evolutionary step as a playmaker. But it was followed by a hot streak and big scoring games and because Thibs just defaults to a guy like Brunson to initiate the action we switched back to playing primarily off Brunson instead of each other.
Point is Brunson can adapt, but not without leadership, because Brunson is not a legendary decision maker. He's just an amazing one on one player and as clutch a SOB as you could ever hope for.
You do not win championships just running ISO plays, but you do need guys who can make their own points for you when needed. Brunson is a great offensive player. He needs a better coach to guide him to become a more well-rounded point guard.
RIP magsprophet_of_rage wrote:1 poor defender versus 2.dakomish23 wrote:K. Towns - O. Anunoby - J. Hart - M. Bridges - M. McBride
17 G
107 mins
112.3 ORTG
103.6 DRTG
8.7 NRTG
K. Towns - O. Anunoby - J. Hart - M. Bridges - J. Brunson
46 G
885 mins
117.3 ORTG
114.2 DRTG
3.1 NRTG
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:KnicksGod wrote:It's not that rare for a team to lose its best player and play a more enjoyable style of basketball. You need stars in the NBA but it also makes the game less fun to watch. And it's not simply because the team is "scrappier" or whatever euphemism people use.
I'll keep watching personally but if the quality of a game has an inverse relationship to the presence of its best players, then I think that's a major, major red flag. And it's not rare.
Guys like LeBron break that pattern, because he's not a guy who demanded being a top scorer. Or a Magic. Even Phil implemented the triangle to keep all the guys involved. That seems to be a thing of the past.
Not sure where to stick this so I put it here with JB out. There is something to this and I think it's a huge problem.
It's primarily a coaching issue even if an adjusted JB is still a shoot first guard.
There were several games in a row this season when the team clicked offensively while Brunson was racking up double digit assists which he does not typically do as a guy who averages 6-7 assists.
It was in those games he displayed some excellent dimes we had not seen that much from before and it gave me hope this was his evolutionary step as a playmaker. But it was followed by a hot streak and big scoring games and because Thibs just defaults to a guy like Brunson to initiate the action we switched back to playing primarily off Brunson instead of each other.
Point is Brunson can adapt, but not without leadership, because Brunson is not a legendary decision maker. He's just an amazing one on one player and as clutch a SOB as you could ever hope for.
You do not win championships just running ISO plays, but you do need guys who can make their own points for you when needed. Brunson is a great offensive player. He needs a better coach to guide him to become a more well-rounded point guard.
The dude is #8 in the entire league in assists (7.4), while running a freelance offense. It's what he is being asked to do. Not because he is limited as a PG. It's what Thibs wants from his PG. Dude drops 30-40 with 7-10 assists and people say he's a selfish player. Imagine if there was some structure to the offense and he was setting people up where they are most efficient/effective getting their shots. His assists would probably go up.
Every player has flaws. His happens to be his height. He makes the most of it though. Weak defender and struggles seeing over the defense as a result. He still can't be stopped most nights and still gets plenty of assists most nights. The best Knicks PG since Clyde hands down. One of the best PGs in the league. The slander will not be tolerated!!!
MrDollarBills wrote:G_K_F wrote:knicks94 wrote:Due to being one of the toughest players in the NBA I believe Draymond would have fit in perfectly with the 80's Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and Knicks.
What?
Draymond Green is one of the 'toughest' players in a soft era.
He wouldn't and couldn't pull those antics in the 80's or 90's, He would have his head kicked in.
I cannot fathom any of Draymond's sh*t flying in the 80s/90s. Dudes used to want to kill Dennis Rodman, and I think Draymond is actually 100x worse.
MrDollarBills wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:This team is soft. They'll let Draymond and Butler talk sh*t to them all day and all night.
They'd better not be.
This isn't just some throwaway game. Green disrespected Karl. The whole squad should be looking to bury GS tonight Brunson be damned.
This is where a night where PJ Tucker needs to get some minutes.
