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GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST

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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#661 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:30 am

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Where did I say nothing having KAT was the reason we gave up 22 3's? Not having KAT is the reason we didn't crack 100 points though, If he plays prob hits some of the 3's we missed with The globe trotters coming down and directly
Hitting a 3 off our missed 3. Team really needs KAT and needs Mitch down the stretch nd should hit its stride at the rite time but the games are very annoying rite now


you legit asked a question is it thibs fault Minn shot 57% from 3...and I'm legit telling you it is!



I call bs on Thibs telling guys to sag off every 3 point
Shooter, granted Naz Miller didn't miss and took them 5-6 feet behind the line


Lmaoo what? You’re serious? This is his scheme, we do this year after year, wtf lmaooo :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#662 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:40 am

4th Quarter AGAIN. Thibs will never learn.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#663 » by LFGK » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:56 am

Learn what? They didn't even play heavy minutes. Guys were just hitting every single 3
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#664 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:50 am

LFGK wrote:Learn what? They didn't even play heavy minutes. Guys were just hitting every single 3

Only a thibs team will see 3 starters at 38 mins and one at 35 and think they had a rest day
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#665 » by LFGK » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:45 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:
LFGK wrote:Learn what? They didn't even play heavy minutes. Guys were just hitting every single 3

Only a thibs team will see 3 starters at 38 mins and one at 35 and think they had a rest day



What did the wolves do? They had 4 starters at 34+ minutes, is this what we're complaining about? 2-3 minutes? B*tchboy league man
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#666 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:48 am

LFGK wrote:
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LFGK wrote:Learn what? They didn't even play heavy minutes. Guys were just hitting every single 3

Only a thibs team will see 3 starters at 38 mins and one at 35 and think they had a rest day



What did the wolves do? They had 4 starters at 34+ minutes, is this what we're complaining about? 2-3 minutes? B*tchboy league man


If only we were comparing this one game and this one game only.

You’re sounding like thibs and ignoring the impact and strain this minutes distribution has when you maintain it for half a season.

How many times do our guys have to fizzle out in the 4th?
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#667 » by TKKnicks1 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:54 pm

FO got a pretty $hitty dilemma. They fire Thibs and they have no one to promote in the interim. Anyone who thinks Rick Brunson can coach anything but his own son is kidding themselves. Not many teams will bring in a fresh new outside coach mid season unless it's one that has a proven track record. Unfortunately, we stuck with elite talent and mediocre coaching for the rest of this season.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#668 » by TKKnicks1 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:04 pm

And oh ya if we had kept J Bryant we wouldn't be in this $hitty dilemma.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#669 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:15 pm

We have the 5th best record in the league and people want Johnny Bryant over Thibs. :lol: :lol:

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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#670 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:22 pm

LFGK wrote:Learn what? They didn't even play heavy minutes. Guys were just hitting every single 3


Because the defense defined by Thibs is predicated on packing the paint in drop rather than guard the perimeter
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#671 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:24 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:We have the 5th best record in the league and people want Johnny Bryant over Thibs. :lol: :lol:

God I wish I could send you all back to the Fizdale era and leave you there forever.


We have not beaten a single top 4 team
Our expectation is to be one of the contenders, not beat up on the lower scrub teams. We are a clear tier below the top teams, when we should be one of the top two teams in the east. Our expectations have risen.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#672 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:30 pm

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FrozenEnvelope wrote:We have the 5th best record in the league and people want Johnny Bryant over Thibs. :lol: :lol:

God I wish I could send you all back to the Fizdale era and leave you there forever.


We have not beaten a single top 4 team
Our expectation is to be one of the contenders, not beat up on the lower scrub teams. We are a clear tier below the top teams, when we should be one of the top two teams in the east. Our expectations have risen.


I get it but it takes time. It's year one with this roster and core and we've only played half a season. The season opener against Boston was not even a real game and shouldn't be taken seriously. The game against Cleveland was also super early in the season and it was a tied game with 5 mins left. We were up 14 against OKC in the first game. I know we are 0-4 against those teams ahead of us but we've shown we can compete and we still have time to see where we stand.

The situation is not as bleak as some of you make it out to be and Thibs is not getting fired any time soon. :lol:
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#673 » by TKKnicks1 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:32 pm

Here is the epitome of Thibs defensive scheme. Any player that even gets an inch close to the middle of the floor means the defense must collapse cuz God forbid the opposition scores in the sacred all mighty paint. In this particular play not only are we stupid to double Randle who looked at the rim all but 2 times the entire night but there was so much miscommunication between Hart, JB, OG and Precious that they left two players pretty much wide open on the perimeter cuz of their over help on defense.

Read on Twitter
?t=2k78pBT4Gykoz_zVJL4NsA&s=19

Here's another example. Look how far off they sag from the perimeter just cuz Randle is inching towards the paint. This isn't the players fault! This is what they are coached to do!

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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#674 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:36 pm

Do some of you really think if we fired Thibs and replaced him with let's say Johnny Bryant or Mark Jackson or maybe Adrian Griffin and they expanded the bench to 10 players that included Pacome, Kolek and Hukporti playing 12-15 mpg that we'd be a lot better then 27-15 and 3rd in the East? :-?
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#675 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:36 pm

Sometimes you can’t even call them Thibs supporters anymore. I think once you cross the line to nonsensical and irrational arguments, you officially become a Thibs Slurper.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#676 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:39 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:Here is the epitome of Thibs defensive scheme. Any player that even gets an inch close to the middle of the floor means the defense must collapse cuz God forbid the opposition scores in the sacred all mighty paint. In this particular play not only are we stupid to double Randle who looked at the rim all but 2 times the entire night but there was so much miscommunication between Hart, JB, OG and Precious that they left two players pretty much wide open on the perimeter cuz of their over help on defense.

Read on Twitter
?t=2k78pBT4Gykoz_zVJL4NsA&s=19

Here's another example. Look how far off they sag from the perimeter just cuz Randle is inching towards the paint. This isn't the players fault! This is what they are coached to do!

Read on Twitter
?t=CoX8cnLl-hLlqXbb6dSyGw&s=19


Scheme and execution def need tinkering and improvement. The only good thing I can see from this scheme is that it limits the attempts. I think teams are averaging in the bottom ten in 3pt attempts against us which is good but the percentage def needs to get down.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#677 » by TKKnicks1 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:46 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Do some of you really think if we fired Thibs and replaced him with let's say Johnny Bryant or Mark Jackson or maybe Adrian Griffin and they expanded the bench to 10 players that included Pacome, Kolek and Hukporti playing 12-15 mpg that we'd be a lot better then 27-15 and 3rd in the East? :-?


The fact remains we got to 3rd place by having one of the easier schedules to open the season. Despite having the easier schedule Thibs has already ran the team into the ground by pretty much playing 7 deep so far this season. All of our starters are tired and in the upper echelon in MPG. The writing on the wall tells us the losses are going to come fast and steady now that we have the toughest schedule the rest of the way.

We want a coach that will distribute the minutes better and have a sense of in game strategy so come playoff time we aren't dropping like flies similar to last season. Thibs historically puts all his chips in during the regular season and never saves anything for the post season. Majority of us are sick and tired of it.
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#678 » by spree8 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:52 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:FO got a pretty $hitty dilemma. They fire Thibs and they have no one to promote in the interim. Anyone who thinks Rick Brunson can coach anything but his own son is kidding themselves. Not many teams will bring in a fresh new outside coach mid season unless it's one that has a proven track record. Unfortunately, we stuck with elite talent and mediocre coaching for the rest of this season.



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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#679 » by The KnicksFix » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:52 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:We have the 5th best record in the league and people want Johnny Bryant over Thibs. :lol: :lol:

God I wish I could send you all back to the Fizdale era and leave you there forever.


We have not beaten a single top 4 team
Our expectation is to be one of the contenders, not beat up on the lower scrub teams. We are a clear tier below the top teams, when we should be one of the top two teams in the east. Our expectations have risen.


I get it but it takes time. It's year one with this roster and core and we've only played half a season. The season opener against Boston was not even a real game and shouldn't be taken seriously. The game against Cleveland was also super early in the season and it was a tied game with 5 mins left. We were up 14 against OKC in the first game. I know we are 0-4 against those teams ahead of us but we've shown we can compete and we still have time to see where we stand.

The situation is not as bleak as some of you make it out to be and Thibs is not getting fired any time soon. :lol:


True but it’s halfway thru the season.
We shouldn’t have lost the game against the pistons if Thibs would have adjusted.
We shouldn’t have lost the two games against the hawks if Thibs would have adjusted.
We shouldn’t have lost the game against the rockets if Thibs would have adjusted.

These are alarming trends. If you figure this is a 3 year window, we are already 16.5% the way thru. At the end of the year it will be 33%

It’s not about losing the big games, it’s the fact that we beat up on the lower teams (and even that we are starting to lose a grip on)
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Re: GT: Knicks vs T-Wolves 1/17/25 7:30PM EST 

Post#680 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:21 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:FO got a pretty $hitty dilemma. They fire Thibs and they have no one to promote in the interim. Anyone who thinks Rick Brunson can coach anything but his own son is kidding themselves. Not many teams will bring in a fresh new outside coach mid season unless it's one that has a proven track record. Unfortunately, we stuck with elite talent and mediocre coaching for the rest of this season.


Absolute NO to Rick Brunson. Doesn't have to be him though. If it is one of the assistants, then maybe Mark Bryant whom we know as the big man coach. Mo Cheeks has the background.You'd be replacing Thibs with a guy the same age, but he should have the ability to do it for half a season. There's Dice whom may only be a Thibs clone at this point. Andy Greer used to run Minny's defense. Daniel Brady is still relatively inexperienced and Erman got fired by GS for being shady so don't know about those two.

Bryant or Cheeks probably.

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