RIP magsMrDollarBills wrote:G_K_F wrote:knicks94 wrote:Due to being one of the toughest players in the NBA I believe Draymond would have fit in perfectly with the 80's Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and Knicks.
What?
Draymond Green is one of the 'toughest' players in a soft era.
He wouldn't and couldn't pull those antics in the 80's or 90's, He would have his head kicked in.
I cannot fathom any of Draymond's sh*t flying in the 80s/90s. Dudes used to want to kill Dennis Rodman, and I think Draymond is actually 100x worse.
The KnicksFix wrote:KAT better send draymond to the shadow realm with an uppercut
_______ M U C K A_________ ** GO NY GO NY GO NY GO! ** 
But they didn't and Green is bigger and crazier. Flint water be the colour of cognac, people and that's what they drink on the regular.MrDollarBills wrote:G_K_F wrote:knicks94 wrote:Due to being one of the toughest players in the NBA I believe Draymond would have fit in perfectly with the 80's Pistons, Celtics, Lakers and Knicks.
What?
Draymond Green is one of the 'toughest' players in a soft era.
He wouldn't and couldn't pull those antics in the 80's or 90's, He would have his head kicked in.
I cannot fathom any of Draymond's sh*t flying in the 80s/90s. Dudes used to want to kill Dennis Rodman, and I think Draymond is actually 100x worse.
MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g
My age shows with all this pod sht. I'm not a fan of it. Not that they can't have opinions cause they're athletes I just think people over share and talk too much.
/stops shaking cane
I agree with you.
I like Melo's podcast because he's a former player giving us his perspective of stuff. Like when he recounts stories of playing against certain guys, or how he felt being in the same room as the top 75, that's really good stuff. Kevin Garnett's stories are absolutely hilarious and borderline psychotic. I think that stuff is great. I don't think every old head needs a podcast, but there are a few who are worth a listen.
When it's current NBA players, I think it leaves too much room for awkwardness when things go wrong (see Paul George) or opens up the floor to people being loud, dumb, and wrong (see Draymond) and harming their image or the team's image. Like dude couldn't just man up and say that he was wrong, he just doubled down. I'd never want to listen to anything else he has to say after that.
I hope Karl drops a 50 banger on his head tonight
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
They're college roommates shooting the ish. Jalen usually insults and makes fun of Josh and Josh makes fun of himself. They have decent guests and teammates. Nothing really controversial. They take their hangs out of the club and into the podcast.Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:
My age shows with all this pod sht. I'm not a fan of it. Not that they can't have opinions cause they're athletes I just think people over share and talk too much.
/stops shaking cane
I agree with you.
I like Melo's podcast because he's a former player giving us his perspective of stuff. Like when he recounts stories of playing against certain guys, or how he felt being in the same room as the top 75, that's really good stuff. Kevin Garnett's stories are absolutely hilarious and borderline psychotic. I think that stuff is great. I don't think every old head needs a podcast, but there are a few who are worth a listen.
When it's current NBA players, I think it leaves too much room for awkwardness when things go wrong (see Paul George) or opens up the floor to people being loud, dumb, and wrong (see Draymond) and harming their image or the team's image. Like dude couldn't just man up and say that he was wrong, he just doubled down. I'd never want to listen to anything else he has to say after that.
I hope Karl drops a 50 banger on his head tonight
You're right i dont have a problem with the old heads doing it. I find Teague's stories hilarious. Though ngl, I just see the clips here and there. I've never listened to his whole pod.
There is something about brunsons and jHarts pod that really bugs me. Like I don't think they're locked in enough which is silly of me to think. Or maybe its i want to root for em and worried access might make me not like em. Fck idk. Either way I never listened to it and refuse to watch clips of it.
All this to sound like a damn, "shut up and dribble" guy. I'm the worst
Fat Kat wrote:
Guano wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Guano wrote:
My age shows with all this pod sht. I'm not a fan of it. Not that they can't have opinions cause they're athletes I just think people over share and talk too much.
/stops shaking cane
I agree with you.
I like Melo's podcast because he's a former player giving us his perspective of stuff. Like when he recounts stories of playing against certain guys, or how he felt being in the same room as the top 75, that's really good stuff. Kevin Garnett's stories are absolutely hilarious and borderline psychotic. I think that stuff is great. I don't think every old head needs a podcast, but there are a few who are worth a listen.
When it's current NBA players, I think it leaves too much room for awkwardness when things go wrong (see Paul George) or opens up the floor to people being loud, dumb, and wrong (see Draymond) and harming their image or the team's image. Like dude couldn't just man up and say that he was wrong, he just doubled down. I'd never want to listen to anything else he has to say after that.
I hope Karl drops a 50 banger on his head tonight
You're right i dont have a problem with the old heads doing it. I find Teague's stories hilarious. Though ngl, I just see the clips here and there. I've never listened to his whole pod.
There is something about brunsons and jHarts pod that really bugs me. Like I don't think they're locked in enough which is silly of me to think. Or maybe its i want to root for em and worried access might make me not like em. Fck idk. Either way I never listened to it and refuse to watch clips of it.
All this to sound like a damn, "shut up and dribble" guy. I'm the worst
Jalen Bluntson wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:This team is soft. They'll let Draymond and Butler talk sh*t to them all day and all night.
They'd better not be.
This isn't just some throwaway game. Green disrespected Karl. The whole squad should be looking to bury GS tonight Brunson be damned.
This is where a night where PJ Tucker needs to get some minutes.
They need to focus on how to beat them. Draymond comments are inconsequential. This could be a huge win as far as keeping the 3 seed goes. The schedule for 3/4/5 seeds right now gives us an opportunity to get a little separation this week.
This is a different era. These guys don't have beefs as often or intense as it used to be. I would love to see them retaliate in some way but, getting the win is the best way to do that.
prophet_of_rage wrote:But they didn't and Green is bigger and crazier. Flint water be the colour of cognac, people and that's what they drink on the regular.MrDollarBills wrote:G_K_F wrote:What?
Draymond Green is one of the 'toughest' players in a soft era.
He wouldn't and couldn't pull those antics in the 80's or 90's, He would have his head kicked in.
I cannot fathom any of Draymond's sh*t flying in the 80s/90s. Dudes used to want to kill Dennis Rodman, and I think Draymond is actually 100x worse.
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NiceLikeChrist wrote:The warriors really aren’t all that good but Kerr is a better coach than thibs so it’s 50/50 win or lose this one
Clyde_Style wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
It's primarily a coaching issue even if an adjusted JB is still a shoot first guard.
There were several games in a row this season when the team clicked offensively while Brunson was racking up double digit assists which he does not typically do as a guy who averages 6-7 assists.
It was in those games he displayed some excellent dimes we had not seen that much from before and it gave me hope this was his evolutionary step as a playmaker. But it was followed by a hot streak and big scoring games and because Thibs just defaults to a guy like Brunson to initiate the action we switched back to playing primarily off Brunson instead of each other.
Point is Brunson can adapt, but not without leadership, because Brunson is not a legendary decision maker. He's just an amazing one on one player and as clutch a SOB as you could ever hope for.
You do not win championships just running ISO plays, but you do need guys who can make their own points for you when needed. Brunson is a great offensive player. He needs a better coach to guide him to become a more well-rounded point guard.
The dude is #8 in the entire league in assists (7.4), while running a freelance offense. It's what he is being asked to do. Not because he is limited as a PG. It's what Thibs wants from his PG. Dude drops 30-40 with 7-10 assists and people say he's a selfish player. Imagine if there was some structure to the offense and he was setting people up where they are most efficient/effective getting their shots. His assists would probably go up.
Every player has flaws. His happens to be his height. He makes the most of it though. Weak defender and struggles seeing over the defense as a result. He still can't be stopped most nights and still gets plenty of assists most nights. The best Knicks PG since Clyde hands down. One of the best PGs in the league. The slander will not be tolerated!!!
Right, we should be happy to have Brunson, who would be even better with a better coach.
As far as other folks who are slandering Brunson I'm not sure whom you're referring toSpoiler: